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Posted to java-user@axis.apache.org by Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com> on 2007/09/17 16:13:23 UTC
Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in Tomcat to
standalone version.
Can someone, please, advise me:
1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using DataSources and
just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it possible to do in
the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other approach.
b) we were using basic web service access authentication and user list was
stored in mysql database.
Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication methods
Thank you in advance,
Marko Simic
Soft Division
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com>.
K...thanks for advise.
Regards,
Marko Simic
Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>
> On 9/18/07, Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Since the only "remote part" of application is single web service I
>> thought
>> it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy preconfigured
>> standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less memory and
>> performance
>> could be better.
>> Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that should be tested.
>>
>> If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and what you may
>> suggest.
>> Thanks.
>
>
> Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many concorrent
> requests and performs well.
> But on the other hand simple http server is not that much tested and
> mainly
> for testing purposes.
>
> So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>
> Amila.
>
> Regards,
>> Marko Simic
>>
>>
>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>> >
>> > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in Tomcat to
>> >> standalone version.
>> >
>> >
>> > why you want to do this?
>> > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in production
>> > use.
>> >
>> > Can someone, please, advise me:
>> >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
>> >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using
>> DataSources
>> >> and
>> >> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it possible to
>> do
>> >> in
>> >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other approach.
>> >> b) we were using basic web service access authentication and user list
>> >> was
>> >> stored in mysql database.
>> >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication methods
>> >>
>> >> Thank you in advance,
>> >> Marko Simic
>> >> Soft Division
>> >> --
>> >> View this message in context:
>> >>
>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
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>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Amila Suriarachchi,
>> > WSO2 Inc.
>> >
>> >
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>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Ted Jones <te...@redhat.com>.
Thank you Ajith. I will check it out.
Ted
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ajith Ranabahu" <aj...@gmail.com>
To: axis-user@ws.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:00:06 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Hi Ted,
There is an Axis2 based production quality server called
WSAS(http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) (fully opensource) from WSO2. It
is based on the tomcat core and can act much more reliably than the
simple Axis server.
Ajith
On 10/2/07, redhatter <te...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> If I could chime in on this... I see a need for a production quality
> standalone Axis2 server. To assume that users of a web service are content
> using Tomcat or some other J2EE container may be incorrect. From personal
> experience, I have seen customers that have sworn allegiance to one
> container or another and need our web service to run in their environment.
> This means mimicking multiple environments to test our web services which is
> time and resource intensive. A production caliber standalone Axis2 container
> would alleviate the need for this additional resource drain and simplify
> technical support.
>
> Thanks,
> Ted
>
>
> Demetris G wrote:
> >
> >
> > Exactly ... thanks for the good feedback Anne and Amila.
> >
> > Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> >> You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why
> >> reimplement the application container capability again when systems
> >> like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on
> >> solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML
> >> messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or
> >> servlet engine.
> >>
> >> If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an
> >> application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or
> >> Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server.
> >>
> >> Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only
> >> for testing purposes, not for production runtime.
> >>
> >> Anne
> >>
> >> On 9/19/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do
> >>> have a good understanding on how
> >>> Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that
> >>> some researchers are using the wrong
> >>> terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people.
> >>> These projects are the implementations
> >>> of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and
> >>> process their communications
> >>> with the world. What people should understand is that the service
> >>> implementations are not really "contained"
> >>> in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for
> >>> the feedback Amila.
> >>>
> >>> Demetris G wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
> >>>> services container - yes ?
> >>>> If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it
> >>>> wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Demetris G wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
> >>>>>> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
> >>>>>> considered a
> >>>>>> stable and reliable enough
> >>>>>> standalone web service container
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
> >>>>>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
> >>>>>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
> >>>>>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
> >>>>>> REST message processing capabilities.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and it should always be deployed within
> >>>>>> other proven
> >>>>>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone
> >>>>>> server
> >>>>>> you can use
> >>>>>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
> >>>>>> embedded tomcat server.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
> >>>>>> Axis? Where is this documented?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single
> >>>>>> web
> >>>>>> service
> >>>>>> > I thought
> >>>>>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to
> >>>>>> deploy
> >>>>>> > preconfigured
> >>>>>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
> >>>>>> memory and
> >>>>>> > performance
> >>>>>> > could be better.
