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Posted to dev@syncope.apache.org by Gary Gardner <ga...@gmail.com> on 2013/06/23 17:31:30 UTC
Is there any documentation on branding?
How do you brand Syncope for your specific organization?
We would need to brand Syncope's Self-Registration and other portions of
Syncope.
Is this possible? Is there documentation or a readme on this?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Re: Is there any documentation on branding?
Posted by Gary Gardner <ga...@gmail.com>.
That was most helpful and informative. I wondered about making my own UI
and making calls. I will try to do that.
As for the legal aspects, I won't be publishing source, so I think I'm good
on that.
Let me give this a try and see what I come up with
Thanks for your replies.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Jesse van Bekkum <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing you could do is make your own UI in Java, php, python, etc, and
> let that UI do rest calls to Syncope. That is how we are doing a project.
> You would need to make your own forms in HTML, use some language to
> transform the form data into json objects, and call the rest interface with
> those objects. See
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/REST+API+upgrade for
> more info about the rest interface.
>
> You could also change the syncope console UI, but to make it really
> indistinguisable from the rest of the site will be nearly impossible. You
> will always see remains of the syncope UI.
>
> About the licencing, IANAL, but the Apache licence is quite permissive. If
> you do not publish the sources, you can almost do whatever you want, and if
> you do publish you need to make clear what is part of the original software
> (including the licence), and what is not. (Source: a book about the law on
> internet I own)
>
> Jesse
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Gary Gardner
> <ga...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I don't think my question is legal related.
> >
> > For instance, if I had a web site that was for auto repair and I wanted
> my
> > customers to register to be able to schedule maintenance, I would want
> them
> > to see my company logo and stuff and also be able to customize the
> > registration process to have them enter information like username,
> address,
> > city, state, zip, phone number, etc. They should have automatically
> have a
> > role assigned of Customer.
> >
> > Or if I wanted all my mechanics to register, same kind of things. Then I
> > could assign them a role of Mechanic and they would then be able to go in
> > and approve the customers and all of that.
> >
> > But again, I would want them to see the branding for my mechanic shop not
> > it saying Syncope.
> >
> > Does this help clarify?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò <
> > ilgrosso@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On 23/06/2013 17:31, Gary Gardner wrote:
> > >
> > >> How do you brand Syncope for your specific organization?
> > >>
> > >> We would need to brand Syncope's Self-Registration and other portions
> of
> > >> Syncope.
> > >>
> > >> Is this possible? Is there documentation or a readme on this?
> > >>
> > >> Any help would be appreciated.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > there is no specific documentation for Syncope about this: I guess that
> > > the relevant ASF-wide documentation must be taken into account,
> starting
> > > (but not limited to) [1] - with practical reference to [2].
> > >
> > > Since I am not a lawyer, however, I ask other devs to come and comment,
> > if
> > > they know more.
> > >
> > > Anyway, if in doubt, you can directly ask the Apache Software
> Foundation
> > > legal staff [3].
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/<
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/>
> > > [2] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/faq/<
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/>
> > > [3] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/mailinglists.html#**
> > > foundation-legal<
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Francesco Chicchiriccò
> > >
> > > ASF Member, Apache Syncope PMC chair, Apache Cocoon PMC Member
> > > http://people.apache.org/~**ilgrosso/<
> > http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Is there any documentation on branding?
Posted by Jesse van Bekkum <be...@gmail.com>.
One thing you could do is make your own UI in Java, php, python, etc, and
let that UI do rest calls to Syncope. That is how we are doing a project.
You would need to make your own forms in HTML, use some language to
transform the form data into json objects, and call the rest interface with
those objects. See
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SYNCOPE/REST+API+upgrade for
more info about the rest interface.
You could also change the syncope console UI, but to make it really
indistinguisable from the rest of the site will be nearly impossible. You
will always see remains of the syncope UI.
About the licencing, IANAL, but the Apache licence is quite permissive. If
you do not publish the sources, you can almost do whatever you want, and if
you do publish you need to make clear what is part of the original software
(including the licence), and what is not. (Source: a book about the law on
internet I own)
Jesse
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Gary Gardner
<ga...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I don't think my question is legal related.
