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Posted to dev@bloodhound.apache.org by Hans Polak <hp...@polak.es> on 2015/08/05 10:07:11 UTC

Fwd: Re: KEYS


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: KEYS
Date: 	Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:47:17 -0700
From: 	Ryan J Ollos <rj...@apache.org>
To: 	Hans Polak <hp...@polak.es>
CC: 	Gary Martin <Ga...@wandisco.com>



On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Hans Polak <hpolak@polak.es 
<ma...@polak.es>> wrote:


    Hi!

    I've downloaded the Bloodhound 0.8 tar file and, for the very first
    time, I've tried to verify a file. I'd like to briefly tell you the
    problems I've encountered.

    On the http://bloodhound.apache.org/ page, there's a link to the tar
    file
    http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/bloodhound/apache-bloodhound-0.8.tar.gz

    1. This page contains information about the download and about the
    verification.... but it doesn't contain links to the asc files, nor
    the keys file.
    2. I found the asc file here: http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/bloodhound/
    3. I found the keys file here:
    https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/bloodhound/KEYS

    I'd like to suggest that the verification section include links to
    these files.

    Yours sincerely,
    Hans Polak


Hi Hans,

Thank you for the email. I'm not very involved in the Bloodhound project 
these days. Could you please forward your email to the users@ mailing list?
https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/wiki/BloodhoundContactInfo

Thanks,
- Ryan




Re: Fwd: Re: KEYS

Posted by Gary <ga...@physics.org>.
Hi everyone,

Sorry to take so long over this but if a jobs is worth doing, it may as 
well be done well.

It seems that we may be missing a trick with providing our own project 
specific download page that makes use of a script to set the download 
location to one of the mirrors and also allow selection of alternative 
mirrors.

This would allow us to put links for the other necessary artefacts on 
such a page and make it easier for users to verify the release. I have 
therefore been working on a download page that I expect to commit a bit 
later this evening. I am not sure I have the best setup to verify that 
the mirror selection scripts and download link substitution will work 
until they are served live though. I'll avoid updating links on the main 
page until we are happy that it is likely to work.

Cheers,
     Gary

On 05/08/15 13:14, Gary wrote:
> Excellent, I guess you have done some of that work for me then!
>
> It may still be considered an oversight on our part though. I need to 
> check further but a lot of projects I have checked have a 
> downloads.cgi or similar page. At worst we should be able to copy that 
> approach as these seem duty bound to show the KEYS file and list asc 
> files for each release.
>
> I'll see what I can do about that a bit later today.
>
> Cheers,
>     Gary
>
>
> On 05/08/15 12:35, Hans Polak wrote:
>> When I was investigating this, I noticed this was a generic template. 
>> So, yes, I think this would benefit other ASF projects as well.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On 08/05/2015 01:26 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> On 05/08/15 09:07, Hans Polak wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject:     Re: KEYS
>>>> Date:     Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:47:17 -0700
>>>> From:     Ryan J Ollos <rj...@apache.org>
>>>> To:     Hans Polak <hp...@polak.es>
>>>> CC:     Gary Martin <Ga...@wandisco.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Hans Polak <hpolak@polak.es 
>>>> <ma...@polak.es>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Hi!
>>>>
>>>>    I've downloaded the Bloodhound 0.8 tar file and, for the very first
>>>>    time, I've tried to verify a file. I'd like to briefly tell you the
>>>>    problems I've encountered.
>>>>
>>>>    On the http://bloodhound.apache.org/ page, there's a link to the 
>>>> tar
>>>>    file
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/bloodhound/apache-bloodhound-0.8.tar.gz 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. This page contains information about the download and about the
>>>>    verification.... but it doesn't contain links to the asc files, nor
>>>>    the keys file.
>>>>    2. I found the asc file here: 
>>>> http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/bloodhound/
>>>>    3. I found the keys file here:
>>>>    https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/bloodhound/KEYS
>>>>
>>>>    I'd like to suggest that the verification section include links to
>>>>    these files.
>>>>
>>>>    Yours sincerely,
>>>>    Hans Polak
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the email. I'm not very involved in the Bloodhound 
>>>> project these days. Could you please forward your email to the 
>>>> users@ mailing list?
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/wiki/BloodhoundContactInfo
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> - Ryan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the suggestion. If I correctly interpret the page you 
>>> mean, it is possible that we can't directly control the display of 
>>> the download page. Of course, if that is the case, your suggestion 
>>> might well benefit all ASF projects which could be a very nice result!
>>>
>>> We should try to confirm that we are not doing anything different to 
>>> other ASF projects in this area. I think it is also worth our while 
>>> considering work-arounds as we should encourage users to verify the 
>>> download.
>>>
>>> Many thanks again.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>     Gary
>>
>


Re: Fwd: Re: KEYS

Posted by Gary <ga...@physics.org>.
Excellent, I guess you have done some of that work for me then!

It may still be considered an oversight on our part though. I need to 
check further but a lot of projects I have checked have a downloads.cgi 
or similar page. At worst we should be able to copy that approach as 
these seem duty bound to show the KEYS file and list asc files for each 
release.

I'll see what I can do about that a bit later today.

