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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> on 2015/04/07 01:33:32 UTC

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still technically
obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that should buy
us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting Cordova to
work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.

Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start voting on an
RC for this?   What do people think?



On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Here's issues:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write RELEASENOTES.md)
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the version in
> > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
> > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need to be done.
> I
> > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to help track
> and
> > know what's left for release something.
> >
> > - upgrade guide,
> > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> > - and making it so that the default project template includes <plugin
> > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin, if not a
> > vote,
> > > to be able to vote on this.
> > >
> > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we start the
> > official
> > > release process for the plugins?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <iclelland@chromium.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing whitelist
> > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project template includes
> > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's do a RC
> while
> > > we
> > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> > > >>
> > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would be
> awesome.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people (that are
> not
> > > >> > us) can test...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're waiting on a
> > > >> discussion
> > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should go to a
> vote
> > > >> thread
> > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new style
> > whitelist
> > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this release
> > because
> > > of
> > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since we already
> > > >> > pluginized
> > > >> > > the whitelist.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches implementing the
> > default
> > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app would be
> > > >> required to
> > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart defaults in
> > the
> > > >> > platform
> > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override them.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any conclusions.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > >> > >> Nikhil
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> > > >> > >> To: dev
> > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we get a VOTE
> > thread
> > > >> > started
> > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer than I would
> > have
> > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader triggers
> > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re: whitelists, so once
> > > that's
> > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related thread.
> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default (aka
> > no-plugin)
> > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network requests
> shouldn't
> > > it?
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of 4.0.0 for
> > > Android.
> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is much
> longer
> > > than
> > > >> > >> > > that,
> > > >> > >> > and
> > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> no-network-access
> > > >> policy
> > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented policy was:
> > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we should
> > > certainly
> > > >> do
> > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be a real
> > problem
> > > to
> > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking the
> release,
> > > >> it's
> > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core hooks
> > correctly
> > > so
> > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and that people
> who
> > > >> don't
> > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better one.
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
> > > cordova-android
> > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for cordova-ios
> > > 3.8.0.
> > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> > > >> > >> > look
> > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native portions of the
> > > >> whitelist
> > > >> > >> > plugin,
> > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with an ios app
> if
> > > it's
> > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that repo.)
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > Ian
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> shazron@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so that it
> > compiles
> > > >> on
> > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a problem to fix
> this
> > > at
> > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> > > >> > >> > or
> > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here related to the
> > > compile
> > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
> > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are what's
> holding
> > > up
> > > >> the
> > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> > > >> > >> > > > > release
> > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing that's holding
> up
> > > this
> > > >> > >> > release?
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew Grieve <
> > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with the
> whitelist
> > > >> changes
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> > > >> > >> > have
> > > >> > >> > > > > both
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins released
> > > before
> > > >> we
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> > > >> > >> > do
> > > >> > >> > > a
> > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able to write an
> > app
> > > >> that
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> > > >> > >> > > the
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving to be a bit
> > of a
> > > >> pain
> > > >> > >> > point.
> > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and need to
> install
> > > the
> > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make network
> > > requests.
> > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything seems to
> work.
> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist plugin
> > generates
> > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so now I
> can't
> > > just
> > > >> > run
> > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the platforms up and
> > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between. If someone
> > > makes a
> > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the plugin, it will
> > > >> appear
> > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually function
> > properly
> > > >> due
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain is somewhat
> > > >> expected
> > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case where
> > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> > > is
> > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> > > >> > >> > can
> > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
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> > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> > >> > ---------
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> > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Santana
> > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >
>

RE: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by "Treggiari, Leo" <le...@intel.com>.
You may have seen this before (deja-vu).
If this is not the correct place for this, sorry that my focus is not
on following a strict release process but rather releasing a good
product.

Having read the proposed whitelist release notes, I have the following 
additional question:

Based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!

The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist in order
to get a whitelist implemented correctly.

Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.

The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?  
Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?  
Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?

It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation. 

Leo


-----Original Message-----
From: agrieve@google.com [mailto:agrieve@google.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Grieve
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 7:08 PM
To: Andrew Grieve
Cc: dev; Homer, Tony
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a couple
other changes).

I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
objections.


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have this done
> shortly and would prefer it lands?)
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sweet!
>>
>> @purplecabbage
>> risingj.com
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Let's do it!
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
>> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still technically
>> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that should
>> buy
>> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting
>> Cordova to
>> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.
>> > >
>> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start voting
>> on
>> > an
>> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Here's issues:
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
>> RELEASENOTES.md)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
>> csantana23@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the
>> > version
>> > > in
>> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
>> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need to be
>> > > done.
>> > > > I
>> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to help
>> > track
>> > > > and
>> > > > > know what's left for release something.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - upgrade guide,
>> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
>> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template includes
>> <plugin
>> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin, if
>> > not a
>> > > > > vote,
>> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
>> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we start
>> the
>> > > > > official
>> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
>> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
>> > > agrieve@chromium.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing
>> > > whitelist
>> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project template
>> > > includes
>> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's do
>> a RC
>> > > > while
>> > > > > > we
>> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would be
>> > > > awesome.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people
>> (that
>> > are
>> > > > not
>> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
>> > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're waiting
>> on a
>> > > > > > >> discussion
>> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should go
>> to
>> > a
>> > > > vote
>> > > > > > >> thread
>> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new
>> style
>> > > > > whitelist
>> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this
>> release
>> > > > > because
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since we
>> > > already
>> > > > > > >> > pluginized
>> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
>> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
>> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches implementing
>> the
>> > > > > default
>> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app
>> would
>> > be
>> > > > > > >> required to
>> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart
>> defaults
>> > > in
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > >> > platform
>> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override
>> them.
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any conclusions.
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
>> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
>> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
>> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we get a
>> VOTE
>> > > > > thread
>> > > > > > >> > started
>> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer than I
>> > would
>> > > > > have
>> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader
>> > triggers
>> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re: whitelists,
>> so
>> > > once
>> > > > > > that's
>> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
>> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related
>> > thread.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default (aka
>> > > > > no-plugin)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network requests
>> > > > shouldn't
>> > > > > > it?
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of 4.0.0
>> for
>> > > > > > Android.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is
>> much
>> > > > longer
>> > > > > > than
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
>> > > > > > >> > >> > and
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
>> > > > no-network-access
>> > > > > > >> policy
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented policy
>> > was:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we
>> should
>> > > > > > certainly
>> > > > > > >> do
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be a
>> real
>> > > > > problem
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking the
>> > > > release,
>> > > > > > >> it's
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core hooks
>> > > > > correctly
>> > > > > > so
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and that
>> > people
>> > > > who
>> > > > > > >> don't
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better one.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
>> > > > > > cordova-android
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
>> > > cordova-ios
>> > > > > > 3.8.0.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > look
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native portions
>> of
>> > the
>> > > > > > >> whitelist
>> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with an
>> ios
>> > app
>> > > > if
>> > > > > > it's
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that repo.)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
>> > > > shazron@gmail.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so that
>> it
>> > > > > compiles
>> > > > > > >> on
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a problem to
>> > fix
>> > > > this
>> > > > > > at
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
>> > > > > > >> > >> > or
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here related
>> to
>> > the
>> > > > > > compile
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
>> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are
>> what's
>> > > > holding
>> > > > > > up
>> > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing that's
>> > holding
>> > > > up
>> > > > > > this
>> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew
>> Grieve <
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with the
>> > > > whitelist
>> > > > > > >> changes
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
>> > > > > > >> > >> > have
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins
>> > released
>> > > > > > before
>> > > > > > >> we
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
>> > > > > > >> > >> > do
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able to
>> > write
>> > > an
>> > > > > app
>> > > > > > >> that
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving to
>> be a
>> > > bit
>> > > > > of a
>> > > > > > >> pain
>> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and need to
>> > > > install
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make
>> network
>> > > > > > requests.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything
>> seems to
>> > > > work.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist
>> plugin
>> > > > > generates
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so
>> now I
>> > > > can't
>> > > > > > just
>> > > > > > >> > run
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
>> platforms up
>> > > and
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between. If
>> > someone
>> > > > > > makes a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the plugin,
>> it
>> > > will
>> > > > > > >> appear
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually
>> function
>> > > > > properly
>> > > > > > >> due
>> > > > > > >> > to
>> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain is
>> > > somewhat
>> > > > > > >> expected
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case where
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
>> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
>> > > > > > >> > >> > can
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > >
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Carlos Santana
>> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
merged. thanks!

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <ni...@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> I have another small PR to the blog post for the release:
> https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/pull/36/commits
>
> Thanks,
> Nikhil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Huijben [mailto:s.huijben@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 11:47 AM
> To: Ian Clelland; dev@cordova.apache.org
> Cc: leo.treggiari@intel.com
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
>
> Then, it seems strange to me that it logs an error and repeated warnings
> if the meta tag is missing. Perhaps we should remove that from the plugin.
>
> Op do 9 apr. 2015 om 20:21 schreef Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>
>
> > Moving from [VOTE] thread:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> But why is the meta csp tag required?
> >
> >
> > It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can
> > restrict more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of.
> > (streaming <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo
> > <le...@intel.com>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist
> >> in order to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
> >>
> >> Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
> >>
> >> The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
> >> Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
> >> Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
> >>
> >
> > This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI
> > points to cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be
> > able to release a version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
> >
> > The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is
> > underway about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools),
> > so I think there are only two possible timelines:
> >
> > A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then
> > tools released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
> >
> > B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
> > cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to
> > pin to cordova-android 4)
> >
> > In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which
> > works.
> >
> >
> >> It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
> >>
> >> Leo
> >>
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is
> >> an icons change?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being
> moved?
> >> I
> >> > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should
> >> > happen
> >> after
> >> > the release?
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
> >> couple
> >> > > other changes).
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
> >> > > objections.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve
> >> > > <ag...@chromium.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll
> >> > > > have
> >> this
> >> > > done
> >> > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Sweet!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> @purplecabbage
> >> > > >> risingj.com
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
> >> agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Let's do it!
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser
> >> > > >> > <bo...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until
> >> > > >> > > after
> >> the
> >> > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
> >> > technically
> >> > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months,
> >> > > >> > > that
> >> > > should
> >> > > >> buy
> >> > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.
> >> > > >> > > Getting
> >> > > >> Cordova to
> >> > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a
> >> > > >> > > non-trivial
> >> task.
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we
> >> > > >> > > start
> >> > > voting
> >> > > >> on
> >> > > >> > an
> >> > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > Here's issues:
> >> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> >> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716
> >> > > >> > > > (whitelist)
> >> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> >> > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >> > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not
> >> > > >> > > > > pin
> >> the
> >> > > >> > version
> >> > > >> > > in
> >> > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are
> done.
> >> > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks
> >> > > >> > > > > that
> >> need
> >> > to
> >> > > be
> >> > > >> > > done.
> >> > > >> > > > I
> >> > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA
> >> > > >> > > > > Items to
> >> > help
> >> > > >> > track
> >> > > >> > > > and
> >> > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> >> > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> >> > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
> >> includes
> >> > > >> <plugin
> >> > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
> >> plugin,
> >> > > if
> >> > > >> > not a
> >> > > >> > > > > vote,
> >> > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> >> > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while
> >> > > >> > > > > > we
> >> > start
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> > > > > official
> >> > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
> >> direction.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
> >> publishing
> >> > > >> > > whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> project
> >> > template
> >> > > >> > > includes
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />).
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> Maybe
> >> let's
> >> > > do
> >> > > >> a RC
> >> > > >> > > > while
> >> > > >> > > > > > we
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> that
> >> would
> >> > > be
> >> > > >> > > > awesome.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
> >> > > shazron@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
> >> people
> >> > > >> (that
> >> > > >> > are
> >> > > >> > > > not
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> >> > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > we're
> >> > waiting
> >> > > >> on a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > we
> >> should
> >> > > go
> >> > > >> to
> >> > > >> > a
> >> > > >> > > > vote
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> thread
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > and a
> >> new
> >> > > >> style
> >> > > >> > > > > whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > delaying
> >> this
> >> > > >> release
> >> > > >> > > > > because
> >> > > >> > > > > > of
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > especially
> >> since
> >> > > we
> >> > > >> > > already
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Khandelwal
> >> <
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
> >> > > implementing
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> > > > > default
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> every
> >> app
> >> > > >> would
> >> > > >> > be
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> required to
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
> >> smart
> >> > > >> defaults
> >> > > >> > > in
> >> > > >> > > > > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
> >> override
> >> > > >> them.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
> >> > conclusions.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
> >> Release
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> can we
> >> > get a
> >> > > >> VOTE
> >> > > >> > > > > thread
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > started
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Grieve <
> >> > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > longer
> >> > than
> >> > > I
> >> > > >> > would
> >> > > >> > > > > have
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
> >> FileReader
> >> > > >> > triggers
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
> >> > whitelists,
> >> > > >> so
> >> > > >> > > once
> >> > > >> > > > > > that's
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Clelland <
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> >> > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
> >> related
> >> > > >> > thread.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
> >> Default
> >> > > (aka
> >> > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > network
> >> > requests
> >> > > >> > > > shouldn't
> >> > > >> > > > > > it?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > then :)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a month long, and not
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > the first discussion of
> >> > > 4.0.0
> >> > > >> for
> >> > > >> > > > > > Android.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
> >> discussion is
> >> > > >> much
> >> > > >> > > > longer
> >> > > >> > > > > > than
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > default
> >> > > >> > > > no-network-access
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> policy
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > mcgw Here's where I mentioned what the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > implemented
> >> > > policy
> >> > > >> > was:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnb
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > lpjm And in another discussion:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizm
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > svrz
> >> )
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > then
> >> we
> >> > > >> should
> >> > > >> > > > > > certainly
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> do
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > would
> >> be
> >> > a
> >> > > >> real
> >> > > >> > > > > problem
> >> > > >> > > > > > to
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it
> right.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
> >> blocking
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> > > > release,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> it's
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> >> core
> >> > > hooks
> >> > > >> > > > > correctly
> >> > > >> > > > > > so
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > and
> >> > that
> >> > > >> > people
> >> > > >> > > > who
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> don't
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > better
> >> > one.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > required
> >> for
> >> > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > building
> >> for
> >> > > >> > > cordova-ios
> >> > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > ios-native
> >> > portions
> >> > > >> of
> >> > > >> > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > interfere
> >> with
> >> > an
> >> > > >> ios
> >> > > >> > app
> >> > > >> > > > if
> >> > > >> > > > > > it's
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that
> >> > repo.)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage risingj.com
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Shazron <
> >> > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > fixed
> >> so
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> it
> >> > > >> > > > > compiles
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> on
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
> >> > problem
> >> > > to
> >> > > >> > fix
> >> > > >> > > > this
> >> > > >> > > > > > at
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > here
> >> > related
> >> > > >> to
> >> > > >> > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > compile
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Darryl
> >> Pogue
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Bowser <
> >> > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> changes
> >> are
> >> > > >> what's
> >> > > >> > > > holding
> >> > > >> > > > > > up
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> thing
> >> > that's
> >> > > >> > holding
> >> > > >> > > > up
> >> > > >> > > > > > this
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
> >> Andrew
> >> > > >> Grieve <
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> finish
> >> with
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > > > whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> changes
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
> >> plugins
> >> > > >> > released
> >> > > >> > > > > > before
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> we
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> be
> >> able
> >> > to
> >> > > >> > write
> >> > > >> > > an
> >> > > >> > > > > app
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> that
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
> >> proving
> >> > to
> >> > > >> be a
> >> > > >> > > bit
> >> > > >> > > > > of a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> pain
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > and
> >> > need
> >> > > to
> >> > > >> > > > install
> >> > > >> > > > > > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to
> >> make
> >> > > >> network
> >> > > >> > > > > > requests.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
> >> everything
> >> > > >> seems to
> >> > > >> > > > work.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
> >> legacy-whitelist
> >> > > >> plugin
> >> > > >> > > > > generates
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0,
> >> so
> >> > > >> now I
> >> > > >> > > > can't
> >> > > >> > > > > > just
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > run
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > the
> >> > > >> platforms up
> >> > > >> > > and
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
> >> between.
> >> > If
> >> > > >> > someone
> >> > > >> > > > > > makes a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > the
> >> > > plugin,
> >> > > >> it
> >> > > >> > > will
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> appear
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > actually
> >> > > >> function
> >> > > >> > > > > properly
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> due
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > to
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > so
> >> pain
> >> > is
> >> > > >> > > somewhat
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> expected
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > case
> >> > where
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > and
> >> > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> >> > > >> > > > > > is
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> > > apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
> >> > > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
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RE: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Nikhil Khandelwal <ni...@microsoft.com>.
I have another small PR to the blog post for the release: https://github.com/cordova/apache-blog-posts/pull/36/commits