> >>>>>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
> >>>>>> should be tested.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
> >>>>>> what you may
> >>>>>> > suggest.
> >>>>>> > Thanks.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
> >>>>>> concorrent
> >>>>>> > requests and performs well.
> >>>>>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
> >>>>>> tested and
> >>>>>> > mainly for testing purposes.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Amila.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Regards,
> >>>>>> > Marko Simic
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
> >>>>>> deployed in
> >>>>>> > Tomcat to
> >>>>>> > >> standalone version.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > why you want to do this?
> >>>>>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
> >>>>>> server in
> >>>>>> > production
> >>>>>> > > use.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
> >>>>>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> >>>>>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>> using
> >>>>>> > DataSources
> >>>>>> > >> and
> >>>>>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question
> >>>>>> is: is it
> >>>>>> > possible to do
> >>>>>> > >> in
> >>>>>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> approach.
> >>>>>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
> >>>>>> authentication and
> >>>>>> > user list
> >>>>>> > >> was
> >>>>>> > >> stored in mysql database.
> >>>>>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
> >>>>>> authentication
> >>>>>> > methods
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> Thank you in advance,
> >>>>>> > >> Marko Simic
> >>>>>> > >> Soft Division
> >>>>>> > >> --
> >>>>>> > >> View this message in context:
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > --
> >>>>>> > > Amila Suriarachchi,
> >>>>>> > > WSO2 Inc.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > --
> >>>>>> > View this message in context:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> > <
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ted,
There is an Axis2 based production quality server called
WSAS(http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) (fully opensource) from WSO2. It
is based on the tomcat core and can act much more reliably than the
simple Axis server.
Ajith
On 10/2/07, redhatter <te...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> If I could chime in on this... I see a need for a production quality
> standalone Axis2 server. To assume that users of a web service are content
> using Tomcat or some other J2EE container may be incorrect. From personal
> experience, I have seen customers that have sworn allegiance to one
> container or another and need our web service to run in their environment.
> This means mimicking multiple environments to test our web services which is
> time and resource intensive. A production caliber standalone Axis2 container
> would alleviate the need for this additional resource drain and simplify
> technical support.
>
> Thanks,
> Ted
>
>
> Demetris G wrote:
> >
> >
> > Exactly ... thanks for the good feedback Anne and Amila.
> >
> > Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> >> You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why
> >> reimplement the application container capability again when systems
> >> like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on
> >> solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML
> >> messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or
> >> servlet engine.
> >>
> >> If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an
> >> application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or
> >> Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server.
> >>
> >> Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only
> >> for testing purposes, not for production runtime.
> >>
> >> Anne
> >>
> >> On 9/19/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do
> >>> have a good understanding on how
> >>> Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that
> >>> some researchers are using the wrong
> >>> terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people.
> >>> These projects are the implementations
> >>> of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and
> >>> process their communications
> >>> with the world. What people should understand is that the service
> >>> implementations are not really "contained"
> >>> in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for
> >>> the feedback Amila.
> >>>
> >>> Demetris G wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
> >>>> services container - yes ?
> >>>> If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it
> >>>> wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Demetris G wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
> >>>>>> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
> >>>>>> considered a
> >>>>>> stable and reliable enough
> >>>>>> standalone web service container
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
> >>>>>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
> >>>>>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
> >>>>>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
> >>>>>> REST message processing capabilities.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and it should always be deployed within
> >>>>>> other proven
> >>>>>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone
> >>>>>> server
> >>>>>> you can use
> >>>>>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
> >>>>>> embedded tomcat server.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
> >>>>>> Axis? Where is this documented?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single
> >>>>>> web
> >>>>>> service
> >>>>>> > I thought
> >>>>>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to
> >>>>>> deploy
> >>>>>> > preconfigured
> >>>>>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
> >>>>>> memory and
> >>>>>> > performance
> >>>>>> > could be better.
> >>>>>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
> >>>>>> should be tested.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
> >>>>>> what you may
> >>>>>> > suggest.
> >>>>>> > Thanks.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
> >>>>>> concorrent
> >>>>>> > requests and performs well.
