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Turbine Book
Is there any book in preparation for Turbine? I think
there is definetely a market for it. I know I'm part
of it, and even if I'm the only one I'm a very big
person :-)
Anyway, even a quick start with detailed information
on what to do in steps explaining the different
services and all would be great.
Just throwing ideas around...
Adrian
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RE: Turbine Book
Posted by Chris K Chew <ch...@fenetics.com>.
Well, Scott is working on setting up a documentation Wiki. The talk was to
develop of complete User's Guide. Once the documentation is complete, we
could relatively easily pull the wiki content and convert it into one of the
markup languages used for computer books. It seems easy enough to get a
computer book published nowadays given the size of the market, and perhaps
the proceeds could go towards a Turbine-Dev conference or to Apache-Jakarta
(I am completely ignorant of how the ASF handles monetary donations).
While most everything one needs to learn turbine is available online at the
website/archives, I feel there is something irreplaceable to a physical book
that you can take someplace away from a computer to read.
Chris
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Re: Turbine Book
Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 14:12, Adrian Madrid wrote:
> Is there any book in preparation for Turbine? I think
> there is definetely a market for it. I know I'm part
> of it, and even if I'm the only one I'm a very big
> person :-)
>
> Anyway, even a quick start with detailed information
> on what to do in steps explaining the different
> services and all would be great.
>
> Just throwing ideas around...
I just bought a small 900lb printing press. Who wants the first copy!
:-)
> Adrian
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Re: Turbine Book
Posted by Edwin Gustafson <ed...@caymanchem.com>.
Greetings,
Adrian Madrid wrote:
>Is there any book in preparation for Turbine?
>
>
That's a pretty interesting idea. I would love to see a book on Turbine.
My sense is that the software hasn't stabilized enough to support a
book. Considering that Turbine 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, and Plexus/Summit all get
bandwidth on the mailing lists, which version could a publisher target
with hands-on information?
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Re: Turbine Book (IBM Developer Works)
Posted by Adrian Madrid <ae...@yahoo.com>.
Thanks for all your comments. While mulling on this I
came up with an idea to get more publicity and
documentation at the same time. Why don't we ask the
Developer Works (IBM) site to do articles/tutorials on
the subject?
They have a form to submit ideas for new content
(http://www-105.ibm.com/developerworks/newcontent.nsf/myidea)
and if we can get enough requests I bet they will
start thinking seriously about it. I'm light years
away of being able to write something but I can ask
politely for it. And I believe dW have a great user
base that will greatly benefit from the framework and
maybe the only roadblock is knowing more about it.
What do you think? Should we start a rally for Turbine
content on dW? I already did...
My .02 cents,
Adrian
--- Alex McLintock <al...@OWAL.co.uk> wrote:
> ...
> Technically I feel more comfortable with Turbine,
> but we need to do a lot
> more publicity to tell people that you *don't* have
> to toe the Sun party line.
>
> Alex
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Re: Turbine Book
Posted by Alex McLintock <al...@OWAL.co.uk>.
Is there any book in preparation for Turbine? I think
>there is definetely a market for it. I know I'm part
>of it, and even if I'm the only one I'm a very big
>person :-)
I agree this is needed - I am seeing job ads for Apache Struts people in
the UK, but have never seen one for Turbine.
It is possible that the three or hour existing Struts books help make it
more popular - even if it is a worse technical solution than Turbine.
I am currently reviewing the O'Reilly Struts book, and have just heard that
Manning are publishing one too.
Technically I feel more comfortable with Turbine, but we need to do a lot
more publicity to tell people that you *don't* have to toe the Sun party line.
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AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
Posted by Miessbrandt Gunter <mi...@ixtern.de>.
Thanks!
Gunter M.
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Marc Lustig [mailto:mail@marclustig.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2002 10:51
> An: Turbine Users List
> Betreff: AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
>
>
>
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Miessbrandt Gunter [mailto:miessbrandt@ixtern.de]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2002 10:22
> > An: 'Turbine Users List'
> > Betreff: AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
> >
> >
> > Which publisher?
