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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com> on 2012/05/01 22:34:51 UTC
Webcam video during meeting
Hi all:
Is the webcam video in OM handled by using RTMP to make direct peer-to-peer
connections between users, rather than sending everything through the
server? Just checking on this since I understand that once the server side
authenticates the users and make the connections between them, Flash Player
handles the rest. And this expedites the transfer of the webcam data.
Thanks for your help.
Dan
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Whiteboard presentation screen sync with Presenter and Attendees
Posted by George Kirkham <gk...@co2crc.com.au>.
Hi,
Re: Whiteboard presentation screen sync of shared A4 document between Presenter and Attendees
1) When attendees log in they are unable to adjust their Whiteboard to fit the screen or to set to a particular zoom setting. For the Presenter/Moderator to give attendees the ability to adjust the Whiteboard zoom, the attendees are also given the ability two draw on the Whiteboard and to change slides, which is often not a great idea as attendees may change slides at the wrong time, or mess up the screen. Could there be another option that simply and only, allows the users to manage their Whiteboard view's zoom setting?
2) I would like the Moderator to have the ability adjust a zoom setting that will then apply to all the attendees PCs. I find that if all the attendees set they zoom to the same value then the Moderator can scroll the screen and all the attendees screens scroll in sync. Of course screens that have 1920x1080 see more information than those who have 1024x764, but the scrolling in sync works well. Especially if the Moderator has the lowest resolution screen of all the people in the meeting (e.g. if the Moderator sets their screen to 1024x768.
Please let me know if you like either of these ideas or if you see that there could be issues with either of these ideas.
Thanks,
George Kirkham
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
NAT traversal worked fine. Application should work under Linux or -
that's just a standard flash application.
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org> wrote:
> Alexei
>
>
> On 05/05/12 13:08, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
>>
>> 1) yes, I mean Windows firewall;
>> 2) there is a difference with popular applications; windows is not
>> aware it should ask user to allow communication, it just silently
>> blocks communication;
>>
>> Sergey, have you tried communicating with someone through dataved.ru?
>> If you succeed, do you still think it is easy?
>
>
> No, I did not. I will try if I have free time. But I do not use Win...
>
> IMO NAT may be a problem also in this case if you do not have fixed range of
> ports for forwarding.
>
>
>>
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>.
Alexei
On 05/05/12 13:08, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> 1) yes, I mean Windows firewall;
> 2) there is a difference with popular applications; windows is not
> aware it should ask user to allow communication, it just silently
> blocks communication;
>
> Sergey, have you tried communicating with someone through dataved.ru?
> If you succeed, do you still think it is easy?
No, I did not. I will try if I have free time. But I do not use Win...
IMO NAT may be a problem also in this case if you do not have fixed
range of ports for forwarding.
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
1) yes, I mean Windows firewall;
2) there is a difference with popular applications; windows is not
aware it should ask user to allow communication, it just silently
blocks communication;
Sergey, have you tried communicating with someone through dataved.ru?
If you succeed, do you still think it is easy?
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org> wrote:
> On 05/02/12 16:47, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
>>
>> Yes, we do - we have working P2P demo on dataved.ru
>> Not sure if it works, - it was useless waste of our money anyway :-(
>>
>> There is a reason behind flash P2P implementation which makes it
>> non-usable. It requires switching default firewall off which a
>> standard user cannot and should not do.
>
>
> Do you mean Windows firewall?
>
> If it is one main problem only, I think it worth to review it. Many users
> use p2p applications and this hould not be main issue IMO.
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thank you to everyone who responded regarding this issue. I think this
would be a useful upgrade to OpenMeetings at some point, since it would
improve the end user experience. I am not an engineer so I don't claim to
have an understanding of the mechanics of making this happen. While this is
not critical for my purposes, I would be happy to do what I can to make it
happen. So please let me know.
Best.
Dan
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>wrote:
> On 05/02/12 16:47, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
>
>> Yes, we do - we have working P2P demo on dataved.ru
>> Not sure if it works, - it was useless waste of our money anyway :-(
>>
>> There is a reason behind flash P2P implementation which makes it
>> non-usable. It requires switching default firewall off which a
>> standard user cannot and should not do.
>>
>
> Do you mean Windows firewall?
>
> If it is one main problem only, I think it worth to review it. Many users
> use p2p applications and this hould not be main issue IMO.