> >>>>>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
> >>>>>> tested and
> >>>>>> > mainly for testing purposes.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Amila.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Regards,
> >>>>>> > Marko Simic
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
> >>>>>> deployed in
> >>>>>> > Tomcat to
> >>>>>> > >> standalone version.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > why you want to do this?
> >>>>>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
> >>>>>> server in
> >>>>>> > production
> >>>>>> > > use.
> >>>>>> > >
> >>>>>> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
> >>>>>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> >>>>>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we
> >>>>>> were
> >>>>>> using
> >>>>>> > DataSources
> >>>>>> > >> and
> >>>>>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question
> >>>>>> is: is it
> >>>>>> > possible to do
> >>>>>> > >> in
> >>>>>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> approach.
> >>>>>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
> >>>>>> authentication and
> >>>>>> > user list
> >>>>>> > >> was
> >>>>>> > >> stored in mysql database.
> >>>>>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
> >>>>>> authentication
> >>>>>> > methods
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> > >> Thank you in advance,
> >>>>>> > >> Marko Simic
> >>>>>> > >> Soft Division
> >>>>>> > >> --
> >>>>>> > >> View this message in context:
> >>>>>> > >>
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804>
> >>>>>>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by redhatter <te...@redhat.com>.
If I could chime in on this... I see a need for a production quality
standalone Axis2 server. To assume that users of a web service are content
using Tomcat or some other J2EE container may be incorrect. From personal
experience, I have seen customers that have sworn allegiance to one
container or another and need our web service to run in their environment.
This means mimicking multiple environments to test our web services which is
time and resource intensive. A production caliber standalone Axis2 container
would alleviate the need for this additional resource drain and simplify
technical support.
Thanks,
Ted
Demetris G wrote:
>
>
> Exactly ... thanks for the good feedback Anne and Amila.
>
> Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
>> You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why
>> reimplement the application container capability again when systems
>> like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on
>> solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML
>> messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or
>> servlet engine.
>>
>> If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an
>> application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or
>> Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server.
>>
>> Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only
>> for testing purposes, not for production runtime.
>>
>> Anne
>>
>> On 9/19/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do
>>> have a good understanding on how
>>> Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that
>>> some researchers are using the wrong
>>> terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people.
>>> These projects are the implementations
>>> of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and
>>> process their communications
>>> with the world. What people should understand is that the service
>>> implementations are not really "contained"
>>> in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for
>>> the feedback Amila.
>>>
>>> Demetris G wrote:
>>>
>>>> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
>>>> services container - yes ?
>>>> If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it
>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Demetris G wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
>>>>>
>>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
>>>>>> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
>>>>>> considered a
>>>>>> stable and reliable enough
>>>>>> standalone web service container
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
>>>>>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
>>>>>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
>>>>>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
>>>>>> REST message processing capabilities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and it should always be deployed within
>>>>>> other proven
>>>>>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone
>>>>>> server
>>>>>> you can use
>>>>>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
>>>>>> embedded tomcat server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
>>>>>> Axis? Where is this documented?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single
>>>>>> web
>>>>>> service
>>>>>> > I thought
>>>>>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to
>>>>>> deploy
>>>>>> > preconfigured
>>>>>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
>>>>>> memory and
>>>>>> > performance
>>>>>> > could be better.
>>>>>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
>>>>>> should be tested.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
>>>>>> what you may
>>>>>> > suggest.
>>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
>>>>>> concorrent
>>>>>> > requests and performs well.
>>>>>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
>>>>>> tested and
>>>>>> > mainly for testing purposes.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Amila.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>> > Marko Simic
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
>>>>>> deployed in
>>>>>> > Tomcat to
>>>>>> > >> standalone version.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > why you want to do this?
>>>>>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
>>>>>> server in
>>>>>> > production
>>>>>> > > use.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
>>>>>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
>>>>>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> > DataSources
>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question
>>>>>> is: is it
>>>>>> > possible to do
>>>>>> > >> in
>>>>>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> approach.
>>>>>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
>>>>>> authentication and
>>>>>> > user list
>>>>>> > >> was
>>>>>> > >> stored in mysql database.