Thanks,
Nikhil


-----Original Message-----
From: Serge Huijben [mailto:s.huijben@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2015 11:47 AM
To: Ian Clelland; dev@cordova.apache.org
Cc: leo.treggiari@intel.com
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Then, it seems strange to me that it logs an error and repeated warnings if the meta tag is missing. Perhaps we should remove that from the plugin.

Op do 9 apr. 2015 om 20:21 schreef Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>

> Moving from [VOTE] thread:
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But why is the meta csp tag required?
>
>
> It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can 
> restrict more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. 
> (streaming <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo 
> <le...@intel.com>
>  wrote:
>
>> Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
>
>
>>
>> The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist 
>> in order to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
>>
>> Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
>>
>> The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
>> Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
>> Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
>>
>
> This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI 
> points to cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be 
> able to release a version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
>
> The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is 
> underway about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), 
> so I think there are only two possible timelines:
>
> A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then 
> tools released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
>
> B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then 
> cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to 
> pin to cordova-android 4)
>
> In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which 
> works.
>
>
>> It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
>>
>> Leo
>>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is 
>> an icons change?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being moved?
>> I
>> > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should 
>> > happen
>> after
>> > the release?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
>> couple
>> > > other changes).
>> > >
>> > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no 
>> > > objections.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve 
>> > > <ag...@chromium.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll 
>> > > > have
>> this
>> > > done
>> > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Sweet!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> @purplecabbage
>> > > >> risingj.com
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
>> agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Let's do it!
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser 
>> > > >> > <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until 
>> > > >> > > after
>> the
>> > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
>> > technically
>> > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, 
>> > > >> > > that
>> > > should
>> > > >> buy
>> > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  
>> > > >> > > Getting
>> > > >> Cordova to
>> > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a 
>> > > >> > > non-trivial
>> task.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we 
>> > > >> > > start
>> > > voting
>> > > >> on
>> > > >> > an
>> > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > Here's issues:
>> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
>> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 
>> > > >> > > > (whitelist)
>> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
>> > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
>> > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not 
>> > > >> > > > > pin
>> the
>> > > >> > version
>> > > >> > > in
>> > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
>> > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks 
>> > > >> > > > > that
>> need
>> > to
>> > > be
>> > > >> > > done.
>> > > >> > > > I
>> > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA 
>> > > >> > > > > Items to
>> > help
>> > > >> > track
>> > > >> > > > and
>> > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
>> > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
>> > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
>> includes
>> > > >> <plugin
>> > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
>> plugin,
>> > > if
>> > > >> > not a
>> > > >> > > > > vote,
>> > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use 
>> > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while 
>> > > >> > > > > > we
>> > start
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > > > > official
>> > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
>> > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
>> direction.
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
>> > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
>> publishing
>> > > >> > > whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> project
>> > template
>> > > >> > > includes
>> > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> Maybe
>> let's
>> > > do
>> > > >> a RC
>> > > >> > > > while
>> > > >> > > > > > we
>> > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
>> > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> that
>> would
>> > > be
>> > > >> > > > awesome.
>> > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
>> > > shazron@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
>> people
>> > > >> (that
>> > > >> > are
>> > > >> > > > not
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
>> > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > we're
>> > waiting
>> > > >> on a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > we
>> should
>> > > go
>> > > >> to
>> > > >> > a
>> > > >> > > > vote
>> > > >> > > > > > >> thread
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > and a
>> new
>> > > >> style
>> > > >> > > > > whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > delaying
>> this
>> > > >> release
>> > > >> > > > > because
>> > > >> > > > > > of
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > especially
>> since
>> > > we
>> > > >> > > already
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Khandelwal
>> <
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
>> > > implementing
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > > > > default
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> every
>> app
>> > > >> would
>> > > >> > be
>> > > >> > > > > > >> required to
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
>> smart
>> > > >> defaults
>> > > >> > > in
>> > > >> > > > > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
>> override
>> > > >> them.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
>> > conclusions.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
>> Release
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> can we
>> > get a
>> > > >> VOTE
>> > > >> > > > > thread
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > started
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Grieve <
>> > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > longer
>> > than
>> > > I
>> > > >> > would
>> > > >> > > > > have
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
>> FileReader
>> > > >> > triggers
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
>> > whitelists,
>> > > >> so
>> > > >> > > once
>> > > >> > > > > > that's
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Clelland <
>> > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
>> > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
>> related
>> > > >> > thread.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
>> Default
>> > > (aka
>> > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > network
>> > requests
>> > > >> > > > shouldn't
>> > > >> > > > > > it?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > then :)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a month long, and not 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > the first discussion of
>> > > 4.0.0
>> > > >> for
>> > > >> > > > > > Android.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
>> discussion is
>> > > >> much
>> > > >> > > > longer
>> > > >> > > > > > than
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > default
>> > > >> > > > no-network-access
>> > > >> > > > > > >> policy
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > mcgw Here's where I mentioned what the 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > implemented
>> > > policy
>> > > >> > was:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnb
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > lpjm And in another discussion:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizm
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > svrz
>> )
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > then
>> we
>> > > >> should
>> > > >> > > > > > certainly
>> > > >> > > > > > >> do
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > would
>> be
>> > a
>> > > >> real
>> > > >> > > > > problem
>> > > >> > > > > > to
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
>> blocking
>> > > the
>> > > >> > > > release,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> it's
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
>> core
>> > > hooks
>> > > >> > > > > correctly
>> > > >> > > > > > so
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > and
>> > that
>> > > >> > people
>> > > >> > > > who
>> > > >> > > > > > >> don't
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > better
>> > one.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > required
>> for
>> > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > building
>> for
>> > > >> > > cordova-ios
>> > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > ios-native
>> > portions
>> > > >> of
>> > > >> > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > interfere
>> with
>> > an
>> > > >> ios
>> > > >> > app
>> > > >> > > > if
>> > > >> > > > > > it's
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that
>> > repo.)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage risingj.com
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Shazron <
>> > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > fixed
>> so
>> > > that
>> > > >> it
>> > > >> > > > > compiles
>> > > >> > > > > > >> on
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
>> > problem
>> > > to
>> > > >> > fix
>> > > >> > > > this
>> > > >> > > > > > at
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > here
>> > related
>> > > >> to
>> > > >> > the
>> > > >> > > > > > compile
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > Darryl
>> Pogue
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Bowser <
>> > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> changes
>> are
>> > > >> what's
>> > > >> > > > holding
>> > > >> > > > > > up
>> > > >> > > > > > >> the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> thing
>> > that's
>> > > >> > holding
>> > > >> > > > up
>> > > >> > > > > > this
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
>> Andrew
>> > > >> Grieve <
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> finish
>> with
>> > the
>> > > >> > > > whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> changes
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
>> plugins
>> > > >> > released
>> > > >> > > > > > before
>> > > >> > > > > > >> we
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> be
>> able
>> > to
>> > > >> > write
>> > > >> > > an
>> > > >> > > > > app
>> > > >> > > > > > >> that
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
>> proving
>> > to
>> > > >> be a
>> > > >> > > bit
>> > > >> > > > > of a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> pain
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > and
>> > need
>> > > to
>> > > >> > > > install
>> > > >> > > > > > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to
>> make
>> > > >> network
>> > > >> > > > > > requests.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
>> everything
>> > > >> seems to
>> > > >> > > > work.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
>> legacy-whitelist
>> > > >> plugin
>> > > >> > > > > generates
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0,
>> so
>> > > >> now I
>> > > >> > > > can't
>> > > >> > > > > > just
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > run
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > the
>> > > >> platforms up
>> > > >> > > and
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
>> between.
>> > If
>> > > >> > someone
>> > > >> > > > > > makes a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > the
>> > > plugin,
>> > > >> it
>> > > >> > > will
>> > > >> > > > > > >> appear
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > actually
>> > > >> function
>> > > >> > > > > properly
>> > > >> > > > > > >> due
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > to
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > so
>> pain
>> > is
>> > > >> > > somewhat
>> > > >> > > > > > >> expected
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > case
>> > where
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released 
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > and
>> > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> > > >> > > > > > is
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
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>> > > >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Certainly makes you notice though. You're free to have an empty CSP tag,
and the plugin docs are full of copy/pastable examples:

