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[graph] is the projec alive?
Commons developers,
There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
On the other side Maven depends on this.
So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
Thanks
Tomek
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by "J.Pietschmann" <j3...@yahoo.de>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
There's lots of stuff which is, ahem, fragile, in particular
the XML output stuff.
Well, it seems current XML supportis more for debugging purposes,
but adding some more serious support for reading and writing will
certainly be a worthwile addition. Instead of the homegrown format
a somewhat more widely used vocabulary would seem in order, however,
there are quite a few XML vocabularies for generic graphs out there,
but not really anything a standard blessed by some acknowledged
consortium nor a sort of "industry standard".
Some Candidates for discussion:
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~puninj/XGMML/
http://www.concept67.fsnet.co.uk/gsix/
http://www.gupro.de/GXL/
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~puninj/RGML/ (with some W3C blessing)
http://zvon.org/ZvonSW/ZvonGraphotron/index.html
A XML-ification of the GraphViz input would be also worth a look,
if anybody is interesting in graph layout.
Any takers for writing up a comprehensive review of these formats?
J.Pietschmann
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by "J.Pietschmann" <j3...@yahoo.de>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
There's lots of stuff which is, ahem, fragile, in particular
the XML output stuff.
Well, it seems current XML supportis more for debugging purposes,
but adding some more serious support for reading and writing will
certainly be a worthwile addition. Instead of the homegrown format
a somewhat more widely used vocabulary would seem in order, however,
there are quite a few XML vocabularies for generic graphs out there,
but not really anything a standard blessed by some acknowledged
consortium nor a sort of "industry standard".
Some Candidates for discussion:
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~puninj/XGMML/
http://www.concept67.fsnet.co.uk/gsix/
http://www.gupro.de/GXL/
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~puninj/RGML/ (with some W3C blessing)
http://zvon.org/ZvonSW/ZvonGraphotron/index.html
A XML-ification of the GraphViz input would be also worth a look,
if anybody is interesting in graph layout.
Any takers for writing up a comprehensive review of these formats?
J.Pietschmann
Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@maven.org>.
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 16:50, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> henri's right but there's one corollary i'd like to add: in order to gain
> promotion to the commons proper, graph needs an apache committer to
> champion it. maven seems like the best place to find one.
I was talking to David Dixon-Peugh and what might happen is we just pick
up the code and move it to codehaus.
> - robert
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> > People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
> > listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
> >
> > There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> > necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
> >
> > Hen
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
> >
> >> Commons developers,
> >>
> >> There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
> >> of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
> >> CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
> >> This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
> >> On the other side Maven depends on this.
> >> So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Tomek
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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jvz.
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jason@zenplex.com
http://tambora.zenplex.org
In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@maven.org>.
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 16:50, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> henri's right but there's one corollary i'd like to add: in order to gain
> promotion to the commons proper, graph needs an apache committer to
> champion it. maven seems like the best place to find one.
I was talking to David Dixon-Peugh and what might happen is we just pick
up the code and move it to codehaus.
> - robert
>
> On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
> > People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
> > listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
> >
> > There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> > necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
> >
> > Hen
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
> >
> >> Commons developers,
> >>
> >> There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
> >> of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
> >> CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
> >> This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
> >> On the other side Maven depends on this.
> >> So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Tomek
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
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jvz.
Jason van Zyl
jason@zenplex.com
http://tambora.zenplex.org
In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
-- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
henri's right but there's one corollary i'd like to add: in order to gain
promotion to the commons proper, graph needs an apache committer to
champion it. maven seems like the best place to find one.
- robert
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
> listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
>
> There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
>
> Hen
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
>
>> Commons developers,
>>
>> There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
>> of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
>> CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
>> This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
>> On the other side Maven depends on this.
>> So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tomek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
I hardly remember where Maven uses it to be honest.
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Blog: http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/
Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote on 17/09/2003 11:10:06 PM:
>
> People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
> listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
>
> There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be
considered.
>
> Hen
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
>
> > Commons developers,
> >
> > There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
> > of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
> > CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
> > This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
> > On the other side Maven depends on this.
> > So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tomek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
I hardly remember where Maven uses it to be honest.
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Blog: http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/dion/
Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote on 17/09/2003 11:10:06 PM:
>
> People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
> listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
>
> There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be
considered.
>
> Hen
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
>
> > Commons developers,
> >
> > There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
> > of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
> > CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
> > This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
> > On the other side Maven depends on this.
> > So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tomek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
henri's right but there's one corollary i'd like to add: in order to gain
promotion to the commons proper, graph needs an apache committer to
champion it. maven seems like the best place to find one.
- robert
On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
> listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
>
> There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
> necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
>
> Hen
>
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
>
>> Commons developers,
>>
>> There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
>> of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
>> CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
>> This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
>> On the other side Maven depends on this.
>> So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Tomek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>
>
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
Hen
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
> Commons developers,
>
> There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
> of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
> CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
> This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
> On the other side Maven depends on this.
> So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
>
> Thanks
> Tomek
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [graph] is the projec alive?
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
People to talk to look like jvanzyl, dion and mvdb. I think they all
listen here, but the Maven list might be better monitored.
There's no PROPOSAL.html or STATUS.html in there, so it's not got the
necessary requirements for a promotion to Commons proper to be considered.
Hen
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tomasz Pik wrote:
> Commons developers,
>
> There's a 'graph2' module in sandbox CVS containing implementation
> of 'graph' structure. I'd like to ask about status of this project.
> CVS looks like untouched for about a year.
> This package is not released (because it's in sandbox).
> On the other side Maven depends on this.
> So - are there any plans for promoting this to 'commons' and release?
>
> Thanks
> Tomek
>
>
>
>
>
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