>
http://entwickler.com/itr/buecher/show.php3?id=41&nodeid=92&ps_lo=10
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AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
Posted by Marc Lustig <ma...@marclustig.com>.
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Miessbrandt Gunter [mailto:miessbrandt@ixtern.de]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2002 10:22
> An: 'Turbine Users List'
> Betreff: AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
>
>
> Which publisher?
http://entwickler.com/itr/buecher/show.php3?id=41&nodeid=92&ps_lo=10
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AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
Posted by Miessbrandt Gunter <mi...@ixtern.de>.
Which publisher?
Gunter M.
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Matt Koranda [mailto:matt@orkan.no]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. November 2002 10:09
> An: Turbine Users List
> Betreff: Re: Turbine Book [to be released]
>
>
> Sounds great! Any translations in the works?
>
> :) Matt Koranda
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Lustig" <ma...@marclustig.com>
> To: "Turbine Users List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:48 AM
> Subject: AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
>
>
> > It is true that the lack of a clear direction is a severe
> problem with
> > Turbine. However I think a book would be great that explains the
> > various components and architectural ideas behind Turbine
> and how to
> > build an app from that so that it fits the individual requirements.
> > There is a book in German scheduled to be released in
> december called
> > "Portale und Web-Applikationen mit Apache Frameworks". It
> covers the
> > following [Excerpt from the editor]:
> >
> > Verschiedene Frameworks der Apache Software Foundation bieten
> > Entwicklern von Web-Anwendungen ein au?erst nutzliches
> Gerust fur ihre
> > Projekte. Dabei basieren die Frameworks Turbine, Jetspeed,
> Cocoon auf
> > den Standards Java
> und
> > XML und lassen sich daher an beliebiger Stelle erweitern. Das Buch
> "Portale
> > und Web- Applikationen mit Apache Frameworks" bietet einen
> fundierten,
> > praxisnahen Uberblick uber Tomcat, Turbine, Jetspeed und Cocoon.
> > Au?erdem werden die Prinzipien der Web-Entwicklung anhand des
> > Model-View-Controller (MVC)-Paradigmas verstandlich
> erlautert. Einen
> > weiteren Schwerpunkt stellt die Entwicklung von Enterprise-Portalen
> > dar - hier werden die wichtigsten Grundbegriffe moderner Portal-
> > Konzepte dargestellt. Anhand der Frameworks Jetspeed und
> Cocoon wird
> > die Portal-Entwicklung im Detail beleuchtet und eine ausfuhrliche
> > Beispiel-Applikation (Portal-Anwendung mit
> elektronischen
> > Auktionen) auf Jetspeed-Basis liefert den unverzichtbaren
> Praxisbezug.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Marc
> >
> > > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Adrian Madrid [mailto:aemadrid@yahoo.com]
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2002 20:12
> > > An: Turbine Mailing List
> > > Betreff: Turbine Book
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there any book in preparation for Turbine? I think
> > > there is definetely a market for it. I know I'm part
> > > of it, and even if I'm the only one I'm a very big
> > > person :-)
> > >
> > > Anyway, even a quick start with detailed information
> > > on what to do in steps explaining the different
> > > services and all would be great.
> > >
> > > Just throwing ideas around...
> > >
> > > Adrian
> > >
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Re: Turbine Book [to be released]
Posted by Matt Koranda <ma...@orkan.no>.
Sounds great! Any translations in the works?
:) Matt Koranda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Lustig" <ma...@marclustig.com>
To: "Turbine Users List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 9:48 AM
Subject: AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
> It is true that the lack of a clear direction is a severe problem with
> Turbine. However I think a book would be great that explains the various
> components and architectural ideas behind Turbine and how to build an app
> from that so that it fits the individual requirements.
> There is a book in German scheduled to be released in december called
> "Portale und Web-Applikationen mit Apache Frameworks".