https://github.com/apache/cordova-plugin-whitelist/blob/master/README.md

I do think that since CSP is our main way of enforcing whitelists going
forward, that we should be loud in raising awareness of them.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Then, it seems strange to me that it logs an error and repeated warnings if
> the meta tag is missing. Perhaps we should remove that from the plugin.
>
> Op do 9 apr. 2015 om 20:21 schreef Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>
>
> > Moving from [VOTE] thread:
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> But why is the meta csp tag required?
> >
> >
> > It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can restrict
> > more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. (streaming
> > <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo <le...@intel.com>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist in
> >> order
> >> to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
> >>
> >> Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
> >>
> >> The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
> >> Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
> >> Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
> >>
> >
> > This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI points
> > to cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be able to
> > release a version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
> >
> > The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is underway
> > about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), so I think
> > there are only two possible timelines:
> >
> > A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then
> tools
> > released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
> >
> > B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
> > cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to
> pin
> > to cordova-android 4)
> >
> > In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which
> > works.
> >
> >
> >> It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
> >>
> >> Leo
> >>
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is an
> >> icons change?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being
> moved?
> >> I
> >> > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen
> >> after
> >> > the release?
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
> >> couple
> >> > > other changes).
> >> > >
> >> > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
> >> > > objections.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have
> >> this
> >> > > done
> >> > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Sweet!
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> @purplecabbage
> >> > > >> risingj.com
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
> >> agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> > Let's do it!
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until
> after
> >> the
> >> > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
> >> > technically
> >> > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months,
> that
> >> > > should
> >> > > >> buy
> >> > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.
> Getting
> >> > > >> Cordova to
> >> > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial
> >> task.
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we
> start
> >> > > voting
> >> > > >> on
> >> > > >> > an
> >> > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > Here's issues:
> >> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> >> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> >> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> >> > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >> > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not
> pin
> >> the
> >> > > >> > version
> >> > > >> > > in
> >> > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are
> done.
> >> > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that
> >> need
> >> > to
> >> > > be
> >> > > >> > > done.
> >> > > >> > > > I
> >> > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items
> to
> >> > help
> >> > > >> > track
> >> > > >> > > > and
> >> > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> >> > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> >> > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
> >> includes
> >> > > >> <plugin
> >> > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
> >> plugin,
> >> > > if
> >> > > >> > not a
> >> > > >> > > > > vote,
> >> > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> >> > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we
> >> > start
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> > > > > official
> >> > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> >> > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
> >> direction.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
> >> publishing
> >> > > >> > > whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project
> >> > template
> >> > > >> > > includes
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe
> >> let's
> >> > > do
> >> > > >> a RC
> >> > > >> > > > while
> >> > > >> > > > > > we
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that
> >> would
> >> > > be
> >> > > >> > > > awesome.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
> >> > > shazron@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
> >> people
> >> > > >> (that
> >> > > >> > are
> >> > > >> > > > not
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> >> > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're
> >> > waiting
> >> > > >> on a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we
> >> should
> >> > > go
> >> > > >> to
> >> > > >> > a
> >> > > >> > > > vote
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> thread
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a
> >> new
> >> > > >> style
> >> > > >> > > > > whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying
> >> this
> >> > > >> release
> >> > > >> > > > > because
> >> > > >> > > > > > of
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially
> >> since
> >> > > we
> >> > > >> > > already
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil
> Khandelwal
> >> <
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
> >> > > implementing
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> > > > > default
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every
> >> app
> >> > > >> would
> >> > > >> > be
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> required to
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
> >> smart
> >> > > >> defaults
> >> > > >> > > in
> >> > > >> > > > > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
> >> override
> >> > > >> them.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
> >> > conclusions.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
> >> Release
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can
> we
> >> > get a
> >> > > >> VOTE
> >> > > >> > > > > thread
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > started
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took
> longer
> >> > than
> >> > > I
> >> > > >> > would
> >> > > >> > > > > have
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
> >> FileReader
> >> > > >> > triggers
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
> >> > whitelists,
> >> > > >> so
> >> > > >> > > once
> >> > > >> > > > > > that's
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian
> Clelland <
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> >> > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
> >> related
> >> > > >> > thread.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
> >> Default
> >> > > (aka
> >> > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network
> >> > requests
> >> > > >> > > > shouldn't
> >> > > >> > > > > > it?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then
> :)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion
> of
> >> > > 4.0.0
> >> > > >> for
> >> > > >> > > > > > Android.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
> >> discussion is
> >> > > >> much
> >> > > >> > > > longer
> >> > > >> > > > > > than
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> >> > > >> > > > no-network-access
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> policy
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the
> implemented
> >> > > policy
> >> > > >> > was:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz
> >> )
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision,
> then
> >> we
> >> > > >> should
> >> > > >> > > > > > certainly
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> do
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it
> would
> >> be
> >> > a
> >> > > >> real
> >> > > >> > > > > problem
> >> > > >> > > > > > to
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it
> right.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
> >> blocking
> >> > > the
> >> > > >> > > > release,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> it's
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the
> >> core
> >> > > hooks
> >> > > >> > > > > correctly
> >> > > >> > > > > > so
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job,
> and
> >> > that
> >> > > >> > people
> >> > > >> > > > who
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> don't
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a
> better
> >> > one.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin,
> required
> >> for
> >> > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building
> >> for
> >> > > >> > > cordova-ios
> >> > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native
> >> > portions
> >> > > >> of
> >> > > >> > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere
> >> with
> >> > an
> >> > > >> ios
> >> > > >> > app
> >> > > >> > > > if
> >> > > >> > > > > > it's
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that
> >> > repo.)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> >> > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed
> >> so
> >> > > that
> >> > > >> it
> >> > > >> > > > > compiles
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> on
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
> >> > problem
> >> > > to
> >> > > >> > fix
> >> > > >> > > > this
> >> > > >> > > > > > at
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here
> >> > related
> >> > > >> to
> >> > > >> > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > compile
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl
> >> Pogue
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser
> <
> >> > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes
> >> are
> >> > > >> what's
> >> > > >> > > > holding
> >> > > >> > > > > > up
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing
> >> > that's
> >> > > >> > holding
> >> > > >> > > > up
> >> > > >> > > > > > this
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
> >> Andrew
> >> > > >> Grieve <
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish
> >> with
> >> > the
> >> > > >> > > > whitelist
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> changes
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
> >> plugins
> >> > > >> > released
> >> > > >> > > > > > before
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> we
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be
> >> able
> >> > to
> >> > > >> > write
> >> > > >> > > an
> >> > > >> > > > > app
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> that
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
> >> proving
> >> > to
> >> > > >> be a
> >> > > >> > > bit
> >> > > >> > > > > of a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> pain
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master,
> and
> >> > need
> >> > > to
> >> > > >> > > > install
> >> > > >> > > > > > the
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to
> >> make
> >> > > >> network
> >> > > >> > > > > > requests.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
> >> everything
> >> > > >> seems to
> >> > > >> > > > work.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
> >> legacy-whitelist
> >> > > >> plugin
> >> > > >> > > > > generates
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0
> ,
> >> so
> >> > > >> now I
> >> > > >> > > > can't
> >> > > >> > > > > > just
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > run
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
> >> > > >> platforms up
> >> > > >> > > and
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
> >> between.
> >> > If
> >> > > >> > someone
> >> > > >> > > > > > makes a
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the
> >> > > plugin,
> >> > > >> it
> >> > > >> > > will
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> appear
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not
> actually
> >> > > >> function
> >> > > >> > > > > properly
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> due
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > to
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so
> >> pain
> >> > is
> >> > > >> > > somewhat
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> expected
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case
> >> > where
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released
> and
> >> > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> >> > > >> > > > > > is
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
> >> > > ------------------------------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.
> >> > > apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
> >> > > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >> > > >> > > > >
> >> > > >> > > >
> >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com>.
Then, it seems strange to me that it logs an error and repeated warnings if
the meta tag is missing. Perhaps we should remove that from the plugin.

Op do 9 apr. 2015 om 20:21 schreef Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>

> Moving from [VOTE] thread:
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But why is the meta csp tag required?
>
>
> It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can restrict
> more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. (streaming
> <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo <le...@intel.com>
>  wrote:
>
>> Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
>
>
>>
>> The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist in
>> order
>> to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
>>
>> Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
>>
>> The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
>> Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
>> Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
>>
>
> This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI points
> to cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be able to
> release a version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
>
> The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is underway
> about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), so I think
> there are only two possible timelines:
>
> A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then tools
> released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
>
> B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
> cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to pin
> to cordova-android 4)
>
> In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which
> works.
>
>
>> It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
>>
>> Leo
>>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is an
>> icons change?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being moved?
>> I
>> > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen
>> after
>> > the release?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
>> couple
>> > > other changes).
>> > >
>> > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
>> > > objections.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have
>> this
>> > > done
>> > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Sweet!
>> > > >>
>> > > >> @purplecabbage
>> > > >> risingj.com
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
>> agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Let's do it!
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after
>> the
>> > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
>> > technically
>> > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that
>> > > should
>> > > >> buy
>> > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting
>> > > >> Cordova to
>> > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial
>> task.
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start
>> > > voting
>> > > >> on
>> > > >> > an
>> > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > Here's issues:
>> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
>> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
>> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
>> > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
>> > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin
>> the
>> > > >> > version
>> > > >> > > in
>> > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
>> > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that
>> need
>> > to
>> > > be
>> > > >> > > done.
>> > > >> > > > I
>> > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to
>> > help
>> > > >> > track
>> > > >> > > > and
>> > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
>> > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
>> > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
>> includes
>> > > >> <plugin
>> > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
>> plugin,
>> > > if
>> > > >> > not a
>> > > >> > > > > vote,
>> > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
>> > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we
>> > start
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > > > > official
>> > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
>> > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
>> direction.
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
>> > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
>> publishing
>> > > >> > > whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project
>> > template
>> > > >> > > includes
>> > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe
>> let's
>> > > do
>> > > >> a RC
>> > > >> > > > while
>> > > >> > > > > > we
>> > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
>> > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that
>> would
>> > > be
>> > > >> > > > awesome.
>> > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
>> > > shazron@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
>> people
>> > > >> (that
>> > > >> > are
>> > > >> > > > not
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
>> > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're
>> > waiting
>> > > >> on a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we
>> should
>> > > go
>> > > >> to
>> > > >> > a
>> > > >> > > > vote
>> > > >> > > > > > >> thread
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a
>> new
>> > > >> style
>> > > >> > > > > whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying
>> this
>> > > >> release
>> > > >> > > > > because
>> > > >> > > > > > of
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially
>> since
>> > > we
>> > > >> > > already
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal
>> <
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
>> > > implementing
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > > > > default
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every
>> app
>> > > >> would
>> > > >> > be
>> > > >> > > > > > >> required to
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
>> smart
>> > > >> defaults
>> > > >> > > in
>> > > >> > > > > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
>> override
>> > > >> them.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
>> > conclusions.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
>> Release
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we
>> > get a
>> > > >> VOTE
>> > > >> > > > > thread
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > started
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer
>> > than
>> > > I
>> > > >> > would
>> > > >> > > > > have
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
>> FileReader
>> > > >> > triggers
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
>> > whitelists,
>> > > >> so
>> > > >> > > once
>> > > >> > > > > > that's
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
>> > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
>> related
>> > > >> > thread.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
>> Default
>> > > (aka
>> > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network
>> > requests
>> > > >> > > > shouldn't
>> > > >> > > > > > it?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of
>> > > 4.0.0
>> > > >> for
>> > > >> > > > > > Android.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
>> discussion is
>> > > >> much
>> > > >> > > > longer
>> > > >> > > > > > than
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
>> > > >> > > > no-network-access
>> > > >> > > > > > >> policy
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented
>> > > policy
>> > > >> > was:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz
>> )
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then
>> we
>> > > >> should
>> > > >> > > > > > certainly
>> > > >> > > > > > >> do
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would
>> be
>> > a
>> > > >> real
>> > > >> > > > > problem
>> > > >> > > > > > to
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
>> blocking
>> > > the
>> > > >> > > > release,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> it's
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the
>> core
>> > > hooks
>> > > >> > > > > correctly
>> > > >> > > > > > so
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and
>> > that
>> > > >> > people
>> > > >> > > > who
>> > > >> > > > > > >> don't
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better
>> > one.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required
>> for
>> > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building
>> for
>> > > >> > > cordova-ios
>> > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native
>> > portions
>> > > >> of
>> > > >> > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere
>> with
>> > an
>> > > >> ios
>> > > >> > app
>> > > >> > > > if
>> > > >> > > > > > it's
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that
>> > repo.)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
>> > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed
>> so
>> > > that
>> > > >> it
>> > > >> > > > > compiles
>> > > >> > > > > > >> on
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
>> > problem
>> > > to
>> > > >> > fix
>> > > >> > > > this
>> > > >> > > > > > at
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here
>> > related
>> > > >> to
>> > > >> > the
>> > > >> > > > > > compile
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl
>> Pogue
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
>> > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes
>> are
>> > > >> what's
>> > > >> > > > holding
>> > > >> > > > > > up
>> > > >> > > > > > >> the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing
>> > that's
>> > > >> > holding
>> > > >> > > > up
>> > > >> > > > > > this
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
>> Andrew
>> > > >> Grieve <
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish
>> with
>> > the
>> > > >> > > > whitelist
>> > > >> > > > > > >> changes
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
>> plugins
>> > > >> > released
>> > > >> > > > > > before
>> > > >> > > > > > >> we
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be
>> able
>> > to
>> > > >> > write
>> > > >> > > an
>> > > >> > > > > app
>> > > >> > > > > > >> that
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
>> proving
>> > to
>> > > >> be a
>> > > >> > > bit
>> > > >> > > > > of a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> pain
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and
>> > need
>> > > to
>> > > >> > > > install
>> > > >> > > > > > the
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to
>> make
>> > > >> network
>> > > >> > > > > > requests.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
>> everything
>> > > >> seems to
>> > > >> > > > work.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
>> legacy-whitelist
>> > > >> plugin
>> > > >> > > > > generates
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0,
>> so
>> > > >> now I
>> > > >> > > > can't
>> > > >> > > > > > just
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > run
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
>> > > >> platforms up
>> > > >> > > and
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
>> between.
>> > If
>> > > >> > someone
>> > > >> > > > > > makes a
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the
>> > > plugin,
>> > > >> it
>> > > >> > > will
>> > > >> > > > > > >> appear
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually
>> > > >> function
>> > > >> > > > > properly
>> > > >> > > > > > >> due
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > to
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so
>> pain
>> > is
>> > > >> > > somewhat
>> > > >> > > > > > >> expected
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case
>> > where
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
>> > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> > > >> > > > > > is
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> > > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.
>> > > apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > > > --
>> > > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
>> > > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
>> > > >> > > > >
>> > > >> > > >
>> > > >> > >
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Sounds good Steve!

