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[mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Hi,
Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I wanted
to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same time, it
is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to prepare all
CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning dependencies and
license headers).
So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where the
preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would add
some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation, didn't
go through the IP Clearance yet."
2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it can be
under Incubator?
3. do (finish) the cleanup
4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
5. merge CND into the mainline
Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND handled?
Thanks,
Jan
Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
+1 for just using an integration branch...
-Sven
Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> schrieb am Mi., 13. Mai 2020, 07:33:
> Or maybe a branch of our mainline?
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos could be
> > used.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I
> >> wanted
> >> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
> >>
> >> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same time,
> it
> >> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to prepare
> all
> >> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning dependencies
> and
> >> license headers).
> >>
> >> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
> >> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
> >> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where the
> >> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would add
> >> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation,
> >> didn't
> >> go through the IP Clearance yet."
> >> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it can
> >> be
> >> under Incubator?
> >> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
> >> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
> >> 5. merge CND into the mainline
> >>
> >> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND
> >> handled?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Jan
> >>
> >
>
Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
That would be good then.
On 5/13/20 12:34 AM, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> I'd jumpstart the branch with:
> https://github.com/jlahoda/netbeans/commits/cnd-building
>
> The first commit specific to that branch is the unmodified code from
> donation 4 and 5.
>
> Jan
>
>
> 13. května 2020 8:24:29 SELČ, Laszlo Kishalmi
> <la...@gmail.com> napsal:
>
> Maybe two branches in the netbeans repo?
>
> one orphaned branch just to put the donated code in it's form as it was
> donated, then it could be merged into an integration branch which is
> branched from the master.
>
>
> On 5/12/20 11:00 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
> I don’t see why that wouldn’t be OK. Gj On Wed, 13 May 2020 at
> 07:58, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If a branch in the main repository is OK for the IP
> Clearance process, then that is obviously the easiest
> solution. Jan 13. května 2020 7:33:20 SELČ, Geertjan
> Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> napsal:
>
> Or maybe a branch of our mainline? Gj On Wed, 13 May
> 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several
> existing repos could be used. Gj On Wed, 13 May
> 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>
> wrote: Hi,
>
> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning
> up the C/C++ code, so I wanted to check what
> is the best/correct way to proceed. Obviously,
> this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At
> the same time, it is IMO not realistic to
> expect a single person will be able to prepare
> all CND for IP Clearance in one step (that
> includes cleaning dependencies and license
> headers). So, I wonder if the following
> process would fit: 1. have a vote here, about
> accepting the donation 2. have a development
> repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where
> the preparation for IP Clearance would take
> place. Presumably, we would add some warnings
> into to the README, like "Unfinished work on
> donation, didn't go through the IP Clearance
> yet." 2a. if it is not possible to have it
> under Apache NetBeans, maybe it can be under
> Incubator? 3. do (finish) the cleanup 4. have
> the IP Clearance vote on Incubator 5. merge
> CND into the mainline Any comments on this?
> How should be large-scale donations like CND
> handled? Thanks, Jan
>
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Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
I'd jumpstart the branch with:
https://github.com/jlahoda/netbeans/commits/cnd-building
The first commit specific to that branch is the unmodified code from donation 4 and 5.
Jan
13. května 2020 8:24:29 SELČ, Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com> napsal:
>Maybe two branches in the netbeans repo?
>
>one orphaned branch just to put the donated code in it's form as it was
>
>donated, then it could be merged into an integration branch which is
>branched from the master.
>
>
>On 5/12/20 11:00 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>> I don’t see why that wouldn’t be OK.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:58, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If a branch in the main repository is OK for the IP Clearance
>process,
>>> then that is obviously the easiest solution.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>> 13. května 2020 7:33:20 SELČ, Geertjan Wielenga
><ge...@apache.org>
>>> napsal:
>>>
>>>> Or maybe a branch of our mainline?
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga
><ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos
>could be
>>>>> used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gj
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code,
>so I
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the
>same time, it
>>>>>> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to
>prepare all
>>>>>> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning
>dependencies and
>>>>>> license headers).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
>>>>>> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
>>>>>> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd,
>where the
>>>>>> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we
>would add
>>>>>> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on
>donation,
>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>> go through the IP Clearance yet."
>>>>>> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans,
>maybe it can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> under Incubator?
>>>>>> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
>>>>>> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
>>>>>> 5. merge CND into the mainline
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like
>CND
>>>>>> handled?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Laszlo Kishalmi <la...@gmail.com>.
Maybe two branches in the netbeans repo?
one orphaned branch just to put the donated code in it's form as it was
donated, then it could be merged into an integration branch which is
branched from the master.
On 5/12/20 11:00 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> I don’t see why that wouldn’t be OK.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:58, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If a branch in the main repository is OK for the IP Clearance process,
>> then that is obviously the easiest solution.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>> 13. května 2020 7:33:20 SELČ, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>> napsal:
>>
>>> Or maybe a branch of our mainline?
