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SVG to SWF
I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf format. I
looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl and it is
rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the web and I
could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
SWFSerializer.
Thanks in advance,
Carl
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Boris Althaus <bo...@petra-productions.de>.
Yes I think it is the caching. On my computer it works.
I don't have to decide about the licensing model, but I thing we would change the licensing model to a cocoon-conform license, if this is a obstacle.
Boris
----- Original Message -----
From: Joerg Heinicke
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: SVG to SWF
On 13.11.2003 10:33, Boris Althaus wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> the demo on the website is dynamic!
> You can change the sourcecode in the left window and after submitting, you will see the changes in the right window.
> Best experience you will have with InternetExplorer on pc, because the plugin for svg does not work on other platforms.
>
> It is developed with cocoon 2.04. The installation is not to easy, but i could give some advice.
>
> If it is integrated into Cocoons CVS would be great thing.
Thanks, Boris, for your reply. I tried a really simple thing: "Tiger" =>
"Tier". The SVG is dynamic and has the change, on the flash there it is
still "Tiger". Is it only caching?
You read the problem with the licensing? We can not redistribute GPL
code because of its viral aspects.
Joerg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joerg Heinicke
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: SVG to SWF
>
>
> On 12.11.2003 17:06, Stephan Michels wrote:
>
> >>I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf format. I
> >>looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl and it is
> >>rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the web and I
> >>could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
> >>SWFSerializer.
> >
> >
> > There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
> >
> > http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
> >
> > I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
>
> If it works, it's a really nice thing, but the demo on the website is
> not dynamic. IMO it's worth to be integrated into Cocoon's CVS.
> Furthermore I would even replace the current solution, because of a
> readable XML input (SVG) in contrary to the current page2swf.xsl. But
> it's GPLed until now, even if there is no need AFAICS. The used
> JGenerator has "Apache style license". But I think it's possible to
> speak with them.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Joerg
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le Jeudi, 13 nov 2003, à 13:16 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit :
> Boris Althaus wrote:
>> Hello Joerg,
>> what kind of lince would be the right one.
>> Where can i take the approciate licence-text
>> Boris
>
> Maybe someone else can jump in here and correct me or add additional
> information...
The jfor (www.jfor.org) or chaperon (http://chaperon.sourceforge.net/)
licenses are other examples of ASF-like licenses which are ok for
Cocoon.
-Bertrand
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jh...@virbus.de>.
Boris Althaus wrote:
> Hello Joerg,
>
> what kind of lince would be the right one.
> Where can i take the approciate licence-text
>
> Boris
Maybe someone else can jump in here and correct me or add additional
information.
You can use an Apache style license (http://www.apache.org/licenses/) or a
compatible license as I know BSD is one. You use the JGenerator and they
also use an Apache style license (http://www.flashgap.com/contribute.html).
Joerg
> You read the problem with the licensing? We can not redistribute GPL
> code because of its viral aspects.
>
> Joerg
>
> > > There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
> > >
> > > http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
> > >
> > > I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
> > But
> > it's GPLed until now, even if there is no need AFAICS. The used
> > JGenerator has "Apache style license". But I think it's
> possible to
> > speak with them.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Joerg
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Boris Althaus <bo...@petra-productions.de>.
Hello Joerg,
what kind of lince would be the right one.
Where can i take the approciate licence-text
Boris
----- Original Message -----
From: Joerg Heinicke
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: SVG to SWF
On 13.11.2003 10:33, Boris Althaus wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> the demo on the website is dynamic!
> You can change the sourcecode in the left window and after submitting, you will see the changes in the right window.
> Best experience you will have with InternetExplorer on pc, because the plugin for svg does not work on other platforms.
>
> It is developed with cocoon 2.04. The installation is not to easy, but i could give some advice.
>
> If it is integrated into Cocoons CVS would be great thing.
Thanks, Boris, for your reply. I tried a really simple thing: "Tiger" =>
"Tier". The SVG is dynamic and has the change, on the flash there it is
still "Tiger". Is it only caching?
You read the problem with the licensing? We can not redistribute GPL
code because of its viral aspects.
Joerg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joerg Heinicke
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: SVG to SWF
>
>
> On 12.11.2003 17:06, Stephan Michels wrote:
>
> >>I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf format. I
> >>looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl and it is
> >>rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the web and I
> >>could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
> >>SWFSerializer.
> >
> >
> > There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
> >
> > http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
> >
> > I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
>
> If it works, it's a really nice thing, but the demo on the website is
> not dynamic. IMO it's worth to be integrated into Cocoon's CVS.
> Furthermore I would even replace the current solution, because of a
> readable XML input (SVG) in contrary to the current page2swf.xsl. But
> it's GPLed until now, even if there is no need AFAICS. The used
> JGenerator has "Apache style license". But I think it's possible to
> speak with them.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Joerg
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jh...@virbus.de>.
On 13.11.2003 10:33, Boris Althaus wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> the demo on the website is dynamic!
> You can change the sourcecode in the left window and after submitting, you will see the changes in the right window.
> Best experience you will have with InternetExplorer on pc, because the plugin for svg does not work on other platforms.
>
> It is developed with cocoon 2.04. The installation is not to easy, but i could give some advice.