Tools release should also make sure to update app-hello-world to include
whitelist plugin by default since that's clearly going to be a source of
confusion.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am going to start a discuss thread for plugins release later today.
>
> I'm thinking:
>
> 1) Android release
> 2) Plugins release
> 3) Tools release 5.0.0 with cordova-wp8, cordova-windows and
> cordova-android all updated, npm fetching, fixed --save workflow, etc.
>
> Whitelist plugins have both been released already. So they won't be
> included in the plugins release unless we have made changes to them and
> want to release updated versions.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Michal - Good point about npm vs github for links. We tend to tweak docs
>> post npm publish, so I've changed the blog post links to github ones.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > The plugins being on npm will likely be a bump. Perhaps we should
>> mention
>> > that it requires the latest CLI (not yet release one), and defer the
>> blog
>> > post until CLI is released?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Moving from [VOTE] thread:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > But why is the meta csp tag required?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can
>> restrict
>> >> more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. (streaming
>> >> <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo <
>> leo.treggiari@intel.com>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
>> >> >
>> >> > The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist
>> in
>> >> > order
>> >> > to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
>> >> >
>> >> > Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node
>> component.
>> >> >
>> >> > The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
>> >> > Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
>> >> > Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI
>> points
>> >> to
>> >> cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be able to
>> release
>> >> a
>> >> version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
>> >>
>> >> The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is underway
>> >> about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), so I think
>> >> there are only two possible timelines:
>> >>
>> >> A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then
>> tools
>> >> released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
>> >>
>> >> B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
>> >> cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to
>> pin
>> >> to cordova-android 4)
>> >>
>> >> In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which
>> >> works.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Leo
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is
>> an
>> >> > icons change?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being
>> >> moved? I
>> >> > > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should
>> happen
>> >> > after
>> >> > > the release?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
>> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
>> >> couple
>> >> > > > other changes).
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
>> >> > > > objections.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <
>> agrieve@chromium.org
>> >> >
>> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll
>> have
>> >> this
>> >> > > > done
>> >> > > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> Sweet!
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> @purplecabbage
>> >> > > > >> risingj.com
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
>> >> agrieve@chromium.org
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > Let's do it!
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <
>> bowserj@gmail.com>
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until
>> >> after
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
>> >> > > technically
>> >> > > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months,
>> >> that
>> >> > > > should
>> >> > > > >> buy
>> >> > > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.
>> >> Getting
>> >> > > > >> Cordova to
>> >> > > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a
>> non-trivial
>> >> > task.
>> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we
>> >> start
>> >> > > > voting
>> >> > > > >> on
>> >> > > > >> > an
>> >> > > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
>> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> >> > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> >> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > Here's issues:
>> >> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
>> >> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716
>> (whitelist)
>> >> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
>> >> > > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
>> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
>> >> > > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
>> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not
>> >> pin
>> >> > the
>> >> > > > >> > version
>> >> > > > >> > > in
>> >> > > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are
>> >> done.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks
>> that
>> >> need
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > > be
>> >> > > > >> > > done.
>> >> > > > >> > > > I
>> >> > > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA
>> Items
>> >> to
>> >> > > help
>> >> > > > >> > track
>> >> > > > >> > > > and
>> >> > > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
>> >> > > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
>> >> > > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
>> >> > includes
>> >> > > > >> <plugin
>> >> > > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> >> > > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
>> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
>> >> > plugin,
>> >> > > > if
>> >> > > > >> > not a
>> >> > > > >> > > > > vote,
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing"
>> while we
>> >> > > start
>> >> > > > >> the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > official
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
>> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> >> > > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
>> >> > direction.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
>> >> > > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
>> >> > publishing
>> >> > > > >> > > whitelist
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default
>> project
>> >> > > template
>> >> > > > >> > > includes
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />).
>> Maybe
>> >> > let's
>> >> > > > do
>> >> > > > >> a RC
>> >> > > > >> > > > while
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > we
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks,
>> that
>> >> > would
>> >> > > > be
>> >> > > > >> > > > awesome.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
>> >> > > > shazron@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
>> >> > people
>> >> > > > >> (that
>> >> > > > >> > are
>> >> > > > >> > > > not
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
>> >> > > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and
>> we're
>> >> > > waiting
>> >> > > > >> on a
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think
>> we
>> >> > should
>> >> > > > go
>> >> > > > >> to
>> >> > > > >> > a
>> >> > > > >> > > > vote
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> thread
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin
>> and a
>> >> > new
>> >> > > > >> style
>> >> > > > >> > > > > whitelist
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly
>> delaying
>> >> this
>> >> > > > >> release
>> >> > > > >> > > > > because
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > of
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms,
>> especially
>> >> > since
>> >> > > > we
>> >> > > > >> > > already
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil
>> >> Khandelwal <
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
>> >> > > > implementing
>> >> > > > >> the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > default
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either
>> every
>> >> > app
>> >> > > > >> would
>> >> > > > >> > be
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> required to
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
>> >> smart
>> >> > > > >> defaults
>> >> > > > >> > > in
>> >> > > > >> > > > > the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
>> >> > override
>> >> > > > >> them.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
>> >> > > conclusions.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
>> >> > Release
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon
>> can
>> >> we
>> >> > > get a
>> >> > > > >> VOTE
>> >> > > > >> > > > > thread
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > started
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew
>> Grieve <
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took
>> >> longer
>> >> > > than
>> >> > > > I
>> >> > > > >> > would
>> >> > > > >> > > > > have
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
>> >> > FileReader
>> >> > > > >> > triggers
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
>> >> > > whitelists,
>> >> > > > >> so
>> >> > > > >> > > once
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > that's
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian
>> >> Clelland <
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
>> >> > > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
>> >> > related
>> >> > > > >> > thread.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
>> >> Default
>> >> > > > (aka
>> >> > > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all
>> network
>> >> > > requests
>> >> > > > >> > > > shouldn't
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > it?
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist
>> then
>> >> :)
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first
>> discussion
>> >> of
>> >> > > > 4.0.0
>> >> > > > >> for
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > Android.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
>> >> discussion
>> >> > is
>> >> > > > >> much
>> >> > > > >> > > > longer
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > than
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the
>> default
>> >> > > > >> > > > no-network-access
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> policy
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the
>> >> implemented
>> >> > > > policy
>> >> > > > >> > was:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision,
>> >> then
>> >> > we
>> >> > > > >> should
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > certainly
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> do
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it
>> >> would
>> >> > be
>> >> > > a
>> >> > > > >> real
>> >> > > > >> > > > > problem
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > to
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it
>> >> right.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
>> >> > blocking
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > >> > > > release,
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> it's
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented
>> the
>> >> core
>> >> > > > hooks
>> >> > > > >> > > > > correctly
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > so
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job,
>> >> and
>> >> > > that
>> >> > > > >> > people
>> >> > > > >> > > > who
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> don't
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a
>> >> better
>> >> > > one.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin,
>> >> required
>> >> > for
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also
>> building
>> >> for
>> >> > > > >> > > cordova-ios
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the
>> ios-native
>> >> > > portions
>> >> > > > >> of
>> >> > > > >> > the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't
>> interfere
>> >> with
>> >> > > an
>> >> > > > >> ios
>> >> > > > >> > app
>> >> > > > >> > > > if
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > it's
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of
>> that
>> >> > > repo.)
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM,
>> Shazron <
>> >> > > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
>> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be
>> >> fixed so
>> >> > > > that
>> >> > > > >> it
>> >> > > > >> > > > > compiles
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> on
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be
>> a
>> >> > > problem
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > >> > fix
>> >> > > > >> > > > this
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > at
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable
>> here
>> >> > > related
>> >> > > > >> to
>> >> > > > >> > the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > compile
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM,
>> Darryl
>> >> > Pogue
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe
>> Bowser
>> >> <
>> >> > > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist
>> changes
>> >> are
>> >> > > > >> what's
>> >> > > > >> > > > holding
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > up
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only
>> thing
>> >> > > that's
>> >> > > > >> > holding
>> >> > > > >> > > > up
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > this
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
>> >> Andrew
>> >> > > > >> Grieve <
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to
>> finish
>> >> with
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > > >> > > > whitelist
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> changes
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
>> >> > plugins
>> >> > > > >> > released
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > before
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> we
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't
>> be
>> >> > able
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > > >> > write
>> >> > > > >> > > an
>> >> > > > >> > > > > app
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> that
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
>> >> proving
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > > >> be a
>> >> > > > >> > > bit
>> >> > > > >> > > > > of a
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> pain
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master,
>> >> and
>> >> > > need
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > >> > > > install
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > the
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order
>> to
>> >> make
>> >> > > > >> network
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > requests.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
>> >> everything
>> >> > > > >> seems to
>> >> > > > >> > > > work.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
>> >> legacy-whitelist
>> >> > > > >> plugin
>> >> > > > >> > > > > generates
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with
>> cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> >> ,
>> >> > so
>> >> > > > >> now I
>> >> > > > >> > > > can't
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > just
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > run
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split
>> the
>> >> > > > >> platforms up
>> >> > > > >> > > and
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
>> >> between.
>> >> > > If
>> >> > > > >> > someone
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > makes a
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets
>> the
>> >> > > > plugin,
>> >> > > > >> it
>> >> > > > >> > > will
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> appear
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not
>> >> actually
>> >> > > > >> function
>> >> > > > >> > > > > properly
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> due
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > to
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release,
>> so
>> >> pain
>> >> > > is
>> >> > > > >> > > somewhat
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> expected
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the
>> case
>> >> > > where
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released
>> >> and
>> >> > > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > is
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
>> >> > > > ------------------------------
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
>> dev-unsubscribe@cordova.
>> >> > > > apache.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
>> >> > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > > > --
>> >> > > > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
>> >> > > > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
>> >> > > > >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> > > >
>> >> > > > >> > >
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Steven Gill <st...@gmail.com>.
I am going to start a discuss thread for plugins release later today.

I'm thinking:

1) Android release
2) Plugins release
3) Tools release 5.0.0 with cordova-wp8, cordova-windows and
cordova-android all updated, npm fetching, fixed --save workflow, etc.

Whitelist plugins have both been released already. So they won't be
included in the plugins release unless we have made changes to them and
want to release updated versions.