>>>>>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
>>>>>> authentication
>>>>>> > methods
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> > >> Thank you in advance,
>>>>>> > >> Marko Simic
>>>>>> > >> Soft Division
>>>>>> > >> --
>>>>>> > >> View this message in context:
>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Exactly ... thanks for the good feedback Anne and Amila.
Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
> You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why
> reimplement the application container capability again when systems
> like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on
> solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML
> messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or
> servlet engine.
>
> If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an
> application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or
> Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server.
>
> Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only
> for testing purposes, not for production runtime.
>
> Anne
>
> On 9/19/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>
>> In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do
>> have a good understanding on how
>> Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that
>> some researchers are using the wrong
>> terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people.
>> These projects are the implementations
>> of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and
>> process their communications
>> with the world. What people should understand is that the service
>> implementations are not really "contained"
>> in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for
>> the feedback Amila.
>>
>> Demetris G wrote:
>>
>>> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
>>> services container - yes ?
>>> If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it
>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Demetris G wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
>>>>
>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
>>>>> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
>>>>> considered a
>>>>> stable and reliable enough
>>>>> standalone web service container
>>>>>
>>>>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
>>>>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
>>>>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
>>>>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
>>>>> REST message processing capabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and it should always be deployed within
>>>>> other proven
>>>>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server
>>>>> you can use
>>>>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
>>>>> embedded tomcat server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
>>>>> Axis? Where is this documented?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
>>>>> service
>>>>> > I thought
>>>>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to
>>>>> deploy
>>>>> > preconfigured
>>>>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
>>>>> memory and
>>>>> > performance
>>>>> > could be better.
>>>>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
>>>>> should be tested.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
>>>>> what you may
>>>>> > suggest.
>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
>>>>> concorrent
>>>>> > requests and performs well.
>>>>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
>>>>> tested and
>>>>> > mainly for testing purposes.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Amila.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>> > Marko Simic
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
>>>>> deployed in
>>>>> > Tomcat to
>>>>> > >> standalone version.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > why you want to do this?
>>>>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
>>>>> server in
>>>>> > production
>>>>> > > use.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
>>>>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
>>>>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
>>>>> using
>>>>> > DataSources
>>>>> > >> and
>>>>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question
>>>>> is: is it
>>>>> > possible to do
>>>>> > >> in
>>>>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
>>>>> approach.
>>>>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
>>>>> authentication and
>>>>> > user list
>>>>> > >> was
>>>>> > >> stored in mysql database.
>>>>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
>>>>> authentication
>>>>> > methods
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Thank you in advance,
>>>>> > >> Marko Simic
>>>>> > >> Soft Division
>>>>> > >> --
>>>>> > >> View this message in context:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Anne Thomas Manes <at...@gmail.com>.
You'll find this to be the case with most open source projects -- why
reimplement the application container capability again when systems
like Tomcat already exist? The Axis and Axis2 teams are focusing on
solving a different problem -- processing and dispatching XML
messaging requests. The projects are designed to run in any Java EE or
servlet engine.
If you do find a commercial or open source project that includes an
application container, most likely it includes a copy of Tomcat or
Jetty or it is built on a Java EE app server.
Axis does support a stand-alone runtime mode, but it is intended only
for testing purposes, not for production runtime.
Anne
On 9/19/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>
> In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do
> have a good understanding on how
> Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that
> some researchers are using the wrong
> terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people.
> These projects are the implementations
> of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and
> process their communications
> with the world. What people should understand is that the service
> implementations are not really "contained"
> in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for
> the feedback Amila.
>
> Demetris G wrote:
> >
> > Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
> > services container - yes ?
> > If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it
> > wrong.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Demetris G wrote:
> >>
> >> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
> >>
> >> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
> >>> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
> >>> considered a
> >>> stable and reliable enough
> >>> standalone web service container
> >>>
> >>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
> >>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
> >>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
> >>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
> >>> REST message processing capabilities.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and it should always be deployed within
> >>> other proven
> >>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
> >>>
> >>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server
> >>> you can use
> >>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
> >>> embedded tomcat server.
> >>>
> >>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
> >>> Axis? Where is this documented?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
> >>> service
> >>> > I thought
> >>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to
> >>> deploy
> >>> > preconfigured
> >>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
> >>> memory and
> >>> > performance
> >>> > could be better.