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos could be
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I
>>>>> wanted
>>>>> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same time, it
>>>>> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to prepare all
>>>>> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning dependencies and
>>>>> license headers).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
>>>>> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
>>>>> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where the
>>>>> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would add
>>>>> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation,
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> go through the IP Clearance yet."
>>>>> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it can
>>>>> be
>>>>> under Incubator?
>>>>> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
>>>>> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
>>>>> 5. merge CND into the mainline
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND
>>>>> handled?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
I don’t see why that wouldn’t be OK.
Gj
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:58, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If a branch in the main repository is OK for the IP Clearance process,
> then that is obviously the easiest solution.
>
> Jan
>
> 13. května 2020 7:33:20 SELČ, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> napsal:
>
>> Or maybe a branch of our mainline?
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos could be
>>> used.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I
>>>> wanted
>>>> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same time, it
>>>> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to prepare all
>>>> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning dependencies and
>>>> license headers).
>>>>
>>>> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
>>>> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
>>>> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where the
>>>> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would add
>>>> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation,
>>>> didn't
>>>> go through the IP Clearance yet."
>>>> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it can
>>>> be
>>>> under Incubator?
>>>> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
>>>> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
>>>> 5. merge CND into the mainline
>>>>
>>>> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND
>>>> handled?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Brad Walker <bw...@musings.com>.
I've been actively "working" on the CND donation and Jan has done great
work getting things pulled together. The whole reason that I got involved
with Netbeans is to get ready for this day. 8-)
Having said that, I've asked him some questions directly. One of those is
how to get my "changes" checked in.
I believe this is the reason he mentioned this. So thanks.
You folks have far more experience than I do with Netbeans but my comment
is if there is a branch in the main repo where I can start to get things
cleared up that would be great. I'm really looking for the easiest solution
here and that sounds like it.
-brad w.
On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:58 PM Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If a branch in the main repository is OK for the IP Clearance process,
> then that is obviously the easiest solution.
>
> Jan
>
> 13. května 2020 7:33:20 SELČ, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> napsal:
> >Or maybe a branch of our mainline?
> >
> >Gj
> >
> >On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos could
> >be
> >> used.
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I
> >>> wanted
> >>> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
> >>>
> >>> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same
> >time, it
> >>> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to
> >prepare all
> >>> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning
> >dependencies and
> >>> license headers).
> >>>
> >>> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
> >>> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
> >>> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where
> >the
> >>> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would
> >add
> >>> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation,
> >>> didn't
> >>> go through the IP Clearance yet."
> >>> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it
> >can
> >>> be
> >>> under Incubator?
> >>> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
> >>> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
> >>> 5. merge CND into the mainline
> >>>
> >>> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND
> >>> handled?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Jan
> >>>
> >>
>
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Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
If a branch in the main repository is OK for the IP Clearance process, then that is obviously the easiest solution.
Jan
13. května 2020 7:33:20 SELČ, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> napsal:
>Or maybe a branch of our mainline?
>
>Gj
>
>On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos could
>be
>> used.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I
>>> wanted
>>> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
>>>
>>> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same
>time, it
>>> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to
>prepare all
>>> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning
>dependencies and
>>> license headers).
>>>
>>> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
>>> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
>>> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where
>the
>>> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would
>add
>>> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation,
>>> didn't
>>> go through the IP Clearance yet."
>>> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it
>can
>>> be
>>> under Incubator?
>>> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
>>> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
>>> 5. merge CND into the mainline
>>>
>>> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND
>>> handled?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jan
>>>
>>
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Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Or maybe a branch of our mainline?
Gj
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:32, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos could be
> used.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I
>> wanted
>> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
>>
>> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same time, it
>> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to prepare all
>> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning dependencies and
>> license headers).
>>
>> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
>> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
>> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where the
>> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would add
>> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation,
>> didn't
>> go through the IP Clearance yet."
>> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it can
>> be
>> under Incubator?
>> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
>> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
>> 5. merge CND into the mainline
>>
>> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND
>> handled?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jan
>>
>
Re: [mentors][cnd] Managing the CND donation
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Your plan sounds great. Maybe one of our several existing repos could be
used.
Gj
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 07:21, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Seems there may be some progress on cleaning up the C/C++ code, so I wanted
> to check what is the best/correct way to proceed.
>
> Obviously, this needs to go through the IP Clearance. At the same time, it
> is IMO not realistic to expect a single person will be able to prepare all
> CND for IP Clearance in one step (that includes cleaning dependencies and
> license headers).
>
> So, I wonder if the following process would fit:
> 1. have a vote here, about accepting the donation
> 2. have a development repository, like apache/netbeans.cnd, where the
> preparation for IP Clearance would take place. Presumably, we would add
> some warnings into to the README, like "Unfinished work on donation, didn't
> go through the IP Clearance yet."
> 2a. if it is not possible to have it under Apache NetBeans, maybe it can be
> under Incubator?
> 3. do (finish) the cleanup
> 4. have the IP Clearance vote on Incubator
> 5. merge CND into the mainline
>
> Any comments on this? How should be large-scale donations like CND handled?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>