On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Michal - Good point about npm vs github for links. We tend to tweak docs
> post npm publish, so I've changed the blog post links to github ones.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > The plugins being on npm will likely be a bump. Perhaps we should mention
> > that it requires the latest CLI (not yet release one), and defer the blog
> > post until CLI is released?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Moving from [VOTE] thread:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > But why is the meta csp tag required?
> >>
> >>
> >> It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can
> restrict
> >> more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. (streaming
> >> <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo <leo.treggiari@intel.com
> >
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
> >> >
> >> > The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist in
> >> > order
> >> > to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
> >> >
> >> > Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
> >> >
> >> > The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
> >> > Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
> >> > Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
> >> >
> >>
> >> This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI points
> >> to
> >> cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be able to
> release
> >> a
> >> version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
> >>
> >> The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is underway
> >> about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), so I think
> >> there are only two possible timelines:
> >>
> >> A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then
> tools
> >> released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
> >>
> >> B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
> >> cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to
> pin
> >> to cordova-android 4)
> >>
> >> In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which
> >> works.
> >>
> >>
> >> > It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
> >> >
> >> > Leo
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is an
> >> > icons change?
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being
> >> moved? I
> >> > > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen
> >> > after
> >> > > the release?
> >> > >
> >> > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
> >> couple
> >> > > > other changes).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
> >> > > > objections.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> >> >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have
> >> this
> >> > > > done
> >> > > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Sweet!
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> @purplecabbage
> >> > > > >> risingj.com
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
> >> agrieve@chromium.org
> >> > >
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > Let's do it!
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <
> bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until
> >> after
> >> > the
> >> > > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
> >> > > technically
> >> > > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months,
> >> that
> >> > > > should
> >> > > > >> buy
> >> > > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.
> >> Getting
> >> > > > >> Cordova to
> >> > > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial
> >> > task.
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we
> >> start
> >> > > > voting
> >> > > > >> on
> >> > > > >> > an
> >> > > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > Here's issues:
> >> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> >> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716
> (whitelist)
> >> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> >> > > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >> > > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not
> >> pin
> >> > the
> >> > > > >> > version
> >> > > > >> > > in
> >> > > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are
> >> done.
> >> > > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that
> >> need
> >> > > to
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > >> > > done.
> >> > > > >> > > > I
> >> > > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA
> Items
> >> to
> >> > > help
> >> > > > >> > track
> >> > > > >> > > > and
> >> > > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> >> > > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> >> > > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
> >> > includes
> >> > > > >> <plugin
> >> > > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
> >> > plugin,
> >> > > > if
> >> > > > >> > not a
> >> > > > >> > > > > vote,
> >> > > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> >> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while
> we
> >> > > start
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > > > > official
> >> > > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> >> > > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
> >> > direction.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
> >> > publishing
> >> > > > >> > > whitelist
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project
> >> > > template
> >> > > > >> > > includes
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe
> >> > let's
> >> > > > do
> >> > > > >> a RC
> >> > > > >> > > > while
> >> > > > >> > > > > > we
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks,
> that
> >> > would
> >> > > > be
> >> > > > >> > > > awesome.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
> >> > > > shazron@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
> >> > people
> >> > > > >> (that
> >> > > > >> > are
> >> > > > >> > > > not
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> >> > > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and
> we're
> >> > > waiting
> >> > > > >> on a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we
> >> > should
> >> > > > go
> >> > > > >> to
> >> > > > >> > a
> >> > > > >> > > > vote
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> thread
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin
> and a
> >> > new
> >> > > > >> style
> >> > > > >> > > > > whitelist
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying
> >> this
> >> > > > >> release
> >> > > > >> > > > > because
> >> > > > >> > > > > > of
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms,
> especially
> >> > since
> >> > > > we
> >> > > > >> > > already
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil
> >> Khandelwal <
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
> >> > > > implementing
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > > > > default
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either
> every
> >> > app
> >> > > > >> would
> >> > > > >> > be
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> required to
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
> >> smart
> >> > > > >> defaults
> >> > > > >> > > in
> >> > > > >> > > > > the
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
> >> > override
> >> > > > >> them.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don't think that thread closed with any
> >> > > conclusions.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
> >> > Release
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can
> >> we
> >> > > get a
> >> > > > >> VOTE
> >> > > > >> > > > > thread
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > started
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew
> Grieve <
> >> > > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took
> >> longer
> >> > > than
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > >> > would
> >> > > > >> > > > > have
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
> >> > FileReader
> >> > > > >> > triggers
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
> >> > > whitelists,
> >> > > > >> so
> >> > > > >> > > once
> >> > > > >> > > > > > that's
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian
> >> Clelland <
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> >> > > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
> >> > related
> >> > > > >> > thread.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
> >> Default
> >> > > > (aka
> >> > > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network
> >> > > requests
> >> > > > >> > > > shouldn't
> >> > > > >> > > > > > it?
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then
> >> :)
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first
> discussion
> >> of
> >> > > > 4.0.0
> >> > > > >> for
> >> > > > >> > > > > > Android.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
> >> discussion
> >> > is
> >> > > > >> much
> >> > > > >> > > > longer
> >> > > > >> > > > > > than
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the
> default
> >> > > > >> > > > no-network-access
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> policy
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the
> >> implemented
> >> > > > policy
> >> > > > >> > was:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision,
> >> then
> >> > we
> >> > > > >> should
> >> > > > >> > > > > > certainly
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> do
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it
> >> would
> >> > be
> >> > > a
> >> > > > >> real
> >> > > > >> > > > > problem
> >> > > > >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it
> >> right.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
> >> > blocking
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > >> > > > release,
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> it's
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the
> >> core
> >> > > > hooks
> >> > > > >> > > > > correctly
> >> > > > >> > > > > > so
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job,
> >> and
> >> > > that
> >> > > > >> > people
> >> > > > >> > > > who
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> don't
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a
> >> better
> >> > > one.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin,
> >> required
> >> > for
> >> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also
> building
> >> for
> >> > > > >> > > cordova-ios
> >> > > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native
> >> > > portions
> >> > > > >> of
> >> > > > >> > the
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere
> >> with
> >> > > an
> >> > > > >> ios
> >> > > > >> > app
> >> > > > >> > > > if
> >> > > > >> > > > > > it's
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of
> that
> >> > > repo.)
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM,
> Shazron <
> >> > > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be
> >> fixed so
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > >> it
> >> > > > >> > > > > compiles
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> on
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
> >> > > problem
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > >> > fix
> >> > > > >> > > > this
> >> > > > >> > > > > > at
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable
> here
> >> > > related
> >> > > > >> to
> >> > > > >> > the
> >> > > > >> > > > > > compile
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM,
> Darryl
> >> > Pogue
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe
> Bowser
> >> <
> >> > > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist
> changes
> >> are
> >> > > > >> what's
> >> > > > >> > > > holding
> >> > > > >> > > > > > up
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only
> thing
> >> > > that's
> >> > > > >> > holding
> >> > > > >> > > > up
> >> > > > >> > > > > > this
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
> >> Andrew
> >> > > > >> Grieve <
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish
> >> with
> >> > > the
> >> > > > >> > > > whitelist
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> changes
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
> >> > plugins
> >> > > > >> > released
> >> > > > >> > > > > > before
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> we
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't
> be
> >> > able
> >> > > to
> >> > > > >> > write
> >> > > > >> > > an
> >> > > > >> > > > > app
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
> >> proving
> >> > > to
> >> > > > >> be a
> >> > > > >> > > bit
> >> > > > >> > > > > of a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> pain
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master,
> >> and
> >> > > need
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > >> > > > install
> >> > > > >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to
> >> make
> >> > > > >> network
> >> > > > >> > > > > > requests.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
> >> everything
> >> > > > >> seems to
> >> > > > >> > > > work.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
> >> legacy-whitelist
> >> > > > >> plugin
> >> > > > >> > > > > generates
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with
> cordova-ios@3.8.0
> >> ,
> >> > so
> >> > > > >> now I
> >> > > > >> > > > can't
> >> > > > >> > > > > > just
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > run
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split
> the
> >> > > > >> platforms up
> >> > > > >> > > and
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
> >> between.
> >> > > If
> >> > > > >> > someone
> >> > > > >> > > > > > makes a
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets
> the
> >> > > > plugin,
> >> > > > >> it
> >> > > > >> > > will
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> appear
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not
> >> actually
> >> > > > >> function
> >> > > > >> > > > > properly
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> due
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > to
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so
> >> pain
> >> > > is
> >> > > > >> > > somewhat
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> expected
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the
> case
> >> > > where
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released
> >> and
> >> > > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> >> > > > >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
> >> > > > ------------------------------
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> >> > > > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.
> >> > > > apache.org
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> >> > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > > > --
> >> > > > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
> >> > > > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> > > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Michal - Good point about npm vs github for links. We tend to tweak docs
post npm publish, so I've changed the blog post links to github ones.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> The plugins being on npm will likely be a bump. Perhaps we should mention
> that it requires the latest CLI (not yet release one), and defer the blog
> post until CLI is released?
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Moving from [VOTE] thread:
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > But why is the meta csp tag required?
>>
>>
>> It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can restrict
>> more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. (streaming
>> <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo <le...@intel.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
>> >
>> > The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist in
>> > order
>> > to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
>> >
>> > Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
>> >
>> > The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
>> > Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
>> > Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
>> >
>>
>> This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI points
>> to
>> cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be able to release
>> a
>> version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
>>
>> The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is underway
>> about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), so I think
>> there are only two possible timelines:
>>
>> A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then tools
>> released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
>>
>> B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
>> cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to pin
>> to cordova-android 4)
>>
>> In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which
>> works.
>>
>>
>> > It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
>> >
>> > Leo
>> >
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is an
>> > icons change?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being
>> moved? I
>> > > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen
>> > after
>> > > the release?
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
>> couple
>> > > > other changes).
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
>> > > > objections.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
>> >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have
>> this
>> > > > done
>> > > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Sweet!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> @purplecabbage
>> > > > >> risingj.com
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
>> agrieve@chromium.org
>> > >
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > Let's do it!
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until
>> after
>> > the
>> > > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
>> > > technically
>> > > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months,
>> that
>> > > > should
>> > > > >> buy
>> > > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.
>> Getting
>> > > > >> Cordova to
>> > > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial
>> > task.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we
>> start
>> > > > voting
>> > > > >> on
>> > > > >> > an
>> > > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > Here's issues:
>> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
>> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
>> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
>> > > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
>> > > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not
>> pin
>> > the
>> > > > >> > version
>> > > > >> > > in
>> > > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are
>> done.
>> > > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that
>> need
>> > > to
>> > > > be
>> > > > >> > > done.
>> > > > >> > > > I
>> > > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items
>> to
>> > > help
>> > > > >> > track
>> > > > >> > > > and
>> > > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
>> > > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
>> > > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
>> > includes
>> > > > >> <plugin
>> > > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
>> > plugin,
>> > > > if
>> > > > >> > not a
>> > > > >> > > > > vote,
>> > > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
>> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we
>> > > start
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > > > > official
>> > > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
>> > > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
>> > direction.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
>> > > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
>> > publishing
>> > > > >> > > whitelist
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project
>> > > template
>> > > > >> > > includes
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe
>> > let's
>> > > > do
>> > > > >> a RC
>> > > > >> > > > while
>> > > > >> > > > > > we
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that
>> > would
>> > > > be
>> > > > >> > > > awesome.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
>> > > > shazron@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
>> > people
>> > > > >> (that
>> > > > >> > are
>> > > > >> > > > not
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
>> > > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're
>> > > waiting
>> > > > >> on a
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we
>> > should
>> > > > go
>> > > > >> to
>> > > > >> > a
>> > > > >> > > > vote
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> thread
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a
>> > new
>> > > > >> style
>> > > > >> > > > > whitelist
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying
>> this
>> > > > >> release
>> > > > >> > > > > because
>> > > > >> > > > > > of
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially
>> > since
>> > > > we
>> > > > >> > > already
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil
>> Khandelwal <
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
>> > > > implementing
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > > > > default
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every
>> > app
>> > > > >> would
>> > > > >> > be
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> required to
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
>> smart
>> > > > >> defaults
>> > > > >> > > in
>> > > > >> > > > > the
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
>> > override
>> > > > >> them.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
>> > > conclusions.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
>> > Release
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can
>> we
>> > > get a
>> > > > >> VOTE
>> > > > >> > > > > thread
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > started
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> > > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took
>> longer
>> > > than
>> > > > I
>> > > > >> > would
>> > > > >> > > > > have
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
>> > FileReader
>> > > > >> > triggers
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
>> > > whitelists,
>> > > > >> so
>> > > > >> > > once
>> > > > >> > > > > > that's
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian
>> Clelland <
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
>> > > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
>> > related
>> > > > >> > thread.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
>> Default
>> > > > (aka
>> > > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network
>> > > requests
>> > > > >> > > > shouldn't
>> > > > >> > > > > > it?
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then
>> :)
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion
>> of
>> > > > 4.0.0
>> > > > >> for
>> > > > >> > > > > > Android.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
>> discussion
>> > is
>> > > > >> much
>> > > > >> > > > longer
>> > > > >> > > > > > than
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
>> > > > >> > > > no-network-access
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> policy
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the
>> implemented
>> > > > policy
>> > > > >> > was:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision,
>> then
>> > we
>> > > > >> should
>> > > > >> > > > > > certainly
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> do
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it
>> would
>> > be
>> > > a
>> > > > >> real
>> > > > >> > > > > problem
>> > > > >> > > > > > to
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it
>> right.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
>> > blocking
>> > > > the
>> > > > >> > > > release,
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> it's
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the
>> core
>> > > > hooks
>> > > > >> > > > > correctly
>> > > > >> > > > > > so
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job,
>> and
>> > > that
>> > > > >> > people
>> > > > >> > > > who
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> don't
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a
>> better
>> > > one.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin,
>> required
>> > for
>> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building
>> for
>> > > > >> > > cordova-ios
>> > > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native
>> > > portions
>> > > > >> of
>> > > > >> > the
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere
>> with
>> > > an
>> > > > >> ios
>> > > > >> > app
>> > > > >> > > > if
>> > > > >> > > > > > it's
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that
>> > > repo.)
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
>> > > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be
>> fixed so
>> > > > that
>> > > > >> it
>> > > > >> > > > > compiles
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> on
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
>> > > problem
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> > fix
>> > > > >> > > > this
>> > > > >> > > > > > at
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here
>> > > related
>> > > > >> to
>> > > > >> > the
>> > > > >> > > > > > compile
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl
>> > Pogue
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser
>> <
>> > > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes
>> are
>> > > > >> what's
>> > > > >> > > > holding
>> > > > >> > > > > > up
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing
>> > > that's
>> > > > >> > holding
>> > > > >> > > > up
>> > > > >> > > > > > this
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
>> Andrew
>> > > > >> Grieve <
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish
>> with
>> > > the
>> > > > >> > > > whitelist
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> changes
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
>> > plugins
>> > > > >> > released
>> > > > >> > > > > > before
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> we
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be
>> > able
>> > > to
>> > > > >> > write
>> > > > >> > > an
>> > > > >> > > > > app
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> that
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
>> proving
>> > > to
>> > > > >> be a
>> > > > >> > > bit
>> > > > >> > > > > of a
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> pain
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master,
>> and
>> > > need
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> > > > install
>> > > > >> > > > > > the
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to
>> make
>> > > > >> network
>> > > > >> > > > > > requests.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
>> everything
>> > > > >> seems to
>> > > > >> > > > work.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
>> legacy-whitelist
>> > > > >> plugin
>> > > > >> > > > > generates
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> ,
>> > so
>> > > > >> now I
>> > > > >> > > > can't
>> > > > >> > > > > > just
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > run
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
>> > > > >> platforms up
>> > > > >> > > and
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
>> between.
>> > > If
>> > > > >> > someone
>> > > > >> > > > > > makes a
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the
>> > > > plugin,
>> > > > >> it
>> > > > >> > > will
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> appear
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not
>> actually
>> > > > >> function
>> > > > >> > > > > properly
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> due
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > to
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so
>> pain
>> > > is
>> > > > >> > > somewhat
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> expected
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case
>> > > where
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released
>> and
>> > > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> > > > >> > > > > > is
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
The plugins being on npm will likely be a bump. Perhaps we should mention
that it requires the latest CLI (not yet release one), and defer the blog
post until CLI is released?