> >>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
> >>> should be tested.
> >>> >
> >>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
> >>> what you may
> >>> > suggest.
> >>> > Thanks.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
> >>> concorrent
> >>> > requests and performs well.
> >>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
> >>> tested and
> >>> > mainly for testing purposes.
> >>> >
> >>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
> >>> >
> >>> > Amila.
> >>> >
> >>> > Regards,
> >>> > Marko Simic
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
> >>> deployed in
> >>> > Tomcat to
> >>> > >> standalone version.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > why you want to do this?
> >>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
> >>> server in
> >>> > production
> >>> > > use.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
> >>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> >>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
> >>> using
> >>> > DataSources
> >>> > >> and
> >>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question
> >>> is: is it
> >>> > possible to do
> >>> > >> in
> >>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
> >>> approach.
> >>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
> >>> authentication and
> >>> > user list
> >>> > >> was
> >>> > >> stored in mysql database.
> >>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
> >>> authentication
> >>> > methods
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Thank you in advance,
> >>> > >> Marko Simic
> >>> > >> Soft Division
> >>> > >> --
> >>> > >> View this message in context:
> >>> > >>
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804>
> >>>
> >>> > >> Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at
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> >>> > >
> >>> > > --
> >>> > > Amila Suriarachchi,
> >>> > > WSO2 Inc.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > View this message in context:
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580>>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
In other words - and excuse the multiple emails on this - although I do
have a good understanding on how
Axis and Axis2 work, my point is that I noticed in the literature that
some researchers are using the wrong
terminology to explain their functionality that confuses some people.
These projects are the implementations
of the SOAP (and REST processing) specifications, they can expose WS and
process their communications
with the world. What people should understand is that the service
implementations are not really "contained"
in these engines and thus the Tomcats etc. Well in any case, thanks for
the feedback Amila.
Demetris G wrote:
>
> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
> services container - yes ?
> If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it
> wrong.
>
> Thanks
>
> Demetris G wrote:
>>
>> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
>>
>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
>>> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
>>> considered a
>>> stable and reliable enough
>>> standalone web service container
>>>
>>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
>>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
>>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
>>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
>>> REST message processing capabilities.
>>>
>>>
>>> and it should always be deployed within
>>> other proven
>>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
>>>
>>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server
>>> you can use
>>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
>>> embedded tomcat server.
>>>
>>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
>>> Axis? Where is this documented?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
>>> service
>>> > I thought
>>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to
>>> deploy
>>> > preconfigured
>>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
>>> memory and
>>> > performance
>>> > could be better.
>>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
>>> should be tested.
>>> >
>>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
>>> what you may
>>> > suggest.
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
>>> concorrent
>>> > requests and performs well.
>>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
>>> tested and
>>> > mainly for testing purposes.
>>> >
>>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>>> >
>>> > Amila.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Marko Simic
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
>>> deployed in
>>> > Tomcat to
>>> > >> standalone version.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > why you want to do this?
>>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
>>> server in
>>> > production
>>> > > use.
>>> > >
>>> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
>>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
>>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
>>> using
>>> > DataSources
>>> > >> and
>>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question
>>> is: is it
>>> > possible to do
>>> > >> in
>>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
>>> approach.
>>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
>>> authentication and
>>> > user list
>>> > >> was
>>> > >> stored in mysql database.
>>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
>>> authentication
>>> > methods
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thank you in advance,
>>> > >> Marko Simic
>>> > >> Soft Division
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> View this message in context:
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
>>>
>>>
>>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804>
>>>
>>> > >> Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at
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>>> > < http://Nabble.com>.
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>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Amila Suriarachchi,
>>> > > WSO2 Inc.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > View this message in context:
>>> >
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580
>>>
>>> > <
>>>
>>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12750580
>>>
>>>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Amila Suriarachchi <am...@gmail.com>.
On 9/19/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
> services container - yes ?
I am not familiar with Axis. My involvement is with the Axis2. Some one
having a good knowledge of Axis may answer this.
If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it wrong.
>
> Thanks
>
> Demetris G wrote:
> >
> > That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
> >
> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
> >> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
> >> considered a
> >> stable and reliable enough
> >> standalone web service container
> >>
> >> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
> >> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
> >> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
> >> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
> >> REST message processing capabilities.