Cheers,
     Gary


On 05/08/15 12:35, Hans Polak wrote:
> When I was investigating this, I noticed this was a generic template. 
> So, yes, I think this would benefit other ASF projects as well.
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
> On 08/05/2015 01:26 PM, Gary wrote:
>> On 05/08/15 09:07, Hans Polak wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject:     Re: KEYS
>>> Date:     Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:47:17 -0700
>>> From:     Ryan J Ollos <rj...@apache.org>
>>> To:     Hans Polak <hp...@polak.es>
>>> CC:     Gary Martin <Ga...@wandisco.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Hans Polak <hpolak@polak.es 
>>> <ma...@polak.es>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>    Hi!
>>>
>>>    I've downloaded the Bloodhound 0.8 tar file and, for the very first
>>>    time, I've tried to verify a file. I'd like to briefly tell you the
>>>    problems I've encountered.
>>>
>>>    On the http://bloodhound.apache.org/ page, there's a link to the tar
>>>    file
>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/bloodhound/apache-bloodhound-0.8.tar.gz 
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. This page contains information about the download and about the
>>>    verification.... but it doesn't contain links to the asc files, nor
>>>    the keys file.
>>>    2. I found the asc file here: 
>>> http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/bloodhound/
>>>    3. I found the keys file here:
>>>    https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/bloodhound/KEYS
>>>
>>>    I'd like to suggest that the verification section include links to
>>>    these files.
>>>
>>>    Yours sincerely,
>>>    Hans Polak
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the email. I'm not very involved in the Bloodhound 
>>> project these days. Could you please forward your email to the 
>>> users@ mailing list?
>>> https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/wiki/BloodhoundContactInfo
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> - Ryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Thank you for the suggestion. If I correctly interpret the page you 
>> mean, it is possible that we can't directly control the display of 
>> the download page. Of course, if that is the case, your suggestion 
>> might well benefit all ASF projects which could be a very nice result!
>>
>> We should try to confirm that we are not doing anything different to 
>> other ASF projects in this area. I think it is also worth our while 
>> considering work-arounds as we should encourage users to verify the 
>> download.
>>
>> Many thanks again.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>     Gary
>


Re: Fwd: Re: KEYS

Posted by Hans Polak <hp...@polak.es>.
When I was investigating this, I noticed this was a generic template. 
So, yes, I think this would benefit other ASF projects as well.

Cheers,
Hans

On 08/05/2015 01:26 PM, Gary wrote:
> On 05/08/15 09:07, Hans Polak wrote:
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject:     Re: KEYS
>> Date:     Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:47:17 -0700
>> From:     Ryan J Ollos <rj...@apache.org>
>> To:     Hans Polak <hp...@polak.es>
>> CC:     Gary Martin <Ga...@wandisco.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Hans Polak <hpolak@polak.es 
>> <ma...@polak.es>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>    Hi!
>>
>>    I've downloaded the Bloodhound 0.8 tar file and, for the very first
>>    time, I've tried to verify a file. I'd like to briefly tell you the
>>    problems I've encountered.
>>
>>    On the http://bloodhound.apache.org/ page, there's a link to the tar
>>    file
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/bloodhound/apache-bloodhound-0.8.tar.gz 
>>
>>
>>    1. This page contains information about the download and about the
>>    verification.... but it doesn't contain links to the asc files, nor
>>    the keys file.
>>    2. I found the asc file here: 
>> http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/bloodhound/
>>    3. I found the keys file here:
>>    https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/bloodhound/KEYS
>>
>>    I'd like to suggest that the verification section include links to
>>    these files.
>>
>>    Yours sincerely,
>>    Hans Polak
>>
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> Thank you for the email. I'm not very involved in the Bloodhound 
>> project these days. Could you please forward your email to the users@ 
>> mailing list?
>> https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/wiki/BloodhoundContactInfo
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Ryan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thank you for the suggestion. If I correctly interpret the page you 
> mean, it is possible that we can't directly control the display of the 
> download page. Of course, if that is the case, your suggestion might 
> well benefit all ASF projects which could be a very nice result!
>
> We should try to confirm that we are not doing anything different to 
> other ASF projects in this area. I think it is also worth our while 
> considering work-arounds as we should encourage users to verify the 
> download.
>
> Many thanks again.
>
> Cheers,
>     Gary


Re: Fwd: Re: KEYS

Posted by Gary <ga...@physics.org>.
On 05/08/15 09:07, Hans Polak wrote:
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:     Re: KEYS
> Date:     Tue, 4 Aug 2015 11:47:17 -0700
> From:     Ryan J Ollos <rj...@apache.org>
> To:     Hans Polak <hp...@polak.es>
> CC:     Gary Martin <Ga...@wandisco.com>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:20 AM, Hans Polak <hpolak@polak.es 
> <ma...@polak.es>> wrote:
>
>
>    Hi!
>
>    I've downloaded the Bloodhound 0.8 tar file and, for the very first
>    time, I've tried to verify a file. I'd like to briefly tell you the
>    problems I've encountered.
>
>    On the http://bloodhound.apache.org/ page, there's a link to the tar
>    file
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/bloodhound/apache-bloodhound-0.8.tar.gz
>
>    1. This page contains information about the download and about the
>    verification.... but it doesn't contain links to the asc files, nor
>    the keys file.
>    2. I found the asc file here: 
> http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/bloodhound/
>    3. I found the keys file here:
>    https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/bloodhound/KEYS
>
>    I'd like to suggest that the verification section include links to
>    these files.
>
>    Yours sincerely,
>    Hans Polak
>
>
> Hi Hans,
>
> Thank you for the email. I'm not very involved in the Bloodhound 
> project these days. Could you please forward your email to the users@ 
> mailing list?
> https://issues.apache.org/bloodhound/wiki/BloodhoundContactInfo
>
> Thanks,
> - Ryan
>
>
>
>

Hi Hans,

Thank you for the suggestion. If I correctly interpret the page you 
mean, it is possible that we can't directly control the display of the 
download page. Of course, if that is the case, your suggestion might 
well benefit all ASF projects which could be a very nice result!

We should try to confirm that we are not doing anything different to 
other ASF projects in this area. I think it is also worth our while 
considering work-arounds as we should encourage users to verify the 
download.

Many thanks again.

Cheers,
     Gary