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Moving from [VOTE] thread:
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > But why is the meta csp tag required?
>
>
> It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can restrict
> more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. (streaming
> <audio> and <video> tags, for instance).
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo <le...@intel.com>
>  wrote:
>
> > Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
> >
> > The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist in
> > order
> > to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
> >
> > Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
> >
> > The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
> > Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
> > Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
> >
>
> This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI points to
> cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be able to release a
> version of the CLI which downloads it by default.
>
> The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is underway
> about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), so I think
> there are only two possible timelines:
>
> A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then tools
> released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).
>
> B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
> cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to pin
> to cordova-android 4)
>
> In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which
> works.
>
>
> > It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
> >
> > Leo
> >
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is an
> > icons change?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being
> moved? I
> > > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen
> > after
> > > the release?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a
> couple
> > > > other changes).
> > > >
> > > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
> > > > objections.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have
> this
> > > > done
> > > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Sweet!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> @purplecabbage
> > > > >> risingj.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Let's do it!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after
> > the
> > > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
> > > technically
> > > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that
> > > > should
> > > > >> buy
> > > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting
> > > > >> Cordova to
> > > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial
> > task.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start
> > > > voting
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> > an
> > > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Here's issues:
> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> > > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> > > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin
> > the
> > > > >> > version
> > > > >> > > in
> > > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are
> done.
> > > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that
> need
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > >> > > done.
> > > > >> > > > I
> > > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items
> to
> > > help
> > > > >> > track
> > > > >> > > > and
> > > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> > > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> > > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
> > includes
> > > > >> <plugin
> > > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
> > plugin,
> > > > if
> > > > >> > not a
> > > > >> > > > > vote,
> > > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we
> > > start
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > > > official
> > > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> > > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
> > direction.
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
> > publishing
> > > > >> > > whitelist
> > > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project
> > > template
> > > > >> > > includes
> > > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe
> > let's
> > > > do
> > > > >> a RC
> > > > >> > > > while
> > > > >> > > > > > we
> > > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > >> > > > awesome.
> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
> > > > shazron@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
> > people
> > > > >> (that
> > > > >> > are
> > > > >> > > > not
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> > > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're
> > > waiting
> > > > >> on a
> > > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we
> > should
> > > > go
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > a
> > > > >> > > > vote
> > > > >> > > > > > >> thread
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a
> > new
> > > > >> style
> > > > >> > > > > whitelist
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying
> this
> > > > >> release
> > > > >> > > > > because
> > > > >> > > > > > of
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially
> > since
> > > > we
> > > > >> > > already
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil
> Khandelwal <
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
> > > > implementing
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > > > default
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every
> > app
> > > > >> would
> > > > >> > be
> > > > >> > > > > > >> required to
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have
> smart
> > > > >> defaults
> > > > >> > > in
> > > > >> > > > > the
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
> > override
> > > > >> them.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
> > > conclusions.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
> > Release
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we
> > > get a
> > > > >> VOTE
> > > > >> > > > > thread
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > started
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer
> > > than
> > > > I
> > > > >> > would
> > > > >> > > > > have
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
> > FileReader
> > > > >> > triggers
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
> > > whitelists,
> > > > >> so
> > > > >> > > once
> > > > >> > > > > > that's
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland
> <
> > > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> > > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
> > related
> > > > >> > thread.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?
> Default
> > > > (aka
> > > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network
> > > requests
> > > > >> > > > shouldn't
> > > > >> > > > > > it?
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion
> of
> > > > 4.0.0
> > > > >> for
> > > > >> > > > > > Android.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist
> discussion
> > is
> > > > >> much
> > > > >> > > > longer
> > > > >> > > > > > than
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> > > > >> > > > no-network-access
> > > > >> > > > > > >> policy
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the
> implemented
> > > > policy
> > > > >> > was:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then
> > we
> > > > >> should
> > > > >> > > > > > certainly
> > > > >> > > > > > >> do
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would
> > be
> > > a
> > > > >> real
> > > > >> > > > > problem
> > > > >> > > > > > to
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
> > blocking
> > > > the
> > > > >> > > > release,
> > > > >> > > > > > >> it's
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the
> core
> > > > hooks
> > > > >> > > > > correctly
> > > > >> > > > > > so
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and
> > > that
> > > > >> > people
> > > > >> > > > who
> > > > >> > > > > > >> don't
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a
> better
> > > one.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required
> > for
> > > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building
> for
> > > > >> > > cordova-ios
> > > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native
> > > portions
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere
> with
> > > an
> > > > >> ios
> > > > >> > app
> > > > >> > > > if
> > > > >> > > > > > it's
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that
> > > repo.)
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> > > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed
> so
> > > > that
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> > > > > compiles
> > > > >> > > > > > >> on
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
> > > problem
> > > > to
> > > > >> > fix
> > > > >> > > > this
> > > > >> > > > > > at
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here
> > > related
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > the
> > > > >> > > > > > compile
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl
> > Pogue
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> > > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes
> are
> > > > >> what's
> > > > >> > > > holding
> > > > >> > > > > > up
> > > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing
> > > that's
> > > > >> > holding
> > > > >> > > > up
> > > > >> > > > > > this
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM
> Andrew
> > > > >> Grieve <
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish
> with
> > > the
> > > > >> > > > whitelist
> > > > >> > > > > > >> changes
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
> > plugins
> > > > >> > released
> > > > >> > > > > > before
> > > > >> > > > > > >> we
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be
> > able
> > > to
> > > > >> > write
> > > > >> > > an
> > > > >> > > > > app
> > > > >> > > > > > >> that
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is
> proving
> > > to
> > > > >> be a
> > > > >> > > bit
> > > > >> > > > > of a
> > > > >> > > > > > >> pain
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and
> > > need
> > > > to
> > > > >> > > > install
> > > > >> > > > > > the
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to
> make
> > > > >> network
> > > > >> > > > > > requests.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed,
> everything
> > > > >> seems to
> > > > >> > > > work.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the
> legacy-whitelist
> > > > >> plugin
> > > > >> > > > > generates
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0
> ,
> > so
> > > > >> now I
> > > > >> > > > can't
> > > > >> > > > > > just
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > run
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
> > > > >> platforms up
> > > > >> > > and
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in
> between.
> > > If
> > > > >> > someone
> > > > >> > > > > > makes a
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the
> > > > plugin,
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> > > will
> > > > >> > > > > > >> appear
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually
> > > > >> function
> > > > >> > > > > properly
> > > > >> > > > > > >> due
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so
> pain
> > > is
> > > > >> > > somewhat
> > > > >> > > > > > >> expected
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case
> > > where
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> > > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> > > > >> > > > > > is
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.
> > > > apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > > --
> > > > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Ian Clelland <ic...@chromium.org>.
Moving from [VOTE] thread:

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Serge Huijben <s....@gmail.com> wrote:

> But why is the meta csp tag required?


It's not required, only recommended. It's more secure, as it can restrict
more network access than the whitelist itself is capable of. (streaming
<audio> and <video> tags, for instance).

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Treggiari, Leo <le...@intel.com>
 wrote:

> Another question, based upon my understanding, which must be wrong!
>
> The 4.0.0 Android Release will require the cordova-plugin-whitelist in
> order
> to get a whitelist implemented correctly.
>
> Given its name (dash-style) it is only available as an node component.
>
> The is no released CLI that knows how to fetch from npm?
> Or does 4.3, even though I don't see it in the release notes?
> Even so, there are many previous CLI releases which will not work?
>

This is at least partly resolved by the fact that no released CLI points to
cordova-android 4.0.0. Once 4.0.0 is released. we will be able to release a
version of the CLI which downloads it by default.

The whitelist plugins are published already, and discussion is underway
about voting/releasing cordova-lib (and accompanying tools), so I think
there are only two possible timelines:

A) whitelist plugins released, then cordova-android 4 released, then tools
released (supports NPM plugins and Android 4).

B) plugins released, then tools released (supports NPM plugins), then
cordova-android 4 released, then a small bump of tools is released (to pin
to cordova-android 4)

In either case, users of the released CLI always have a version which works.


> It would be good for the release notes to explain the situation.
>
> Leo
>


On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is an
> icons change?
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being moved? I
> > have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen
> after
> > the release?
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a couple
> > > other changes).
> > >
> > > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
> > > objections.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have this
> > > done
> > > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Sweet!
> > > >>
> > > >> @purplecabbage
> > > >> risingj.com
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
> >
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Let's do it!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after
> the
> > > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
> > technically
> > > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that
> > > should
> > > >> buy
> > > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting
> > > >> Cordova to
> > > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial
> task.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start
> > > voting
> > > >> on
> > > >> > an
> > > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Here's issues:
> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> > > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> > > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > >> csantana23@gmail.com
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin
> the
> > > >> > version
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
> > > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need
> > to
> > > be
> > > >> > > done.
> > > >> > > > I
> > > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to
> > help
> > > >> > track
> > > >> > > > and
> > > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> > > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> > > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template
> includes
> > > >> <plugin
> > > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist
> plugin,
> > > if
> > > >> > not a
> > > >> > > > > vote,
> > > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> > > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we
> > start
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > official
> > > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> > > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that
> direction.
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide,
> publishing
> > > >> > > whitelist
> > > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project
> > template
> > > >> > > includes
> > > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe
> let's
> > > do
> > > >> a RC
> > > >> > > > while
> > > >> > > > > > we
> > > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that
> would
> > > be
> > > >> > > > awesome.
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
> > > shazron@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so
> people
> > > >> (that
> > > >> > are
> > > >> > > > not
> > > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> > > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're
> > waiting
> > > >> on a
> > > >> > > > > > >> discussion
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we
> should
> > > go
> > > >> to
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > > > vote
> > > >> > > > > > >> thread
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a
> new
> > > >> style
> > > >> > > > > whitelist
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this
> > > >> release
> > > >> > > > > because
> > > >> > > > > > of
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially
> since
> > > we
> > > >> > > already
> > > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
> > > implementing
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > default
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every
> app
> > > >> would
> > > >> > be
> > > >> > > > > > >> required to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart
> > > >> defaults
> > > >> > > in
> > > >> > > > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > platform
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to
> override
> > > >> them.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
> > conclusions.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0
> Release
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we
> > get a
> > > >> VOTE
> > > >> > > > > thread
> > > >> > > > > > >> > started
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer
> > than
> > > I
> > > >> > would
> > > >> > > > > have
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android
> FileReader
> > > >> > triggers
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
> > whitelists,
> > > >> so
> > > >> > > once
> > > >> > > > > > that's
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> > > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin
> related
> > > >> > thread.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default
> > > (aka
> > > >> > > > > no-plugin)
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network
> > requests
> > > >> > > > shouldn't
> > > >> > > > > > it?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of
> > > 4.0.0
> > > >> for
> > > >> > > > > > Android.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion
> is
> > > >> much
> > > >> > > > longer
> > > >> > > > > > than
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> > > >> > > > no-network-access
> > > >> > > > > > >> policy
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented
> > > policy
> > > >> > was:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then
> we
> > > >> should
> > > >> > > > > > certainly
> > > >> > > > > > >> do
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would
> be
> > a
> > > >> real
> > > >> > > > > problem
> > > >> > > > > > to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's
> blocking
> > > the
> > > >> > > > release,
> > > >> > > > > > >> it's
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core
> > > hooks
> > > >> > > > > correctly
> > > >> > > > > > so
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and
> > that
> > > >> > people
> > > >> > > > who
> > > >> > > > > > >> don't
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better
> > one.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required
> for
> > > >> > > > > > cordova-android
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
> > > >> > > cordova-ios
> > > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native
> > portions
> > > >> of
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with
> > an
> > > >> ios
> > > >> > app
> > > >> > > > if
> > > >> > > > > > it's
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that
> > repo.)
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> > > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so
> > > that
> > > >> it
> > > >> > > > > compiles
> > > >> > > > > > >> on
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
> > problem
> > > to
> > > >> > fix
> > > >> > > > this
> > > >> > > > > > at
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here
> > related
> > > >> to
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > > > compile
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl
> Pogue
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> > > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are
> > > >> what's
> > > >> > > > holding
> > > >> > > > > > up
> > > >> > > > > > >> the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing
> > that's
> > > >> > holding
> > > >> > > > up
> > > >> > > > > > this
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew
> > > >> Grieve <
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with
> > the
> > > >> > > > whitelist
> > > >> > > > > > >> changes
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist
> plugins
> > > >> > released
> > > >> > > > > > before
> > > >> > > > > > >> we
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be
> able
> > to
> > > >> > write
> > > >> > > an
> > > >> > > > > app
> > > >> > > > > > >> that
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving
> > to
> > > >> be a
> > > >> > > bit
> > > >> > > > > of a
> > > >> > > > > > >> pain
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and
> > need
> > > to
> > > >> > > > install
> > > >> > > > > > the
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make
> > > >> network
> > > >> > > > > > requests.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything
> > > >> seems to
> > > >> > > > work.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist
> > > >> plugin
> > > >> > > > > generates
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0,
> so
> > > >> now I
> > > >> > > > can't
> > > >> > > > > > just
> > > >> > > > > > >> > run
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
> > > >> platforms up
> > > >> > > and
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between.
> > If
> > > >> > someone
> > > >> > > > > > makes a
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the
> > > plugin,
> > > >> it
> > > >> > > will
> > > >> > > > > > >> appear
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually
> > > >> function
> > > >> > > > > properly
> > > >> > > > > > >> due
> > > >> > > > > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain
> > is
> > > >> > > somewhat
> > > >> > > > > > >> expected
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case
> > where
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> > > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> > > >> > > > > > is
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > ------------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.
> > > apache.org
> > > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >> >
> > > >> > > > > > >>
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > > >
> > > >> > > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > > > --
> > > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > >> > > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>.
Splashscreens was mentioned, icons was not.  I don't think there is an
icons change?