> It covers the following [Excerpt from the editor]:
>
> Verschiedene Frameworks der Apache Software Foundation bieten Entwicklern
> von Web-Anwendungen ein au?erst nutzliches Gerust fur ihre Projekte. Dabei
> basieren die Frameworks Turbine, Jetspeed, Cocoon auf den Standards Java
und
> XML und lassen sich daher an beliebiger Stelle erweitern. Das Buch
"Portale
> und Web- Applikationen mit Apache Frameworks" bietet einen fundierten,
> praxisnahen Uberblick uber Tomcat, Turbine, Jetspeed und Cocoon. Au?erdem
> werden die Prinzipien der Web-Entwicklung anhand des Model-View-Controller
> (MVC)-Paradigmas verstandlich erlautert. Einen weiteren Schwerpunkt stellt
> die Entwicklung von Enterprise-Portalen dar - hier werden die wichtigsten
> Grundbegriffe moderner Portal- Konzepte dargestellt. Anhand der Frameworks
> Jetspeed und Cocoon wird die Portal-Entwicklung im Detail beleuchtet und
> eine ausfuhrliche Beispiel-Applikation (Portal-Anwendung mit
elektronischen
> Auktionen) auf Jetspeed-Basis liefert den unverzichtbaren Praxisbezug.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
>
> > -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Adrian Madrid [mailto:aemadrid@yahoo.com]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2002 20:12
> > An: Turbine Mailing List
> > Betreff: Turbine Book
> >
> >
> > Is there any book in preparation for Turbine? I think
> > there is definetely a market for it. I know I'm part
> > of it, and even if I'm the only one I'm a very big
> > person :-)
> >
> > Anyway, even a quick start with detailed information
> > on what to do in steps explaining the different
> > services and all would be great.
> >
> > Just throwing ideas around...
> >
> > Adrian
> >
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AW: Turbine Book [to be released]
Posted by Marc Lustig <ma...@marclustig.com>.
It is true that the lack of a clear direction is a severe problem with
Turbine. However I think a book would be great that explains the various
components and architectural ideas behind Turbine and how to build an app
from that so that it fits the individual requirements.
There is a book in German scheduled to be released in december called
"Portale und Web-Applikationen mit Apache Frameworks".
It covers the following [Excerpt from the editor]:
Verschiedene Frameworks der Apache Software Foundation bieten Entwicklern
von Web-Anwendungen ein au?erst nutzliches Gerust fur ihre Projekte. Dabei
basieren die Frameworks Turbine, Jetspeed, Cocoon auf den Standards Java und
XML und lassen sich daher an beliebiger Stelle erweitern. Das Buch "Portale
und Web- Applikationen mit Apache Frameworks" bietet einen fundierten,
praxisnahen Uberblick uber Tomcat, Turbine, Jetspeed und Cocoon. Au?erdem
werden die Prinzipien der Web-Entwicklung anhand des Model-View-Controller
(MVC)-Paradigmas verstandlich erlautert. Einen weiteren Schwerpunkt stellt
die Entwicklung von Enterprise-Portalen dar - hier werden die wichtigsten
Grundbegriffe moderner Portal- Konzepte dargestellt. Anhand der Frameworks
Jetspeed und Cocoon wird die Portal-Entwicklung im Detail beleuchtet und
eine ausfuhrliche Beispiel-Applikation (Portal-Anwendung mit elektronischen
Auktionen) auf Jetspeed-Basis liefert den unverzichtbaren Praxisbezug.
Cheers,
Marc
> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Adrian Madrid [mailto:aemadrid@yahoo.com]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2002 20:12
> An: Turbine Mailing List
> Betreff: Turbine Book
>
>
> Is there any book in preparation for Turbine? I think
> there is definetely a market for it. I know I'm part
> of it, and even if I'm the only one I'm a very big
> person :-)
>
> Anyway, even a quick start with detailed information
> on what to do in steps explaining the different
> services and all would be great.
>
> Just throwing ideas around...
>
> Adrian
>
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