> >>
> >>
> >> and it should always be deployed within
> >> other proven
> >> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
> >>
> >> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server
> >> you can use
> >> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
> >> embedded tomcat server.
> >>
> >> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
> >> Axis? Where is this documented?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
> >> service
> >> > I thought
> >> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to
> deploy
> >> > preconfigured
> >> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
> >> memory and
> >> > performance
> >> > could be better.
> >> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
> >> should be tested.
> >> >
> >> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
> >> what you may
> >> > suggest.
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
> >> concorrent
> >> > requests and performs well.
> >> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
> >> tested and
> >> > mainly for testing purposes.
> >> >
> >> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
> >> >
> >> > Amila.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Marko Simic
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>
> >> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> >> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
> >> deployed in
> >> > Tomcat to
> >> > >> standalone version.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > why you want to do this?
> >> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
> >> server in
> >> > production
> >> > > use.
> >> > >
> >> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
> >> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> >> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
> >> using
> >> > DataSources
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question is:
> >> is it
> >> > possible to do
> >> > >> in
> >> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
> >> approach.
> >> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
> >> authentication and
> >> > user list
> >> > >> was
> >> > >> stored in mysql database.
> >> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
> >> authentication
> >> > methods
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thank you in advance,
> >> > >> Marko Simic
> >> > >> Soft Division
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> View this message in context:
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> >>
> >>
> >> <
> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> >
> >>
> >> > >> Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at
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> >> > < http://Nabble.com>.
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> >> > >
> >> > > --
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> >> > > WSO2 Inc.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> >
> >>
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> >>
> >> > <
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> <
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> >>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
Would you say the same for Axis ? Axis can be used as a standalone web
services container - yes ?
If not then we have people publishing papers on that that may have it wrong.
Thanks
Demetris G wrote:
>
> That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
>
> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
>> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
>> considered a
>> stable and reliable enough
>> standalone web service container
>>
>> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
>> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
>> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
>>
>>
>> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
>> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
>> REST message processing capabilities.
>>
>>
>> and it should always be deployed within
>> other proven
>> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
>>
>> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server
>> you can use
>> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
>> embedded tomcat server.
>>
>> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
>> Axis? Where is this documented?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
>> service
>> > I thought
>> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy
>> > preconfigured
>> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
>> memory and
>> > performance
>> > could be better.
>> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
>> should be tested.
>> >
>> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
>> what you may
>> > suggest.
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
>> concorrent
>> > requests and performs well.
>> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
>> tested and
>> > mainly for testing purposes.
>> >
>> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>> >
>> > Amila.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Marko Simic
>> >
>> >
>> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>
>> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
>> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
>> deployed in
>> > Tomcat to
>> > >> standalone version.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > why you want to do this?
>> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http
>> server in
>> > production
>> > > use.
>> > >
>> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
>> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
>> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
>> using
>> > DataSources
>> > >> and
>> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question is:
>> is it
>> > possible to do
>> > >> in
>> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
>> approach.
>> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
>> authentication and
>> > user list
>> > >> was
>> > >> stored in mysql database.
>> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
>> authentication
>> > methods
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you in advance,
>> > >> Marko Simic
>> > >> Soft Division
>> > >> --
>> > >> View this message in context:
>> > >>
>> >
>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
>>
>>
>> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
That's what I thought :) Thanks Amila.
Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>
>
> On 9/19/07, *Amila Suriarachchi* <amilasuriarachchi@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/18/07, *Demetris G* < demetris@ece.neu.edu
> <ma...@ece.neu.edu>> wrote:
>
>
> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not
> considered a
> stable and reliable enough
> standalone web service container
>
>
> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST
> message processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product.
> Basically it concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
>
>
> Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It
> alows users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and
> REST message processing capabilities.
>
>
> and it should always be deployed within
> other proven
> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
>
>
> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server
> you can use
> WSAS ( http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and
> embedded tomcat server.
>
> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
> Axis? Where is this documented?
>
>
>
>
> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web
> service
> > I thought
> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy
> > preconfigured
> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less
> memory and
> > performance
> > could be better.
> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that
> should be tested.