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being moved? I
> have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen after
> the release?
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a couple
> > other changes).
> >
> > I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
> > objections.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have this
> > done
> > > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Sweet!
> > >>
> > >> @purplecabbage
> > >> risingj.com
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Let's do it!
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
> > >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still
> technically
> > >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that
> > should
> > >> buy
> > >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting
> > >> Cordova to
> > >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start
> > voting
> > >> on
> > >> > an
> > >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Here's issues:
> > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> > >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> > >> RELEASENOTES.md)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > >> csantana23@gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the
> > >> > version
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
> > >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need
> to
> > be
> > >> > > done.
> > >> > > > I
> > >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to
> help
> > >> > track
> > >> > > > and
> > >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> > >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> > >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template includes
> > >> <plugin
> > >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > >> > iclelland@chromium.org
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin,
> > if
> > >> > not a
> > >> > > > > vote,
> > >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> > >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we
> start
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > official
> > >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> > >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing
> > >> > > whitelist
> > >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project
> template
> > >> > > includes
> > >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's
> > do
> > >> a RC
> > >> > > > while
> > >> > > > > > we
> > >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would
> > be
> > >> > > > awesome.
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
> > shazron@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people
> > >> (that
> > >> > are
> > >> > > > not
> > >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> > >> > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> > >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're
> waiting
> > >> on a
> > >> > > > > > >> discussion
> > >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should
> > go
> > >> to
> > >> > a
> > >> > > > vote
> > >> > > > > > >> thread
> > >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new
> > >> style
> > >> > > > > whitelist
> > >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this
> > >> release
> > >> > > > > because
> > >> > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since
> > we
> > >> > > already
> > >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> > >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> > >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
> > implementing
> > >> the
> > >> > > > > default
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app
> > >> would
> > >> > be
> > >> > > > > > >> required to
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart
> > >> defaults
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > >> > platform
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override
> > >> them.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any
> conclusions.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we
> get a
> > >> VOTE
> > >> > > > > thread
> > >> > > > > > >> > started
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer
> than
> > I
> > >> > would
> > >> > > > > have
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader
> > >> > triggers
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re:
> whitelists,
> > >> so
> > >> > > once
> > >> > > > > > that's
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> > >> > > > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> > >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related
> > >> > thread.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default
> > (aka
> > >> > > > > no-plugin)
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network
> requests
> > >> > > > shouldn't
> > >> > > > > > it?
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of
> > 4.0.0
> > >> for
> > >> > > > > > Android.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is
> > >> much
> > >> > > > longer
> > >> > > > > > than
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> > >> > > > no-network-access
> > >> > > > > > >> policy
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented
> > policy
> > >> > was:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we
> > >> should
> > >> > > > > > certainly
> > >> > > > > > >> do
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be
> a
> > >> real
> > >> > > > > problem
> > >> > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking
> > the
> > >> > > > release,
> > >> > > > > > >> it's
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core
> > hooks
> > >> > > > > correctly
> > >> > > > > > so
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and
> that
> > >> > people
> > >> > > > who
> > >> > > > > > >> don't
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better
> one.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
> > >> > > > > > cordova-android
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
> > >> > > cordova-ios
> > >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native
> portions
> > >> of
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > >> whitelist
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with
> an
> > >> ios
> > >> > app
> > >> > > > if
> > >> > > > > > it's
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that
> repo.)
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> > >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so
> > that
> > >> it
> > >> > > > > compiles
> > >> > > > > > >> on
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a
> problem
> > to
> > >> > fix
> > >> > > > this
> > >> > > > > > at
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here
> related
> > >> to
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > compile
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> > >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are
> > >> what's
> > >> > > > holding
> > >> > > > > > up
> > >> > > > > > >> the
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing
> that's
> > >> > holding
> > >> > > > up
> > >> > > > > > this
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew
> > >> Grieve <
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with
> the
> > >> > > > whitelist
> > >> > > > > > >> changes
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins
> > >> > released
> > >> > > > > > before
> > >> > > > > > >> we
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able
> to
> > >> > write
> > >> > > an
> > >> > > > > app
> > >> > > > > > >> that
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving
> to
> > >> be a
> > >> > > bit
> > >> > > > > of a
> > >> > > > > > >> pain
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and
> need
> > to
> > >> > > > install
> > >> > > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make
> > >> network
> > >> > > > > > requests.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything
> > >> seems to
> > >> > > > work.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist
> > >> plugin
> > >> > > > > generates
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so
> > >> now I
> > >> > > > can't
> > >> > > > > > just
> > >> > > > > > >> > run
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
> > >> platforms up
> > >> > > and
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between.
> If
> > >> > someone
> > >> > > > > > makes a
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the
> > plugin,
> > >> it
> > >> > > will
> > >> > > > > > >> appear
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually
> > >> function
> > >> > > > > properly
> > >> > > > > > >> due
> > >> > > > > > >> > to
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain
> is
> > >> > > somewhat
> > >> > > > > > >> expected
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case
> where
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> > >> > > > > > is
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
> > ------------------------------
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > >> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > >> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.
> > apache.org
> > >> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > >> > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >> >
> > >> > > > > > >>
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --
> > >> > > > > Carlos Santana
> > >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>.
So, wasn't there a change regarding icons and spashscreens being moved? I
have no idea if we want to add that, or if adding that should happen after
the release?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 7:09 PM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a couple
> other changes).
>
> I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
> objections.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have this
> done
> > shortly and would prefer it lands?)
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sweet!
> >>
> >> @purplecabbage
> >> risingj.com
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Let's do it!
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
> >> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still technically
> >> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that
> should
> >> buy
> >> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting
> >> Cordova to
> >> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.
> >> > >
> >> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start
> voting
> >> on
> >> > an
> >> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Here's issues:
> >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> >> RELEASENOTES.md)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >> csantana23@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the
> >> > version
> >> > > in
> >> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
> >> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need to
> be
> >> > > done.
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to help
> >> > track
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> >> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> >> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template includes
> >> <plugin
> >> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin,
> if
> >> > not a
> >> > > > > vote,
> >> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> >> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we start
> >> the
> >> > > > > official
> >> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> >> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing
> >> > > whitelist
> >> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project template
> >> > > includes
> >> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's
> do
> >> a RC
> >> > > > while
> >> > > > > > we
> >> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would
> be
> >> > > > awesome.
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <
> shazron@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people
> >> (that
> >> > are
> >> > > > not
> >> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> >> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're waiting
> >> on a
> >> > > > > > >> discussion
> >> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should
> go
> >> to
> >> > a
> >> > > > vote
> >> > > > > > >> thread
> >> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new
> >> style
> >> > > > > whitelist
> >> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this
> >> release
> >> > > > > because
> >> > > > > > of
> >> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since
> we
> >> > > already
> >> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> >> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
> >> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> >> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches
> implementing
> >> the
> >> > > > > default
> >> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app
> >> would
> >> > be
> >> > > > > > >> required to
> >> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart
> >> defaults
> >> > > in
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >> > platform
> >> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override
> >> them.
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any conclusions.
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> >> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> >> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> >> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we get a
> >> VOTE
> >> > > > > thread
> >> > > > > > >> > started
> >> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> >> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer than
> I
> >> > would
> >> > > > > have
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader
> >> > triggers
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re: whitelists,
> >> so
> >> > > once
> >> > > > > > that's
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
> >> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> >> > > > > > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> >> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related
> >> > thread.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default
> (aka
> >> > > > > no-plugin)
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network requests
> >> > > > shouldn't
> >> > > > > > it?
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of
> 4.0.0
> >> for
> >> > > > > > Android.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is
> >> much
> >> > > > longer
> >> > > > > > than
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> >> > > > no-network-access
> >> > > > > > >> policy
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented
> policy
> >> > was:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we
> >> should
> >> > > > > > certainly
> >> > > > > > >> do
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be a
> >> real
> >> > > > > problem
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking
> the
> >> > > > release,
> >> > > > > > >> it's
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core
> hooks
> >> > > > > correctly
> >> > > > > > so
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and that
> >> > people
> >> > > > who
> >> > > > > > >> don't
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better one.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
> >> > > > > > cordova-android
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
> >> > > cordova-ios
> >> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native portions
> >> of
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > >> whitelist
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with an
> >> ios
> >> > app
> >> > > > if
> >> > > > > > it's
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that repo.)
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> >> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so
> that
> >> it
> >> > > > > compiles
> >> > > > > > >> on
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a problem
> to
> >> > fix
> >> > > > this
> >> > > > > > at
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here related
> >> to
> >> > the
> >> > > > > > compile
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> >> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are
> >> what's
> >> > > > holding
> >> > > > > > up
> >> > > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing that's
> >> > holding
> >> > > > up
> >> > > > > > this
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew
> >> Grieve <
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with the
> >> > > > whitelist
> >> > > > > > >> changes
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins
> >> > released
> >> > > > > > before
> >> > > > > > >> we
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able to
> >> > write
> >> > > an
> >> > > > > app
> >> > > > > > >> that
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving to
> >> be a
> >> > > bit
> >> > > > > of a
> >> > > > > > >> pain
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and need
> to
> >> > > > install
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make
> >> network
> >> > > > > > requests.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything
> >> seems to
> >> > > > work.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist
> >> plugin
> >> > > > > generates
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so
> >> now I
> >> > > > can't
> >> > > > > > just
> >> > > > > > >> > run
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
> >> platforms up
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between. If
> >> > someone
> >> > > > > > makes a
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the
> plugin,
> >> it
> >> > > will
> >> > > > > > >> appear
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually
> >> function
> >> > > > > properly
> >> > > > > > >> due
> >> > > > > > >> > to
> >> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain is
> >> > > somewhat
> >> > > > > > >> expected
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case where
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> >> > > > > > is
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> ------------------------------
> ------------------------------
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
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> >> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
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> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > >
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> apache.org
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> >> > > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Carlos Santana
> >> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
CB-8684 is now merged and I've updated the targetSdk (and made a couple
other changes).

I'll start the release process in the morning as long as there no
objections.


On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have this done
> shortly and would prefer it lands?)
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sweet!
>>
>> @purplecabbage
>> risingj.com
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Let's do it!
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
>> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still technically
>> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that should
>> buy
>> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting
>> Cordova to
>> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.
>> > >
>> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start voting
>> on
>> > an
>> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Here's issues:
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
>> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
>> RELEASENOTES.md)
>> > > >
>> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
>> csantana23@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the
>> > version
>> > > in
>> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
>> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need to be
>> > > done.
>> > > > I
>> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to help
>> > track
>> > > > and
>> > > > > know what's left for release something.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > - upgrade guide,
>> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
>> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template includes
>> <plugin
>> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > >
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin, if
>> > not a
>> > > > > vote,
>> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
>> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we start
>> the
>> > > > > official
>> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
>> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
>> > > agrieve@chromium.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing
>> > > whitelist
>> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project template
>> > > includes
>> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's do
>> a RC
>> > > > while
>> > > > > > we
>> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would be
>> > > > awesome.
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people
>> (that
>> > are
>> > > > not
>> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
>> > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're waiting
>> on a
>> > > > > > >> discussion
>> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should go
>> to
>> > a
>> > > > vote
>> > > > > > >> thread
>> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new
>> style
>> > > > > whitelist
>> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this
>> release
>> > > > > because
>> > > > > > of
>> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since we
>> > > already
>> > > > > > >> > pluginized
>> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
>> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
>> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches implementing
>> the
>> > > > > default
>> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app
>> would
>> > be
>> > > > > > >> required to
>> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart
>> defaults
>> > > in
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > >> > platform
>> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override
>> them.
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any conclusions.
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
>> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
>> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
>> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we get a
>> VOTE
>> > > > > thread
>> > > > > > >> > started
>> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
>> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer than I
>> > would
>> > > > > have
>> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader
>> > triggers
>> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re: whitelists,
>> so
>> > > once
>> > > > > > that's
>> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
>> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
>> > > > > > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
>> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related
>> > thread.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default (aka
>> > > > > no-plugin)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network requests
>> > > > shouldn't
>> > > > > > it?
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of 4.0.0
>> for
>> > > > > > Android.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is
>> much
>> > > > longer
>> > > > > > than
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
>> > > > > > >> > >> > and
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
>> > > > no-network-access
>> > > > > > >> policy
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented policy
>> > was:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we
>> should
>> > > > > > certainly
>> > > > > > >> do
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be a
>> real
>> > > > > problem
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking the
>> > > > release,
>> > > > > > >> it's
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core hooks
>> > > > > correctly
>> > > > > > so
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and that
>> > people
>> > > > who
>> > > > > > >> don't
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better one.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
>> > > > > > cordova-android
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
>> > > cordova-ios
>> > > > > > 3.8.0.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > look
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native portions
>> of
>> > the
>> > > > > > >> whitelist
>> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with an
>> ios
>> > app
>> > > > if
>> > > > > > it's
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that repo.)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
>> > > > shazron@gmail.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so that
>> it
>> > > > > compiles
>> > > > > > >> on
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a problem to
>> > fix
>> > > > this
>> > > > > > at
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
>> > > > > > >> > >> > or
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here related
>> to
>> > the
>> > > > > > compile
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
>> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are
>> what's
>> > > > holding
>> > > > > > up
>> > > > > > >> the
>> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing that's
>> > holding
>> > > > up
>> > > > > > this
>> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew
>> Grieve <
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with the
>> > > > whitelist
>> > > > > > >> changes
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
>> > > > > > >> > >> > have
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins
>> > released
>> > > > > > before
>> > > > > > >> we
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
>> > > > > > >> > >> > do
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able to
>> > write
>> > > an
>> > > > > app
>> > > > > > >> that
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving to
>> be a
>> > > bit
>> > > > > of a
>> > > > > > >> pain
>> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and need to
>> > > > install
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make
>> network
>> > > > > > requests.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything
>> seems to
>> > > > work.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist
>> plugin
>> > > > > generates
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so
>> now I
>> > > > can't
>> > > > > > just
>> > > > > > >> > run
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the
>> platforms up
>> > > and
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between. If
>> > someone
>> > > > > > makes a
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the plugin,
>> it
>> > > will
>> > > > > > >> appear
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually
>> function
>> > > > > properly
>> > > > > > >> due
>> > > > > > >> > to
>> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain is
>> > > somewhat
>> > > > > > >> expected
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case where
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
>> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
>> > > > > > is
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
>> > > > > > >> > >> > can
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
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>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
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>> > > > > > >> > >> > >
>> > > > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > > > >> > >>
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > > > >> >
>> > > > >
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>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Carlos Santana
>> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
I'll start on it once CB-8684 lands (Tony - assuming you'll have this done
shortly and would prefer it lands?)

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jesse <pu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sweet!
>
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Let's do it!
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
> > > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still technically
> > > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that should
> buy
> > > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting Cordova
> to
> > > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.
> > >
> > > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start voting
> on
> > an
> > > RC for this?   What do people think?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here's issues:
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write
> RELEASENOTES.md)
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <
> csantana23@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the
> > version
> > > in
> > > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
> > > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need to be
> > > done.
> > > > I
> > > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to help
> > track
> > > > and
> > > > > know what's left for release something.
> > > > >
> > > > > - upgrade guide,
> > > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> > > > > - and making it so that the default project template includes
> <plugin
> > > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin, if
> > not a
> > > > > vote,
> > > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> > > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we start the
> > > > > official
> > > > > > release process for the plugins?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> > > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing
> > > whitelist
> > > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project template
> > > includes
> > > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's do a
> RC
> > > > while
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would be
> > > > awesome.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people (that
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > > > >> > us) can test...
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're waiting
> on a
> > > > > > >> discussion
> > > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should go
> to
> > a
> > > > vote
> > > > > > >> thread
> > > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new style
> > > > > whitelist
> > > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this
> release
> > > > > because
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since we
> > > already
> > > > > > >> > pluginized
> > > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches implementing
> the
> > > > > default
> > > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app would
> > be
> > > > > > >> required to
> > > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart
> defaults
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > platform
> > > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override
> them.
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any conclusions.
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> > > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> > > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we get a
> VOTE
> > > > > thread
> > > > > > >> > started
> > > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer than I
> > would
> > > > > have
> > > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader
> > triggers
> > > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re: whitelists, so
> > > once
> > > > > > that's
> > > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related
> > thread.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default (aka
> > > > > no-plugin)
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network requests
> > > > shouldn't
> > > > > > it?
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of 4.0.0
> for
> > > > > > Android.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is much
> > > > longer
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> > > > > > >> > >> > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> > > > no-network-access
> > > > > > >> policy
> > > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented policy
> > was:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> > > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we
> should
> > > > > > certainly
> > > > > > >> do
> > > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be a
> real
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking the
> > > > release,
> > > > > > >> it's
> > > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core hooks
> > > > > correctly
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and that
> > people
> > > > who
> > > > > > >> don't
> > > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better one.
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
> > > > > > cordova-android
> > > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
> > > cordova-ios
> > > > > > 3.8.0.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> > > > > > >> > >> > look
> > > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native portions of
> > the
> > > > > > >> whitelist
> > > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> > > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with an ios
> > app
> > > > if
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that repo.)
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> > > > shazron@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so that
> it
> > > > > compiles
> > > > > > >> on
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a problem to
> > fix
> > > > this
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> > > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here related to
> > the
> > > > > > compile
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> > > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are what's
> > > > holding
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing that's
> > holding
> > > > up
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > >> > >> > release?
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew
> Grieve <
> > > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with the
> > > > whitelist
> > > > > > >> changes
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> > > > > > >> > >> > have
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins
> > released
> > > > > > before
> > > > > > >> we
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> > > > > > >> > >> > do
> > > > > > >> > >> > > a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able to
> > write
> > > an
> > > > > app
> > > > > > >> that
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> > > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving to be
> a
> > > bit
> > > > > of a
> > > > > > >> pain
> > > > > > >> > >> > point.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and need to
> > > > install
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make
> network
> > > > > > requests.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything seems
> to
> > > > work.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist plugin
> > > > > generates
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so now
> I
> > > > can't
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > >> > run
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the platforms
> up
> > > and
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between. If
> > someone
> > > > > > makes a
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the plugin,
> it
> > > will
> > > > > > >> appear
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually function
> > > > > properly
> > > > > > >> due
> > > > > > >> > to
> > > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain is
> > > somewhat
> > > > > > >> expected
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case where
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> > > > > > >> > >> > can
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Jesse <pu...@gmail.com>.
Sweet!

