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Posted to users@groovy.apache.org by Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com> on 2016/01/08 00:01:30 UTC

17th in the TIOBE programming language index

Hi all again,

The latest edition of the TIOBE programming language index puts Apache
Groovy in its top-20, ranked 17th!

http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

Now, take it with a pinch of salt:
I usually don't read too much in such rankings, as they are more about buzz
than actual usage, without mentioning that the results are always
fluctuating a lot for languages > 10th, so I don't think it's really
reliable anyway...
That said, it's always nice to see a good ranking :-)

Cheers,

--
Guillaume Laforge
Apache Groovy committer & PMC Chair
Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet <http://restlet.com>

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Re: 17th in the TIOBE programming language index

Posted by Keith Suderman <su...@anc.org>.
It is great that Groovy is in the top 20 (and Java is #1), but I have to question their methodology and numbers as well.  For instance Pascal is at #16.  Really?  Pascal?  Number 16?  Is there a huge Pascal development community somewhere that I don’t know about? Similarly, Delphi/Object Pascal is at number 12!  The future for Pascal programmers looks bright indeed ;-)

Keith

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 3:56 AM, Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You're of course totally right!
> 
> It's just that following the index in the past, I noticed the big
> fluctuations from month to month, which are just not plausible in real
> life. A language wouldn't jump up'n down in popularity that much (nor
> in terms of actual usage).
> 
> Also, statistically speaking, seeing a ranking with percentages with
> some many figures after the comma, for just one small percent, makes
> me think that it's not relevant, accurate, or realistic for
> comparisons.
> 
> But that's nice to be in the top-20 nonetheless ;-)
> 
> Guillaume
> 
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> While I agree that position in rankings can be argued, it does have it
>> effect on potential adopters. A high position tells the potential adopter
>> something, and it is commonly known that there are more followers than
>> leaders.
>> 
>> So congratulations on this achievement by the community.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Pierre Smits
>> 
>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
>> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Guillaume Laforge
> Apache Groovy committer & PMC member
> Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet
> 
> Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
> Social: @glaforge / Google+



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Department of Computer Science
Vassar College
Poughkeepsie, NY



Re: 17th in the TIOBE programming language index

Posted by Guillaume Laforge <gl...@gmail.com>.
You're of course totally right!

It's just that following the index in the past, I noticed the big
fluctuations from month to month, which are just not plausible in real
life. A language wouldn't jump up'n down in popularity that much (nor
in terms of actual usage).

Also, statistically speaking, seeing a ranking with percentages with
some many figures after the comma, for just one small percent, makes
me think that it's not relevant, accurate, or realistic for
comparisons.

But that's nice to be in the top-20 nonetheless ;-)

Guillaume

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:57 AM, Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> While I agree that position in rankings can be argued, it does have it
> effect on potential adopters. A high position tells the potential adopter
> something, and it is commonly known that there are more followers than
> leaders.
>
> So congratulations on this achievement by the community.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>



-- 
Guillaume Laforge
Apache Groovy committer & PMC member
Product Ninja & Advocate at Restlet

Blog: http://glaforge.appspot.com/
Social: @glaforge / Google+

Re: 17th in the TIOBE programming language index

Posted by Pierre Smits <pi...@gmail.com>.
While I agree that position in rankings can be argued, it does have it
effect on potential adopters. A high position tells the potential adopter
something, and it is commonly known that there are more followers than
leaders.

So congratulations on this achievement by the community.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/