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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by "Craig Russell (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org> on 2008/12/03 00:58:44 UTC
[jira] Commented: (LEGAL-40) XmlSchema project wants to check in
some annoyingly licensed test cases
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Craig Russell commented on LEGAL-40:
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It would seem that the BSD-like license might be freely used in the Apache svn repository. Unless I'm missing something like you want to prove conformance of the Apache project by using these test suites. To prove conformance, you would need the "annoyingly licensed" versions, but then you're in a different space.
So, the question for me is whether you want a conformant implementation? Or want a provably conformant implementation?
>From the link provided by Benson Margulies http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/2008/04-testsuite-copyright.html :
<<Summary of Use of the BSD Test Suite license for Software Development
Under the 3-clause BSD License, tests can be copied, altered, and integrated into software development tools, bugtracking tools, etc. This license allows developers, commercial vendors, and open source projects to copy tests and alter them as they wish to test and improve their software. However, if changes are made, the derivative work must not be distributed with W3C logos, unless W3C gives explicit permission.
Note: It is explicitly understood that clause 3 of the BSD license prohibits the assertion of performance claims with respect to W3C® Specifications by claiming successful passing of modified tests.>>
> XmlSchema project wants to check in some annoyingly licensed test cases
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>
> Key: LEGAL-40
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-40
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Benson Margulies
>
> The purpose the the XmlSchema component of the WSCOMMONS project is to produce a conformant implementation of Xml Schema. XML Schema is a W3C standard. There is a test suite for XML schema available from the W3C. The license on the test suite does not encourage/permit modifications.
> Currently, the build process for XML Schema dynamically downloads these materials. This is annoying but nonfatal. I would like, if possible, to just check them in where any contributor can check them back out so that the build process can use them without latency and / or connectivity requirements.
> I submit for consideration the idea that, as a read-only resource (a set of test cases that the XMLSchema code reads), the various restrictions on the license do not represent a problem in the way that incorporating source code, or data subject to change, might be.
> However, I'm no lawyer and a relative newcomer to ASF.
> Checking this into the PMC area really isn't an improvement over the current situation, since it doesn't (so far as I know) allow any way for non-PMC members to read the stuff. If I've misunderstood and the PMC area can be set up so that PMC members put things in and anyone can get them out, I apologize for misunderstanding.
> If this won't fly, I'll look for some way to package these items as a maven artifact uploaded to central and then that solves most of the problem.
> The entire contents of this directory and all its sub-directories are
> ***Copyright (C) World Wide Web Consortium 2006, 2007***
> They are made available under the terms of the
> W3C DOCUMENT NOTICE AND LICENSE,
> available online at
> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Legal/copyright-documents-19990405.html
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