> >
> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and
> what you may
> > suggest.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many
> concorrent
> > requests and performs well.
> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much
> tested and
> > mainly for testing purposes.
> >
> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
> >
> > Amila.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marko Simic
> >
> >
> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto: marko.simic@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2
> deployed in
> > Tomcat to
> > >> standalone version.
> > >
> > >
> > > why you want to do this?
> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in
> > production
> > > use.
> > >
> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were
> using
> > DataSources
> > >> and
> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it
> > possible to do
> > >> in
> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
> approach.
> > >> b) we were using basic web service access
> authentication and
> > user list
> > >> was
> > >> stored in mysql database.
> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and
> authentication
> > methods
> > >>
> > >> Thank you in advance,
> > >> Marko Simic
> > >> Soft Division
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context:
> > >>
> >
> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> <http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Amila Suriarachchi <am...@gmail.com>.
On 9/19/07, Amila Suriarachchi <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 9/18/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not considered a
> > stable and reliable enough
> > standalone web service container
>
>
> Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST message
> processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product. Basically it
> concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
>
Sorry I mean It is not a standalone web application container. It alows
users to deploy web services and expose them with the soap and REST message
processing capabilities.
and it should always be deployed within
> > other proven
> > containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
>
>
> Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server you can
> use
> WSAS (http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and embedded
> tomcat server.
>
> Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
> > Axis? Where is this documented?
>
>
>
>
> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* < marko.simic@gmail.com
> > > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web service
> > > I thought
> > > it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy
> > > preconfigured
> > > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less memory and
> > > performance
> > > could be better.
> > > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that should be
> > tested.
> > >
> > > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and what you may
> > > suggest.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many concorrent
> > > requests and performs well.
> > > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much tested and
> > > mainly for testing purposes.
> > >
> > > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
> > >
> > > Amila.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marko Simic
> > >
> > >
> > > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic < marko.simic@gmail.com
> > > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in
> > > Tomcat to
> > > >> standalone version.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > why you want to do this?
> > > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in
> > > production
> > > > use.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone, please, advise me:
> > > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> > > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using
> > > DataSources
> > > >> and
> > > >> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it
> > > possible to do
> > > >> in
> > > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other
> > approach.
> > > >> b) we were using basic web service access authentication and
> > > user list
> > > >> was
> > > >> stored in mysql database.
> > > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication
> > > methods
> > > >>
> > > >> Thank you in advance,
> > > >> Marko Simic
> > > >> Soft Division
> > > >> --
> > > >> View this message in context:
> > > >>
> > > http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> >
> > > >> Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com
> > > <http://Nabble.com>.
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> > > > WSO2 Inc.
> > > >
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Amila Suriarachchi <am...@gmail.com>.
On 9/18/07, Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu> wrote:
>
>
> So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not considered a
> stable and reliable enough
> standalone web service container
Axis2 is not a web service container. Axis2 is a soap and REST message
processor which supports WS*. Axis2 is a stable product. Basically it
concentrates on Soap and REST message processing.
and it should always be deployed within
> other proven
> containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)?
Yes this is the recommended way. if you want an standalone server you can
use
WSAS (http://wso2.com/products/wsas/) which uses the axis2 and embedded
tomcat server.
Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
> Axis? Where is this documented?
Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* <marko.simic@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Since the only "remote part" of application is single web service
> > I thought
> > it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy
> > preconfigured
> > standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less memory and
> > performance
> > could be better.
> > Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that should be
> tested.
> >
> > If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and what you may
> > suggest.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many concorrent
> > requests and performs well.
> > But on the other hand simple http server is not that much tested and
> > mainly for testing purposes.
> >
> > So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
> >
> > Amila.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marko Simic
> >
> >
> > Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic <marko.simic@gmail.com
> > <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in
> > Tomcat to
> > >> standalone version.
> > >
> > >
> > > why you want to do this?
> > > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in
> > production
> > > use.
> > >
> > > Can someone, please, advise me:
> > >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> > >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using
> > DataSources
> > >> and
> > >> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it
> > possible to do
> > >> in
> > >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other approach.
> > >> b) we were using basic web service access authentication and
> > user list
> > >> was
> > >> stored in mysql database.
