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Posted to dev@turbine.apache.org by Georg Kallidis <gk...@cedis.fu-berlin.de> on 2017/05/10 06:37:10 UTC

Preparing Turbine 4.0 Release + New Logo

Hi,

- Turbine Release.

 I am in the process to prepare a release for Fulcrum Security (v1.1.1). I 
found two adaptors OpenSymphony and  (Turbine 2.3). I might update the 
latter, but I think this is superseded by the sub module Fulcrum Security 
Torque with Turbine subsection. 

Is this right? 

I already updated Turbine Web App Trunk (1.0.2-SNAPSHOT) to test the 
current proceedings ..

The Release process pipeline then would be IMO:  Fulcrum Security 1.1.1 -> 
 Turbine 4.0 -> Turbine 4 Web App 1.0.2.

Anything missing here?

- Logo. We should then update the Logo as well to the new Apache feathers. 
Does anyone know how to do this best? A Powered By Turbine Logo does 
already exist

https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/poweredBy/pb-turbine.jpg. 
Should we use it?

Best regards, Georg






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Re: Preparing Turbine 4.0 Release + New Logo

Posted by Thomas Vandahl <tv...@apache.org>.
On 10.05.17 08:37, Georg Kallidis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> - Turbine Release.
> 
>  I am in the process to prepare a release for Fulcrum Security (v1.1.1). I 
> found two adaptors OpenSymphony and  (Turbine 2.3). I might update the 
> latter, but I think this is superseded by the sub module Fulcrum Security 
> Torque with Turbine subsection. 
> 
> Is this right? 

I don't know about the opensymphony part. I guess this had something to
do with Scarab. I believe these modules both can go away.

> I already updated Turbine Web App Trunk (1.0.2-SNAPSHOT) to test the 
> current proceedings ..
> 
> The Release process pipeline then would be IMO:  Fulcrum Security 1.1.1 -> 
>  Turbine 4.0 -> Turbine 4 Web App 1.0.2.
> 
> Anything missing here?
> 
> - Logo. We should then update the Logo as well to the new Apache feathers. 
> Does anyone know how to do this best? A Powered By Turbine Logo does 
> already exist
> 
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/poweredBy/pb-turbine.jpg. 
> Should we use it?

The original logo source is available as a SVG file in
site/xdocs/images. I already tried to fix stuff but couldn't get it to
render correctly. I'll try again with Affinity Designer.
There is also a different powered-by logo available there.

Bye, Thomas

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Re: Re: Antwort: Re: .. new Logo

Posted by Georg Kallidis <gk...@cedis.fu-berlin.de>.
I´ll check in an updated version - smaller feather and downscaled png file 
(500px). 

@directions press kit

I understand from the press kit trademark politics link 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/:

"Using the Apache Foo or similar project graphic logos: 
"Unlike ASF's word trademarks (such as "Apache" and "Foo"), our graphic 
logos are also licensed to the public under the Apache License. That 
license permits you to create derivative works of those logos, as with any 
other Apache copyrighted work. However, trademark law does not allow you 
to apply any "confusingly similar" derivative logo to software if a 
relevant consumer would likely be confused by that use of that derivative 
logo."

On the same page:

"Using the Apache feather logo to identify ASF and link to www.apache.org
 : 
"You needn't ask us for permission to use the Apache feather logo ... on 
your own website solely as a hyperlink to www.apache.org or to an 
appropriate Apache project, or in other materials, such as presentations 
and slides, solely as a means to refer to the ASF itself. 
All other uses of the Apache feather logo must be approved in writing by 
the VP, Apache Brand Management or by a member of the Brand Management 
Committee." 

Using the feather to identify our (Apache) project ("appropriate Apache 
project") - not even necessarily the ASF itself - would be IMO no problem.
Combining Turbine character + the Apache feather is not some "confusingly 
similar" thing - being an established Apache project we (any Apache 
project) have a certain freedom in creating our Apache Project Logo - 
using the feather simply shows that Turbine is one of many Apache 
projects! It may have a reference to the feather or not (Hadoop has even 
the special case with a "hidden" feather" currently 
http://hadoop.apache.org/). 

Though, of course we could use the version you provided as well having an 
Apache feather with the text more strictly separated. 


But may be there are some other opinions/comments out there?


Best regards, Georg
 



Von:    Thomas Vandahl <tv...@apache.org>
An:     Turbine Developers List <de...@turbine.apache.org>
Datum:  15.05.2017 20:13
Betreff:        Re: Antwort: Re: .. new Logo



On 15.05.17 17:03, Georg Kallidis wrote:
> I´ve checked in another attempt based on yours from me, with slightly 
> tilted feather with the additional intent to be similar to the old 
version 
> (svg and png, backed up the png as well). Maven has a tilt as well, but 
in 
> the other direction ;-)

I thought from the directions in the press kit that only unchanged logos
are allowed. Don't you think the picture is a bit to large? It is 2500
pixels wide. In any case, I'd prefer a smaller feather.

Bye, Thomas


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Re: Antwort: Re: .. new Logo

Posted by Thomas Vandahl <tv...@apache.org>.
On 15.05.17 17:03, Georg Kallidis wrote:
> I´ve checked in another attempt based on yours from me, with slightly 
> tilted feather with the additional intent to be similar to the old version 
> (svg and png, backed up the png as well). Maven has a tilt as well, but in 
> the other direction ;-)

I thought from the directions in the press kit that only unchanged logos
are allowed. Don't you think the picture is a bit to large? It is 2500
pixels wide. In any case, I'd prefer a smaller feather.

Bye, Thomas


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Antwort: Re: .. new Logo

Posted by Georg Kallidis <gk...@cedis.fu-berlin.de>.
Hi Thomas,
 
I´ve checked in another attempt based on yours from me, with slightly 
tilted feather with the additional intent to be similar to the old version 
(svg and png, backed up the png as well). Maven has a tilt as well, but in 
the other direction ;-)

Best regards, Georg



Von:    Thomas Vandahl <tv...@apache.org>
An:     Turbine Developers List <de...@turbine.apache.org>
Datum:  14.05.2017 13:16
Betreff:        Re: Preparing Turbine 4.0 Release + New Logo



On 10.05.17 08:37, Georg Kallidis wrote:
> - Logo. We should then update the Logo as well to the new Apache 
feathers. 
> Does anyone know how to do this best? A Powered By Turbine Logo does 
> already exist

I made an attempt using the new feather logo and changed the font to
Open Sans (Apache licensed). My proposal is committed in
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/turbine/site/xdocs/images/turbine-project.*



Please review and comment. IANAD(esigner).

Bye, Thomas




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Re: Preparing Turbine 4.0 Release + New Logo

Posted by Thomas Vandahl <tv...@apache.org>.
On 10.05.17 08:37, Georg Kallidis wrote:
> - Logo. We should then update the Logo as well to the new Apache feathers. 
> Does anyone know how to do this best? A Powered By Turbine Logo does 
> already exist

I made an attempt using the new feather logo and changed the font to
Open Sans (Apache licensed). My proposal is committed in
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/turbine/site/xdocs/images/turbine-project.*


Please review and comment. IANAD(esigner).

Bye, Thomas




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