>
> For instance, if I had a web site that was for auto repair and I wanted my
> customers to register to be able to schedule maintenance, I would want them
> to see my company logo and stuff and also be able to customize the
> registration process to have them enter information like username, address,
> city, state, zip, phone number, etc. They should have automatically have a
> role assigned of Customer.
>
> Or if I wanted all my mechanics to register, same kind of things. Then I
> could assign them a role of Mechanic and they would then be able to go in
> and approve the customers and all of that.
>
> But again, I would want them to see the branding for my mechanic shop not
> it saying Syncope.
>
> Does this help clarify?
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò <
> ilgrosso@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 23/06/2013 17:31, Gary Gardner wrote:
> >
> >> How do you brand Syncope for your specific organization?
> >>
> >> We would need to brand Syncope's Self-Registration and other portions of
> >> Syncope.
> >>
> >> Is this possible? Is there documentation or a readme on this?
> >>
> >> Any help would be appreciated.
> >>
> >
> > Hi,
> > there is no specific documentation for Syncope about this: I guess that
> > the relevant ASF-wide documentation must be taken into account, starting
> > (but not limited to) [1] - with practical reference to [2].
> >
> > Since I am not a lawyer, however, I ask other devs to come and comment,
> if
> > they know more.
> >
> > Anyway, if in doubt, you can directly ask the Apache Software Foundation
> > legal staff [3].
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/>
> > [2] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/faq/<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/>
> > [3] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/mailinglists.html#**
> > foundation-legal<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal>
> >
> > --
> > Francesco Chicchiriccò
> >
> > ASF Member, Apache Syncope PMC chair, Apache Cocoon PMC Member
> > http://people.apache.org/~**ilgrosso/<
> http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/>
> >
> >
>
Re: Is there any documentation on branding?
Posted by Gary Gardner <ga...@gmail.com>.
I don't think my question is legal related.
For instance, if I had a web site that was for auto repair and I wanted my
customers to register to be able to schedule maintenance, I would want them
to see my company logo and stuff and also be able to customize the
registration process to have them enter information like username, address,
city, state, zip, phone number, etc. They should have automatically have a
role assigned of Customer.
Or if I wanted all my mechanics to register, same kind of things. Then I
could assign them a role of Mechanic and they would then be able to go in
and approve the customers and all of that.
But again, I would want them to see the branding for my mechanic shop not
it saying Syncope.
Does this help clarify?
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Francesco Chicchiriccò <
ilgrosso@apache.org> wrote:
> On 23/06/2013 17:31, Gary Gardner wrote:
>
>> How do you brand Syncope for your specific organization?
>>
>> We would need to brand Syncope's Self-Registration and other portions of
>> Syncope.
>>
>> Is this possible? Is there documentation or a readme on this?
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>
> Hi,
> there is no specific documentation for Syncope about this: I guess that
> the relevant ASF-wide documentation must be taken into account, starting
> (but not limited to) [1] - with practical reference to [2].
>
> Since I am not a lawyer, however, I ask other devs to come and comment, if
> they know more.
>
> Anyway, if in doubt, you can directly ask the Apache Software Foundation
> legal staff [3].
>
> Regards.
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/>
> [2] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/faq/<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/>
> [3] http://www.apache.org/**foundation/mailinglists.html#**
> foundation-legal<http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal>
>
> --
> Francesco Chicchiriccò
>
> ASF Member, Apache Syncope PMC chair, Apache Cocoon PMC Member
> http://people.apache.org/~**ilgrosso/<http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/>
>
>
Re: Is there any documentation on branding?
Posted by Francesco Chicchiriccò <il...@apache.org>.
On 23/06/2013 17:31, Gary Gardner wrote:
> How do you brand Syncope for your specific organization?
>
> We would need to brand Syncope's Self-Registration and other portions of
> Syncope.
>
> Is this possible? Is there documentation or a readme on this?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
Hi,
there is no specific documentation for Syncope about this: I guess that
the relevant ASF-wide documentation must be taken into account, starting
(but not limited to) [1] - with practical reference to [2].
Since I am not a lawyer, however, I ask other devs to come and comment,
if they know more.
Anyway, if in doubt, you can directly ask the Apache Software Foundation
legal staff [3].
Regards.
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/
[3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal
--
Francesco Chicchiriccò
ASF Member, Apache Syncope PMC chair, Apache Cocoon PMC Member
http://people.apache.org/~ilgrosso/