>
> If it is integrated into Cocoons CVS would be great thing.
Thanks, Boris, for your reply. I tried a really simple thing: "Tiger" =>
"Tier". The SVG is dynamic and has the change, on the flash there it is
still "Tiger". Is it only caching?
You read the problem with the licensing? We can not redistribute GPL
code because of its viral aspects.
Joerg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joerg Heinicke
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: SVG to SWF
>
>
> On 12.11.2003 17:06, Stephan Michels wrote:
>
> >>I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf format. I
> >>looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl and it is
> >>rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the web and I
> >>could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
> >>SWFSerializer.
> >
> >
> > There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
> >
> > http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
> >
> > I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
>
> If it works, it's a really nice thing, but the demo on the website is
> not dynamic. IMO it's worth to be integrated into Cocoon's CVS.
> Furthermore I would even replace the current solution, because of a
> readable XML input (SVG) in contrary to the current page2swf.xsl. But
> it's GPLed until now, even if there is no need AFAICS. The used
> JGenerator has "Apache style license". But I think it's possible to
> speak with them.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Joerg
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Boris Althaus <bo...@petra-productions.de>.
Hallo,
the demo on the website is dynamic!
You can change the sourcecode in the left window and after submitting, you will see the changes in the right window.
Best experience you will have with InternetExplorer on pc, because the plugin for svg does not work on other platforms.
It is developed with cocoon 2.04. The installation is not to easy, but i could give some advice.
If it is integrated into Cocoons CVS would be great thing.
Boris
----- Original Message -----
From: Joerg Heinicke
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: SVG to SWF
On 12.11.2003 17:06, Stephan Michels wrote:
>>I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf format. I
>>looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl and it is
>>rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the web and I
>>could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
>>SWFSerializer.
>
>
> There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
>
> http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
>
> I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
If it works, it's a really nice thing, but the demo on the website is
not dynamic. IMO it's worth to be integrated into Cocoon's CVS.
Furthermore I would even replace the current solution, because of a
readable XML input (SVG) in contrary to the current page2swf.xsl. But
it's GPLed until now, even if there is no need AFAICS. The used
JGenerator has "Apache style license". But I think it's possible to
speak with them.
WDYT?
Joerg
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le Jeudi, 13 nov 2003, à 10:28 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit :
> ...Ah, didn't know that. Then not replacing, but just another input
> format :-)
ok!
-Bertrand
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jh...@virbus.de>.
On 13.11.2003 07:41, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>>>> I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf
>>>> format. I
>>>> looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl
>>>> and it is
>>>> rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the
>>>> web and I
>>>> could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
>>>> SWFSerializer.
>>>
>>> There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
>>> http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
>>> I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
>>
>>
>> If it works, it's a really nice thing, but the demo on the website is
>> not dynamic. IMO it's worth to be integrated into Cocoon's CVS.
>> Furthermore I would even replace the current solution, because of a
>> readable XML input (SVG) in contrary to the current page2swf.xsl....
>
>
> About replacing: does this new thing handle parsing of SWF as well?
>
> The current swf block allows "round-tripping" of SWF to XML to SWF,
> which can be really useful (applying i18n transformer to Flash movies
> for example).
Ah, didn't know that. Then not replacing, but just another input format :-)
Joerg
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le Mercredi, 12 nov 2003, à 18:40 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit
:
> On 12.11.2003 17:06, Stephan Michels wrote:
>
>>> I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf
>>> format. I
>>> looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl
>>> and it is
>>> rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the
>>> web and I
>>> could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
>>> SWFSerializer.
>> There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
>> http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
>> I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
>
> If it works, it's a really nice thing, but the demo on the website is
> not dynamic. IMO it's worth to be integrated into Cocoon's CVS.
> Furthermore I would even replace the current solution, because of a
> readable XML input (SVG) in contrary to the current page2swf.xsl....
About replacing: does this new thing handle parsing of SWF as well?
The current swf block allows "round-tripping" of SWF to XML to SWF,
which can be really useful (applying i18n transformer to Flash movies
for example).
-Bertrand
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jh...@virbus.de>.
On 12.11.2003 17:06, Stephan Michels wrote:
>>I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf format. I
>>looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl and it is
>>rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the web and I
>>could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
>>SWFSerializer.
>
>
> There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
>
> http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
>
> I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
If it works, it's a really nice thing, but the demo on the website is
not dynamic. IMO it's worth to be integrated into Cocoon's CVS.
Furthermore I would even replace the current solution, because of a
readable XML input (SVG) in contrary to the current page2swf.xsl. But
it's GPLed until now, even if there is no need AFAICS. The used
JGenerator has "Apache style license". But I think it's possible to
speak with them.
WDYT?
Joerg
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Re: SVG to SWF
Posted by Stephan Michels <st...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Carl Yestrau wrote:
> I would like to use cocoon to convert simple svg images into swf format. I
> looked into the source of /samples/hello-world/style/page2swf.xsl and it is
> rather complex and cryptic. I have conducted investigation on the web and I
> could not find any documentation with regards to using cocoon and the
> SWFSerializer.
There also exist an SVG to SWF serializer:
http://www.productionserver.org/serializer/demo/
I can't tell you if it works, but it might help.
Stephan.
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