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by Sergey Kobzar <se...@itcraft.org>.
On 05/02/12 16:47, Alexei Fedotov wrote:
> Yes, we do - we have working P2P demo on dataved.ru
> Not sure if it works, - it was useless waste of our money anyway :-(
>
> There is a reason behind flash P2P implementation which makes it
> non-usable. It requires switching default firewall off which a
> standard user cannot and should not do.
Do you mean Windows firewall?
If it is one main problem only, I think it worth to review it. Many
users use p2p applications and this hould not be main issue IMO.
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Yes, we do - we have working P2P demo on dataved.ru
Not sure if it works, - it was useless waste of our money anyway :-(
There is a reason behind flash P2P implementation which makes it
non-usable. It requires switching default firewall off which a
standard user cannot and should not do.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com> wrote:
> Thanks Sebastian.
>
> I am sure you are all aware of the advantages of using P2P. Hopefully this
> will be possible in the near future.
>
> Best.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:00 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com
> <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Red5 acts as proxy server, all data is processed: client <=> server <=>
>> client
>>
>> There is no P2P live stream with Flash (to be discussed :))
>> My last information about P2P is: Only customers that are using "Adobe
>> Stratus" can use a protocol called RTMFP with that protocol P2P is possible
>> with Flash.
>>
>> If you want to discuss more about that topic I would suggest you try to
>> contact the Red5 developers.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> 2012/5/1 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>>>
>>> Hi all:
>>>
>>> Is the webcam video in OM handled by using RTMP to make direct
>>> peer-to-peer connections between users, rather than sending everything
>>> through the server? Just checking on this since I understand that once the
>>> server side authenticates the users and make the connections between them,
>>> Flash Player handles the rest. And this expedites the transfer of the webcam
>>> data.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> --
>>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>>> President
>>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>>
>>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>>> Office: 215.886.9188
>>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.openmeetings.de
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>.
Thanks Sebastian.
I am sure you are all aware of the advantages of using P2P. Hopefully this
will be possible in the near future.
Best.
Dan
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:00 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmail.com
> wrote:
> Red5 acts as proxy server, all data is processed: client <=> server <=>
> client
>
> There is no P2P live stream with Flash (to be discussed :))
> My last information about P2P is: Only customers that are using "Adobe
> Stratus" can use a protocol called RTMFP with that protocol P2P is possible
> with Flash.
>
> If you want to discuss more about that topic I would suggest you try to
> contact the Red5 developers.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2012/5/1 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Is the webcam video in OM handled by using RTMP to make direct
>> peer-to-peer connections between users, rather than sending everything
>> through the server? Just checking on this since I understand that once the
>> server side authenticates the users and make the connections between them,
>> Flash Player handles the rest. And this expedites the transfer of the
>> webcam data.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Dan
>> --
>> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
>> President
>> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
>> "Creating Bright Futures"
>>
>> 505 York Road, Suite 6
>> Jenkintown, PA 19046
>> Office: 215.886.9188
>> Direct: 267.242.9640
>> www.aplustutoring.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.openmeetings.de
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
President
A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
"Creating Bright Futures"
505 York Road, Suite 6
Jenkintown, PA 19046
Office: 215.886.9188
Direct: 267.242.9640
www.aplustutoring.com
Re: Webcam video during meeting
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Red5 acts as proxy server, all data is processed: client <=> server <=>
client
There is no P2P live stream with Flash (to be discussed :))
My last information about P2P is: Only customers that are using "Adobe
Stratus" can use a protocol called RTMFP with that protocol P2P is possible
with Flash.
If you want to discuss more about that topic I would suggest you try to
contact the Red5 developers.
Sebastian
2012/5/1 Daniel Ascher <da...@aplustutoring.com>
> Hi all:
>
> Is the webcam video in OM handled by using RTMP to make direct
> peer-to-peer connections between users, rather than sending everything
> through the server? Just checking on this since I understand that once the
> server side authenticates the users and make the connections between them,
> Flash Player handles the rest. And this expedites the transfer of the
> webcam data.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Dan
> --
> Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> President
> A+ Test Prep and Tutoring
> "Creating Bright Futures"
>
> 505 York Road, Suite 6
> Jenkintown, PA 19046
> Office: 215.886.9188
> Direct: 267.242.9640
> www.aplustutoring.com
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.openmeetings.de
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com