> > >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication
> > methods
> > >>
> > >> Thank you in advance,
> > >> Marko Simic
> > >> Soft Division
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context:
> > >>
> >
> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
> > >> Sent from the Axis - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com
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> > > WSO2 Inc.
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
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> > <
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Demetris G <de...@ece.neu.edu>.
So hold on a sec - Amila, are you saying that Axis2 is not considered a
stable and reliable enough
standalone web service container and it should always be deployed within
other proven
containers (i.e. Tomcat etc.)? Is this the case only for Axis2 or also
Axis? Where is this documented?
Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>
>
> On 9/18/07, *Marko Simic* <marko.simic@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Since the only "remote part" of application is single web service
> I thought
> it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy
> preconfigured
> standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less memory and
> performance
> could be better.
> Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that should be tested.
>
> If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and what you may
> suggest.
> Thanks.
>
>
> Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many concorrent
> requests and performs well.
> But on the other hand simple http server is not that much tested and
> mainly for testing purposes.
>
> So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
>
> Amila.
>
> Regards,
> Marko Simic
>
>
> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >
> > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic <marko.simic@gmail.com
> <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in
> Tomcat to
> >> standalone version.
> >
> >
> > why you want to do this?
> > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in
> production
> > use.
> >
> > Can someone, please, advise me:
> >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using
> DataSources
> >> and
> >> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it
> possible to do
> >> in
> >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other approach.
> >> b) we were using basic web service access authentication and
> user list
> >> was
> >> stored in mysql database.
> >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication
> methods
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance,
> >> Marko Simic
> >> Soft Division
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Amila Suriarachchi <am...@gmail.com>.
On 9/18/07, Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Since the only "remote part" of application is single web service I
> thought
> it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy preconfigured
> standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less memory and
> performance
> could be better.
> Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that should be tested.
>
> If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and what you may
> suggest.
> Thanks.
Tomcat is a statble web service container that handle many concorrent
requests and performs well.
But on the other hand simple http server is not that much tested and mainly
for testing purposes.
So the suggestion is to keep tomcat.
Amila.
Regards,
> Marko Simic
>
>
> Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
> >
> > On 9/17/07, Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in Tomcat to
> >> standalone version.
> >
> >
> > why you want to do this?
> > I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in production
> > use.
> >
> > Can someone, please, advise me:
> >> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> >> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using DataSources
> >> and
> >> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it possible to
> do
> >> in
> >> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other approach.
> >> b) we were using basic web service access authentication and user list
> >> was
> >> stored in mysql database.
> >> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication methods
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance,
> >> Marko Simic
> >> Soft Division
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com>.
Since the only "remote part" of application is single web service I thought
it would be much easer for deployment/management to deploy preconfigured
standalone dedicated server. Also it could take less memory and performance
could be better.
Anyway, these are only assumptions = something that should be tested.
If you think I am wrong, I would like to hear why and what you may suggest.
Thanks.
Regards,
Marko Simic
Amila Suriarachchi wrote:
>
> On 9/17/07, Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in Tomcat to
>> standalone version.
>
>
> why you want to do this?
> I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in production
> use.
>
> Can someone, please, advise me:
>> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
>> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using DataSources
>> and
>> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it possible to do
>> in
>> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other approach.
>> b) we were using basic web service access authentication and user list
>> was
>> stored in mysql database.
>> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication methods
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Marko Simic
>> Soft Division
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
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Re: Migrating from Tomcat AXIS2 to Standalone AXIS2
Posted by Amila Suriarachchi <am...@gmail.com>.
On 9/17/07, Marko Simic <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am currently working on migration from AXIS2 deployed in Tomcat to
> standalone version.
why you want to do this?
I think it is not a good idea to put simple http server in production use.
Can someone, please, advise me:
> 1. How to solve database communication problem(s)
> a) While it was working within Tomcat context we were using DataSources
> and
> just passing its names to web services. Question is: is it possible to do
> in
> the same manner (and how) or we need to use some other approach.
> b) we were using basic web service access authentication and user list was
> stored in mysql database.
> Question is how to translate/bridge Realms and authentication methods
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Marko Simic
> Soft Division
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Migrating-from-Tomcat-AXIS2-to-Standalone-AXIS2-tf4467094.html#a12736804
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