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'Apache Mobile First' ?
Hi,
just ran into this one:
https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
_closely_ connected ?
I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
"Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache"
Thx,
Matthias
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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Ha!
two minutes later - the tweet has been deleted :-D
But it was linking to this page => http://www.apachemobilefilter.org/
-Matthias
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> just ran into this one:
>
> https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
>
> searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
> being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
> _closely_ connected ?
>
>
> I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
> "Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
> AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
> as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache"
>
> Thx,
> Matthias
>
> --
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>
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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
On 4 October 2012 15:48, Idel Fuschini <id...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I need to change my domain name ?
Not necessarily. The ASF isn't in the business of shutting people down
- that's kind of counter to everything we are all trying to achieve.
All we want to do is remove confusion for end users. For this reason,
you do need permission from our VP Trademarks to use our marks in ways
that do not class as normative use.
The right thing to do is to engage with the trademarks@apache.org list
(I've again addressed that list in this reply). The people over there
will work with you to ensure there is no confusion for end-users and
thus ASF marks are not infringed. Shane (our VP Brand Management) is a
nice guy, he'll be happy to work with you as opposed to against you
:-)
Ross
>
> And this http://www.apache.com/ or myapache.org, or
> http://www.fortsillapache-nsn.gov/ or
> http://www.sancarlosapache.com/home.htm
>
> For me is a free project and I don't make money with this :-(
>
> and also my wiki the discription is:
>
> The module detects the mobile device and passes the WURFL capabilities on
> to the other web application as environment variables. It can also be used
> to resize images on the fly to adapt to the screen size of the mobile
> device.
>
>
> Idel
>
>
> On 4 October 2012 16:21, Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
>
>> On 4 October 2012 14:53, Idel Fuschini <id...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and
>> is
>> > a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem
>>
>> There is a potentially significant trademark problem (hence moving
>> this to trademarks@):
>>
>> "The following uses of ASF trademarks are probably infringing:....
>> Software service offerings that are for anything other than official
>> ASF-distributed software."
>>
>> and
>>
>> "You may not use ASF trademarks such as "Apache" or "ApacheFoo" or
>> "Foo" in your own domain names if that use would be likely to confuse
>> a relevant consumer about the source of software or services provided
>> through your website"
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
>>
>> Ross
>>
>> >
>> > Idel (owner of AMF)
>> >
>> > On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
>> >> >
>> >> > searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
>> >> > being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
>> >> > _closely_ connected ?...
>> >>
>> >> That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
>> >> http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
>> >> far.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
>> >> > "Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
>> >> > AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
>> >> > as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache"...
>> >>
>> >> I agree that the "Apache Mobile Filter" name might give the impression
>> >> that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
>> >> "Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server".
>> >>
>> >> -Bertrand
>> >>
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>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Programme Leader (Open Development)
>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?
Posted by Idel Fuschini <id...@gmail.com>.
So I need to change my domain name ?
And this http://www.apache.com/ or myapache.org, or
http://www.fortsillapache-nsn.gov/ or
http://www.sancarlosapache.com/home.htm
For me is a free project and I don't make money with this :-(
and also my wiki the discription is:
The module detects the mobile device and passes the WURFL capabilities on
to the other web application as environment variables. It can also be used
to resize images on the fly to adapt to the screen size of the mobile
device.
Idel
On 4 October 2012 16:21, Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com> wrote:
> On 4 October 2012 14:53, Idel Fuschini <id...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and
> is
> > a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem
>
> There is a potentially significant trademark problem (hence moving
> this to trademarks@):
>
> "The following uses of ASF trademarks are probably infringing:....
> Software service offerings that are for anything other than official
> ASF-distributed software."
>
> and
>
> "You may not use ASF trademarks such as "Apache" or "ApacheFoo" or
> "Foo" in your own domain names if that use would be likely to confuse
> a relevant consumer about the source of software or services provided
> through your website"
>
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
>
> Ross
>
> >
> > Idel (owner of AMF)
> >
> > On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
> >> >
> >> > searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
> >> > being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
> >> > _closely_ connected ?...
> >>
> >> That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
> >> http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
> >> far.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
> >> > "Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
> >> > AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
> >> > as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache"...
> >>
> >> I agree that the "Apache Mobile Filter" name might give the impression
> >> that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
> >> "Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server".
> >>
> >> -Bertrand
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
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> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>
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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?
Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@opendirective.com>.
On 4 October 2012 14:53, Idel Fuschini <id...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and is
> a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem
There is a potentially significant trademark problem (hence moving
this to trademarks@):
"The following uses of ASF trademarks are probably infringing:....
Software service offerings that are for anything other than official
ASF-distributed software."
and
"You may not use ASF trademarks such as "Apache" or "ApacheFoo" or
"Foo" in your own domain names if that use would be likely to confuse
a relevant consumer about the source of software or services provided
through your website"
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/
Ross
>
> Idel (owner of AMF)
>
> On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
>> >
>> > searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
>> > being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
>> > _closely_ connected ?...
>>
>> That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
>> http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
>> far.
>>
>> >
>> > ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
>> > "Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
>> > AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
>> > as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache"...
>>
>> I agree that the "Apache Mobile Filter" name might give the impression
>> that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
>> "Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server".
>>
>> -Bertrand
>>
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>>
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Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?
Posted by Idel Fuschini <id...@gmail.com>.
Apache Mobile Filter (or AMF) is the name of the project sine 2008, and is
a filter of Apache so I don't know what is the problem
Idel (owner of AMF)
On 4 October 2012 14:36, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
> >
> > searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
> > being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
> > _closely_ connected ?...
>
> That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
> http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
> far.
>
> >
> > ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
> > "Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
> > AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
> > as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache"...
>
> I agree that the "Apache Mobile Filter" name might give the impression
> that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
> "Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server".
>
> -Bertrand
>
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>
Re: 'Apache Mobile First' ?
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> https://twitter.com/smashingmag/status/253794604967669760
>
> searching in my mail-account for 'apachemobilefilter' I do see it
> being mentioned with the DeviceMap proposal - but is that project
> _closely_ connected ?...
That project has been mentioned on the devicemap dev list,
http://markmail.org/message/yfmu5h3n2tggy33n , but nothing more so
far.
>
> ...I think the following sentence is/was kinda confusing:
> "Apache Mobile Filter is the easiest way to detect mobile devices.
> AMF is a suite of tools that allow access to a Device Repository (such
> as WURFL, DetectRight, 51Degrees or others) directly from Apache"...
I agree that the "Apache Mobile Filter" name might give the impression
that that's an Apache project, but it's not, what that really is is a
"Mobile Filter for the Apache HTTP server".
-Bertrand
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