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Eclipse STP installation process

I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the following page
http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-200706260218/
that the prerequisites should be installed before installing eclipse STP. 
Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to successfully
install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds should I
pickup for working with CXF.
It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP installation
and configuration for CXF.

Thanks,
Durga
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Re: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Johnson Ma <jo...@iona.com>.
Hi Benson,

We don't support your use case in current STP, but it is on the way...

The current Pojo/java first support in stp is using cxf w2j and j2w tools, 
which are based on jaxb binding.
I think CXF guys are going to provide a new java2service tool to directly 
support Pojo.
That tool will generate client and server from Pojo class, and the default 
binding will be Aegis.

Once that added to cxf, we will integrate it into STP java first project 
wizard.

For the deployment side, the current stp deployment is based on individual 
project.
We are going to support user to select services from workspace, thus they 
can deploy the whole soa network in
one step. We are also working on fully integrate the STP deployment 
framework with WTP server framework.
Hence you can start/stop/debug your application deployed on servlet 
container within Eclipse.


Regards

Johnson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Benson Margulies" <bi...@basistech.com>
To: <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: Eclipse STP installation process


Johnson,

I hate to be a grump, and I'd prefer to help you refine this thing.

Here's my vision of the local architecture:

1) A large body of POJO code, including some classes that will
eventually travel across web service interfaces. My approach has been to
use Aegis on these classes to supply annotations to avoid introducing
dependencies on JAX-WS annotation classes. These POJOs are scattered
across several ordinary Eclipse java projects, and then built in
production in ant.

2) For each distinct lump of functionality, a web service defined with
JAX-WS annotations on the interface and implementation class. Each lump
has it's own Eclipse project to hold the web service.

3) A single project that pulls all of these together as a spring-wired
web application, delivering a WAR for deployment in a servlet container.

Are you trying to support the likes of me, or does my fondness for Aegis
or any other aspect of this story disqualify me? If not, no hard
feelings. If so, I'll reconstruct an installation of the whole business
and try again to feed you good bugzillas.

--benson


RE: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@basistech.com>.
Johnson,

I hate to be a grump, and I'd prefer to help you refine this thing. 

Here's my vision of the local architecture:

1) A large body of POJO code, including some classes that will
eventually travel across web service interfaces. My approach has been to
use Aegis on these classes to supply annotations to avoid introducing
dependencies on JAX-WS annotation classes. These POJOs are scattered
across several ordinary Eclipse java projects, and then built in
production in ant.

2) For each distinct lump of functionality, a web service defined with
JAX-WS annotations on the interface and implementation class. Each lump
has it's own Eclipse project to hold the web service.

3) A single project that pulls all of these together as a spring-wired
web application, delivering a WAR for deployment in a servlet container.

Are you trying to support the likes of me, or does my fondness for Aegis
or any other aspect of this story disqualify me? If not, no hard
feelings. If so, I'll reconstruct an installation of the whole business
and try again to feed you good bugzillas.

--benson


> > Hi
> >
> > The stp europa release doesn't work with latest CXF codebase since
we
> > changed the osgi buddy policy in stp and cxf plugins.
> >
> > I just published a new stp snapshot build, you can download from
> >
http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/I-I200707230251-
> > 200707230251/
> >
> > Here is the wiki page describe how to setup stp
> > http://wiki.eclipse.org/STP_Service_Creation_getting_started
> > (This wiki has been updated today to fix those broken links of
> dependency)
> >
> > Here is a demo one how to create a jax-ws app using stp and cxf.
> >
>
http://download.eclipse.org/stp/documents/europa/stp_europa_servicecreat
> io
> > n_jaxws.htm
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any problem.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Johnson
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "gdprao" <gd...@yahoo.com>
> > To: <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:09 AM
> > Subject: Eclipse STP installation process
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the
> following
> > > page
> > > http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-
> > 200706260218/
> > > that the prerequisites should be installed before installing
eclipse
> STP.
> > > Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to
> > successfully
> > > install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds
should
> I
> > > pickup for working with CXF.
> > > It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP
> > > installation
> > > and configuration for CXF.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Durga
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > > http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-installation-process-
> > tf4125577.html#a11732259
> > > Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

RE: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@basistech.com>.
My crash happens long before it gets anywhere near actual CXF code. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnson Ma [mailto:johnson.ma@iona.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:26 AM
> To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Eclipse STP installation process
> 
> Hi
> 
> The stp europa release doesn't work with latest CXF codebase since we
> changed the osgi buddy policy in stp and cxf plugins.
> 
> I just published a new stp snapshot build, you can download from
> http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/I-I200707230251-
> 200707230251/
> 
> Here is the wiki page describe how to setup stp
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/STP_Service_Creation_getting_started
> (This wiki has been updated today to fix those broken links of
dependency)
> 
> Here is a demo one how to create a jax-ws app using stp and cxf.
>
http://download.eclipse.org/stp/documents/europa/stp_europa_servicecreat
io
> n_jaxws.htm
> 
> Please let me know if you have any problem.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Johnson
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gdprao" <gd...@yahoo.com>
> To: <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:09 AM
> Subject: Eclipse STP installation process
> 
> 
> >
> > I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the
following
> > page
> > http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-
> 200706260218/
> > that the prerequisites should be installed before installing eclipse
STP.
> > Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to
> successfully
> > install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds should
I
> > pickup for working with CXF.
> > It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP
> > installation
> > and configuration for CXF.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Durga
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-installation-process-
> tf4125577.html#a11732259
> > Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Johnson Ma <jo...@iona.com>.
Hi

The stp europa release doesn't work with latest CXF codebase since we 
changed the osgi buddy policy in stp and cxf plugins.