@purplecabbage
risingj.com

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Let's do it!
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
> > release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still technically
> > obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that should buy
> > us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting Cordova to
> > work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.
> >
> > Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start voting on
> an
> > RC for this?   What do people think?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Here's issues:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write RELEASENOTES.md)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the
> version
> > in
> > > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
> > > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need to be
> > done.
> > > I
> > > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to help
> track
> > > and
> > > > know what's left for release something.
> > > >
> > > > - upgrade guide,
> > > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> > > > - and making it so that the default project template includes <plugin
> > > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <
> iclelland@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin, if
> not a
> > > > vote,
> > > > > to be able to vote on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> > > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we start the
> > > > official
> > > > > release process for the plugins?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> > > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing
> > whitelist
> > > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project template
> > includes
> > > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's do a RC
> > > while
> > > > > we
> > > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would be
> > > awesome.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people (that
> are
> > > not
> > > > > >> > us) can test...
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <
> bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're waiting on a
> > > > > >> discussion
> > > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should go to
> a
> > > vote
> > > > > >> thread
> > > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new style
> > > > whitelist
> > > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this release
> > > > because
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since we
> > already
> > > > > >> > pluginized
> > > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches implementing the
> > > > default
> > > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app would
> be
> > > > > >> required to
> > > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart defaults
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > >> > platform
> > > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override them.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any conclusions.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> > > > > >> > >> To: dev
> > > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we get a VOTE
> > > > thread
> > > > > >> > started
> > > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer than I
> would
> > > > have
> > > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader
> triggers
> > > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re: whitelists, so
> > once
> > > > > that's
> > > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related
> thread.
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default (aka
> > > > no-plugin)
> > > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network requests
> > > shouldn't
> > > > > it?
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> > > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of 4.0.0 for
> > > > > Android.
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is much
> > > longer
> > > > > than
> > > > > >> > >> > > that,
> > > > > >> > >> > and
> > > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> > > no-network-access
> > > > > >> policy
> > > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> > > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented policy
> was:
> > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> > > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> > > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we should
> > > > > certainly
> > > > > >> do
> > > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be a real
> > > > problem
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking the
> > > release,
> > > > > >> it's
> > > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core hooks
> > > > correctly
> > > > > so
> > > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and that
> people
> > > who
> > > > > >> don't
> > > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better one.
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
> > > > > cordova-android
> > > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
> > cordova-ios
> > > > > 3.8.0.
> > > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> > > > > >> > >> > look
> > > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native portions of
> the
> > > > > >> whitelist
> > > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> > > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with an ios
> app
> > > if
> > > > > it's
> > > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that repo.)
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> > > shazron@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so that it
> > > > compiles
> > > > > >> on
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a problem to
> fix
> > > this
> > > > > at
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> > > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here related to
> the
> > > > > compile
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> > > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are what's
> > > holding
> > > > > up
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing that's
> holding
> > > up
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> > >> > release?
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew Grieve <
> > > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with the
> > > whitelist
> > > > > >> changes
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> > > > > >> > >> > have
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins
> released
> > > > > before
> > > > > >> we
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> > > > > >> > >> > do
> > > > > >> > >> > > a
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able to
> write
> > an
> > > > app
> > > > > >> that
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> > > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving to be a
> > bit
> > > > of a
> > > > > >> pain
> > > > > >> > >> > point.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and need to
> > > install
> > > > > the
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make network
> > > > > requests.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything seems to
> > > work.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist plugin
> > > > generates
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so now I
> > > can't
> > > > > just
> > > > > >> > run
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the platforms up
> > and
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between. If
> someone
> > > > > makes a
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the plugin, it
> > will
> > > > > >> appear
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually function
> > > > properly
> > > > > >> due
> > > > > >> > to
> > > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain is
> > somewhat
> > > > > >> expected
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case where
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> > > > > is
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> > > > > >> > >> > can
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > >> dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >> > >> > ---------
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
> > > > dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >> > >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail:
> > > > > dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> >
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release

Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Let's do it!

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, I think we should put off the embedder's guide until after the
> release.  A lot of it has changed, and since we're still technically
> obligated to support the 3.x release tree for six months, that should buy
> us some time to figure out how that is going to work.  Getting Cordova to
> work with a vanilla Android Studio project is a non-trivial task.
>
> Given that everything else appears to be done, should we start voting on an
> RC for this?   What do people think?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Here's issues:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8715 (docs)
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8716 (whitelist)
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-8717 (write RELEASENOTES.md)
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Carlos Santana <cs...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would say let's start RC testing and voting, But not pin the version
> in
> > > Cordova CLI until the tasks that Andrew mentioned are done.
> > > Andrew can you create the JIRA Items for the tasks that need to be
> done.
> > I
> > > thought there was a discussion about creating JIRA Items to help track
> > and
> > > know what's left for release something.
> > >
> > > - upgrade guide,
> > > - publishing whitelist plugins,
> > > - and making it so that the default project template includes <plugin
> > > name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Ian Clelland <iclelland@chromium.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We'll probably need at least an RC for the whitelist plugin, if not a
> > > vote,
> > > > to be able to vote on this.
> > > >
> > > > Or can we just include instructions like "Use
> > > > cordova-plugin-whitelist@f70b1bc for testing" while we start the
> > > official
> > > > release process for the plugins?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Ian Clelland <
> iclelland@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1 -- Let's get this out the door :)
> > > > > I'll see what I can get done to move it in that direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Everything's ready afaik (minus upgrade guide, publishing
> whitelist
> > > > >> plugins, and making it so that the default project template
> includes
> > > > >> <plugin name="cordova-plugin-whitelist" />). Maybe let's do a RC
> > while
> > > > we
> > > > >> wait on these things being finished up?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If anyone wants to take on any of these tasks, that would be
> > awesome.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > +1 for vote thread, let's get this thing out so people (that are
> > not
> > > > >> > us) can test...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > OK, this is a three month old thread, and we're waiting on a
> > > > >> discussion
> > > > >> > > before we release something? I really think we should go to a
> > vote
> > > > >> thread
> > > > >> > > now that we have a legacy whitelist plugin and a new style
> > > whitelist
> > > > >> > > plugin.  We shouldn't keep constantly delaying this release
> > > because
> > > > of
> > > > >> > > what's happening on other platforms, especially since we
> already
> > > > >> > pluginized
> > > > >> > > the whitelist.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Can we please release soon?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:20 PM Nikhil Khandelwal <
> > > > >> > nikhilkh@microsoft.com>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> I know we discussed a couple of approaches implementing the
> > > default
> > > > >> > >> whitelist policy for Android/iOS - either every app would be
> > > > >> required to
> > > > >> > >> include the whitelist plugin or have it have smart defaults
> in
> > > the
> > > > >> > platform
> > > > >> > >> implementation and the plugin being able to override them.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> I don’t think that thread closed with any conclusions.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> > >> Nikhil
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > >> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > > > >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:23 AM
> > > > >> > >> To: dev
> > > > >> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Cordova-Android 4.0.0 Release
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> OK, so right now it's just docs? How soon can we get a VOTE
> > > thread
> > > > >> > started
> > > > >> > >> for 4.0.0?
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:47 AM Andrew Grieve <
> > > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> > mobilespec is now working again... Took longer than I would
> > > have
> > > > >> > >> > liked, but did you know that on Android FileReader triggers
> > > > >> > >> > shouldInterceptRequest() with Blob URLs!?
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > Separate thread is already happening re: whitelists, so
> once
> > > > that's
> > > > >> > >> > figured out, it's just docs afaict.
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Ian Clelland <
> > > > >> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Jesse <
> > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > We should start a new whitelist plugin related thread.
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > Why is a plugin blocking a release?  Default (aka
> > > no-plugin)
> > > > >> > >> > > > behavior should be to allow all network requests
> > shouldn't
> > > > it?
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > Well, that just might be a blacklist then :)
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > >   This thread is a
> > > > >> > >> > > > month long, and not the first discussion of 4.0.0 for
> > > > Android.
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > Seriously, though -- the whitelist discussion is much
> > longer
> > > > than
> > > > >> > >> > > that,
> > > > >> > >> > and
> > > > >> > >> > > this isn't the first time that the default
> > no-network-access
> > > > >> policy
> > > > >> > >> > > has been brought up:
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > (Here's the first question, from *July*:
> > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/t4vj4saisem2mcgw
> > > > >> > >> > > Here's where I mentioned what the implemented policy was:
> > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/s4necfnh4hnblpjm
> > > > >> > >> > > And in another discussion:
> > > > >> > >> > > http://markmail.org/message/ap7syhqysizmsvrz)
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > If we want to reconsider that decision, then we should
> > > > certainly
> > > > >> do
> > > > >> > >> > > so before we cut a release. I think it would be a real
> > > problem
> > > > to
> > > > >> > >> > > change it afterwards, so let's get it right.
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > Also, it's not the plugin itself that's blocking the
> > release,
> > > > >> it's
> > > > >> > >> > > us making sure that we've implemented the core hooks
> > > correctly
> > > > so
> > > > >> > >> > > that the plugin can actually do its job, and that people
> > who
> > > > >> don't
> > > > >> > >> > > want that particular plugin can make a better one.
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > (It is also an issue that a plugin, required for
> > > > cordova-android
> > > > >> > >> > > 4.0.0, breaks apps which are also building for
> cordova-ios
> > > > 3.8.0.
> > > > >> > >> > > I'll take a
> > > > >> > >> > look
> > > > >> > >> > > at that, and either remove the ios-native portions of the
> > > > >> whitelist
> > > > >> > >> > plugin,
> > > > >> > >> > > or neuter it so that it doesn't interfere with an ios app
> > if
> > > > it's
> > > > >> > >> > > not on the unplug-whitelist branch of that repo.)
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > Ian
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > >> > >> > > > risingj.com
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Shazron <
> > shazron@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > legacy-whitelist-plugin should be fixed so that it
> > > compiles
> > > > >> on
> > > > >> > >> > > > > cordova-ios@3.8.0. It shouldn't be a problem to fix
> > this
> > > > at
> > > > >> > >> > > > > compile
> > > > >> > >> > or
> > > > >> > >> > > > > run-time (whichever is applicable here related to the
> > > > compile
> > > > >> > >> > > > > error)
> > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Darryl Pogue
> > > > >> > >> > > > > <dv...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > >> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > On 2 March 2015 at 13:37, Joe Bowser <
> > > bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> So, right now the whitelist changes are what's
> > holding
> > > > up
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > >> > 4.0.0
> > > > >> > >> > > > > release
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> now?  Is this really the only thing that's holding
> > up
> > > > this
> > > > >> > >> > release?
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >> On Wed Feb 25 2015 at 1:18:26 PM Andrew Grieve <
> > > > >> > >> > > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > >> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> I think we'll also need to finish with the
> > whitelist
> > > > >> changes
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> &
> > > > >> > >> > have
> > > > >> > >> > > > > both
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> the legacy and new-way whitelist plugins released
> > > > before
> > > > >> we
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> can
> > > > >> > >> > do
> > > > >> > >> > > a
> > > > >> > >> > > > > 4.0.0
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> release (otherwise you wouldn't be able to write
> an
> > > app
> > > > >> that
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> hits
> > > > >> > >> > > the
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>> network)
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > Just FYI, the whitelist stuff is proving to be a
> bit
> > > of a
> > > > >> pain
> > > > >> > >> > point.
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > I'm using cordova-android@master, and need to
> > install
> > > > the
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > legacy-whitelist plugin in order to make network
> > > > requests.
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > Once the plugin is installed, everything seems to
> > work.
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > The problem is that the legacy-whitelist plugin
> > > generates
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > compile errors with cordova-ios@3.8.0, so now I
> > can't
> > > > just
> > > > >> > run
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > `cordova build`, I need to split the platforms up
> and
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > install/uninstall the plugin in between. If someone
> > > > makes a
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > dev build for Android and forgets the plugin, it
> will
> > > > >> appear
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > to build successfully but not actually function
> > > properly
> > > > >> due
> > > > >> > to
> > > > >> > >> the whitelist.
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > I know, this is all pre-release, so pain is
> somewhat
> > > > >> expected
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > right now. I'm worried about the case where
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > cordova-android@4.0.0 is released and
> > > cordova-ios@3.8.0
> > > > is
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > still current, and how people
> > > > >> > >> > can
> > > > >> > >> > > > > > avoid whitelist breakage there.
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > >> > >> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > >
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> > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > >> > > >
> > > > >> > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> >
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Carlos Santana
> > > <cs...@gmail.com>
> > >
> >
>