I just published a new stp snapshot build, you can download from
http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/I-I200707230251-200707230251/

Here is the wiki page describe how to setup stp
http://wiki.eclipse.org/STP_Service_Creation_getting_started
(This wiki has been updated today to fix those broken links of dependency)

Here is a demo one how to create a jax-ws app using stp and cxf.
http://download.eclipse.org/stp/documents/europa/stp_europa_servicecreation_jaxws.htm

Please let me know if you have any problem.

Regards

Johnson


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gdprao" <gd...@yahoo.com>
To: <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 12:09 AM
Subject: Eclipse STP installation process


>
> I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the following 
> page
> http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-200706260218/
> that the prerequisites should be installed before installing eclipse STP.
> Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to successfully
> install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds should I
> pickup for working with CXF.
> It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP 
> installation
> and configuration for CXF.
>
> Thanks,
> Durga
> -- 
> View this message in context: 
> http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-installation-process-tf4125577.html#a11732259
> Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. 

Re: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Johnson Ma <jo...@iona.com>.
Hi Benson,

Please see my comments below.

Regards

Johnson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Benson Margulies" <bi...@basistech.com>
To: <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 7:54 AM
Subject: RE: Eclipse STP installation process


Here's how I installed it.

1) I installed Europa from the release download page.
2) I added GMF and STP to my update sites. The GMF page gives the link
to the update site in the place where it claims to have a link to
instructions for the update site.
Please download the stp snapshot build to work with latest CXF. 
http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/I-I200707230251-200707230251/

3) I installed the STP tools and the alarmingly enormous set of
dependencies.
STP depends on emf, gem, wtp,dtp... And it will depends more since several sca, jbi stuff will be added soon.
We are planning to modify the stp build system to create something linke stp-all-in-one, which will include stp and all its dependencies.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=197434

4) I tried to enable JAX-WS on an existing project, in spite of broken
links in the eclipse online help and inaccurate menu references.

5) It crashed with an NPE.

6) I submitted bug reports.
I tested the JAX-WS enable function with latest code from cvs. it seems fine. 
Can u try to use the snapshot version from above link?

7) I posted a complaint to the eclipse foundation newsgroup about the
reliable unreliability of these addons, which I'm sure will have a lot
of effect.


I didn't try to create a fresh, new, JAX-WS project from scratch.


RE: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@basistech.com>.
Here's how I installed it.

1) I installed Europa from the release download page.
2) I added GMF and STP to my update sites. The GMF page gives the link
to the update site in the place where it claims to have a link to
instructions for the update site.
3) I installed the STP tools and the alarmingly enormous set of
dependencies.
4) I tried to enable JAX-WS on an existing project, in spite of broken
links in the eclipse online help and inaccurate menu references.
5) It crashed with an NPE.
6) I submitted bug reports.
7) I posted a complaint to the eclipse foundation newsgroup about the
reliable unreliability of these addons, which I'm sure will have a lot
of effect.


I didn't try to create a fresh, new, JAX-WS project from scratch.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gdprao [mailto:gdprao@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:37 PM
> To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Eclipse STP installation process
> 
> 
> The STP plugin flash demo
>
http://download.eclipse.org/stp/documents/europa/stp_europa_servicecreat
io
> n_jaxws.htm
> is pretty impressive. But I could not able to install plugin because
of
> the
> broken links.  I have also tried installing it thourgh Europa
discovery
> site
> from Eclipse Software updates but all the features are not working.
> 
> 
> 
> bmargulies wrote:
> >
> > I just gave this a try. I installed the enormous raft of plugins to
get
> > the SOA/STP features installed.
> >
> > 1) The internal documentation has broken links.
> > 2) It crashed with an NPE when I tried to enable it on my existing
> > project that contains a CXF service.
> >
> > So I, for what it's worth, don't recommend bothering with it.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bim2007@basistech.com]
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:37 PM
> >> To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: Eclipse STP installation process
> >>
> >> I think, but I don't know for sure, that this thing is build upon
the
> >> WST package in Europa. I've tried to use that to set up a simple
web
> > app
> >> containing CXF services. The WST plugins are spectacularly
unstable,
> > and
> >> poorly designed, to boot. More or less the slightest misstep, and
they
> >> corrupt their .settings file and go on permanent strike.
> >>
> >> If I've misread the page you pointed to, and this thing purports to
be
> >> useful without having to deal with WST, then it might be worth
trying
> >> out.
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: gdprao [mailto:gdprao@yahoo.com]
> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:10 PM
> >> > To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Eclipse STP installation process
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the
> >> following
> >> > page
> >> > http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-
> >> > 200706260218/
> >> > that the prerequisites should be installed before installing
eclipse
> >> STP.
> >> > Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to
> >> successfully
> >> > install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds
should
> > I
> >> > pickup for working with CXF.
> >> > It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP
> >> > installation
> >> > and configuration for CXF.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Durga
> >> > --
> >> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-
> >> > installation-process-tf4125577.html#a11732259
> >> > Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-
> installation-process-tf4125577.html#a11735934
> Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


RE: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by gdprao <gd...@yahoo.com>.
The STP plugin flash demo
http://download.eclipse.org/stp/documents/europa/stp_europa_servicecreation_jaxws.htm
is pretty impressive. But I could not able to install plugin because of the
broken links.  I have also tried installing it thourgh Europa discovery site
from Eclipse Software updates but all the features are not working. 



bmargulies wrote:
> 
> I just gave this a try. I installed the enormous raft of plugins to get
> the SOA/STP features installed.
> 
> 1) The internal documentation has broken links.
> 2) It crashed with an NPE when I tried to enable it on my existing
> project that contains a CXF service.
> 
> So I, for what it's worth, don't recommend bothering with it.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bim2007@basistech.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:37 PM
>> To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Eclipse STP installation process
>> 
>> I think, but I don't know for sure, that this thing is build upon the
>> WST package in Europa. I've tried to use that to set up a simple web
> app
>> containing CXF services. The WST plugins are spectacularly unstable,
> and
>> poorly designed, to boot. More or less the slightest misstep, and they
>> corrupt their .settings file and go on permanent strike.
>> 
>> If I've misread the page you pointed to, and this thing purports to be
>> useful without having to deal with WST, then it might be worth trying
>> out.
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: gdprao [mailto:gdprao@yahoo.com]
>> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:10 PM
>> > To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
>> > Subject: Eclipse STP installation process
>> >
>> >
>> > I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the
>> following
>> > page
>> > http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-
>> > 200706260218/
>> > that the prerequisites should be installed before installing eclipse
>> STP.
>> > Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to
>> successfully
>> > install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds should
> I
>> > pickup for working with CXF.
>> > It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP
>> > installation
>> > and configuration for CXF.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Durga
>> > --
>> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-
>> > installation-process-tf4125577.html#a11732259
>> > Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@basistech.com>.
I just gave this a try. I installed the enormous raft of plugins to get
the SOA/STP features installed.

1) The internal documentation has broken links.
2) It crashed with an NPE when I tried to enable it on my existing
project that contains a CXF service.

So I, for what it's worth, don't recommend bothering with it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bim2007@basistech.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 5:37 PM
> To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Eclipse STP installation process
> 
> I think, but I don't know for sure, that this thing is build upon the
> WST package in Europa. I've tried to use that to set up a simple web
app
> containing CXF services. The WST plugins are spectacularly unstable,
and
> poorly designed, to boot. More or less the slightest misstep, and they
> corrupt their .settings file and go on permanent strike.
> 
> If I've misread the page you pointed to, and this thing purports to be
> useful without having to deal with WST, then it might be worth trying
> out.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gdprao [mailto:gdprao@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:10 PM
> > To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Eclipse STP installation process
> >
> >
> > I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the
> following
> > page
> > http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-
> > 200706260218/
> > that the prerequisites should be installed before installing eclipse
> STP.
> > Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to
> successfully
> > install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds should
I
> > pickup for working with CXF.
> > It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP
> > installation
> > and configuration for CXF.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Durga
> > --
> > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-
> > installation-process-tf4125577.html#a11732259
> > Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.


RE: Eclipse STP installation process

Posted by Benson Margulies <bi...@basistech.com>.
I think, but I don't know for sure, that this thing is build upon the
WST package in Europa. I've tried to use that to set up a simple web app
containing CXF services. The WST plugins are spectacularly unstable, and
poorly designed, to boot. More or less the slightest misstep, and they
corrupt their .settings file and go on permanent strike.

If I've misread the page you pointed to, and this thing purports to be
useful without having to deal with WST, then it might be worth trying
out.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: gdprao [mailto:gdprao@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:10 PM
> To: cxf-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Eclipse STP installation process
> 
> 
> I have tried installing eclipse STP in Europa.  I see from the
following
> page
> http://europa-mirror1.eclipse.org/stp/downloads/drops/R-0.6.0-
> 200706260218/
> that the prerequisites should be installed before installing eclipse
STP.
> Some of links on this page are broken and I could not able to
successfully
> install all the plugins. I am also confused as to what builds should I
> pickup for working with CXF.
> It will be highly useful if someone could summarize Eclipse STP
> installation
> and configuration for CXF.
> 
> Thanks,
> Durga
> --
> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Eclipse-STP-
> installation-process-tf4125577.html#a11732259
> Sent from the cxf-user mailing list archive at Nabble.com.