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Posted to dev@shiro.apache.org by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> on 2009/01/04 22:13:04 UTC
January board report
Hi guys,
it's time for a new report ! It should be done _before_ january, 12th.
Please update the wiki :
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2009
Thanks !
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cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: Please copy the January board report in the wiki !
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Les Hazlewood wrote:
> I copied it over as well - I enabled some links in the report so he
> could visit the STATUS page and other links directly if he wanted to.
>
Just fine !
Thanks Les !
(Hopefully, we didn't entered into the 'unacceptable' category ;)
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cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: Please copy the January board report in the wiki !
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
I copied it over as well - I enabled some links in the report so he
could visit the STATUS page and other links directly if he wanted to.
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> the report _have_ to be copied into the WIKI, not the link to SVN !!!
>
> Noel has many reports to read, if he has to follow every SVN links, he will
> spend the full day doing so !
>
> I have done the copy, please remind to do the same next time.
>
> Thanks !
>
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> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
>
Re: Please copy the January board report in the wiki !
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
On Jan 12, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> the report _have_ to be copied into the WIKI, not the link to SVN !!!
>>
>> Noel has many reports to read, if he has to follow every SVN links,
>> he will spend the full day doing so !
>>
>> I have done the copy, please remind to do the same next time.
>
> Is it just me
It's just you. ;-)
> or does it seem like keeping the reports in SVN then copying them to
> the wiki is overkill? I'm not sure what problem keeping them in SVN
> solves when there is always a discussion about the report on the dev
> list.
With the reports in svn I can trivially call up all of the reports
without even being connected to the internet.
Count keystrokes.
Craig
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: Please copy the January board report in the wiki !
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
>
> On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> the report _have_ to be copied into the WIKI, not the link to SVN !!!
>>
>> Noel has many reports to read, if he has to follow every SVN links,
>> he will spend the full day doing so !
>>
>> I have done the copy, please remind to do the same next time.
>
> Is it just me or does it seem like keeping the reports in SVN then
> copying them to the wiki is overkill? I'm not sure what problem
> keeping them in SVN solves when there is always a discussion about the
> report on the dev list.
It doesn't matter too much where the report is temporarily stored - or
not stored - as soon as it can be reviewed and put into the wiki. Purely
a matter of convenience, I think.
For Directory, we just post to PMC, and discuss it through the ML. The
very same for MINA. Then we push it to the board_agenda file (just to be
informative, for those who are interested to know how it works).
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cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: Please copy the January board report in the wiki !
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
On Jan 12, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> the report _have_ to be copied into the WIKI, not the link to SVN !!!
>
> Noel has many reports to read, if he has to follow every SVN links,
> he will spend the full day doing so !
>
> I have done the copy, please remind to do the same next time.
Is it just me or does it seem like keeping the reports in SVN then
copying them to the wiki is overkill? I'm not sure what problem
keeping them in SVN solves when there is always a discussion about the
report on the dev list.
Regards,
Alan
Please copy the January board report in the wiki !
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Hi guys,
the report _have_ to be copied into the WIKI, not the link to SVN !!!
Noel has many reports to read, if he has to follow every SVN links, he will spend the full day doing so !
I have done the copy, please remind to do the same next time.
Thanks !
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: January board report
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
Looks great. Thanks for picking this up!
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 11, 2009, at 4:44 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
> Ok, cool - thanks for the clarification. I just updated the report
> again to include both points.
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Alan D. Cabrera
> <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Fremantle is listed as one of our mentors on the JSecurity
>>> Proposal. He just didn't vote.
>>
>> Ahh, ok. Then it's more accurate to also state that one mentor did
>> not
>> vote.
>>
>>> I didn't mention the multiple build systems because I was unsure if
>>> that issue came to consensus or not. I stated that I didn't mind if
>>> both were in place, but then someone raised the issue as to what
>>> would
>>> be the 'formal' one that would be used for releases, and how we
>>> would
>>> maintain both, and I don't think that was ever answered or resolved
>>> among the team members. I just wasn't clear enough as to what to
>>> became of that discussion :/
>>
>> The builds are not that complicated. Any one would do. For
>> publication to
>> the Maven repository I imagine we would use the maven build system.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <list@toolazydogs.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "3 of the 5 project mentors ..." should read "Three of four project
>>>> mentors
>>>> ..."
>>>>
>>>> You neglected to mention that we would have both ant and maven
>>>> build
>>>> systems
>>>> in place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Alan
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Les Hazlewood <lhazlewood@apache.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. I'll
>>>>>> adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter
>>>>>>> open, as
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to
>>>>>>> vote such
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another
>>>>>>> direction
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just
>>>>>>> let us
>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> JSecurity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gotcha. I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the
>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a
>>>>>>> mentor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah yes, thanks. I'll add that as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that
>>>>>>> if we
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP
>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name,
>>>>>>> you may
>>>>>>> still be
>>>>>>> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds good. It is very helpful to learn when would be a good
>>>>>> time to
>>>>>> vote vs when to let discussion continue. This was a great
>>>>>> learning
>>>>>> experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
>>>>>> affords us. Thanks :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
Ok, cool - thanks for the clarification. I just updated the report
again to include both points.
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
>> Paul Fremantle is listed as one of our mentors on the JSecurity
>> Proposal. He just didn't vote.
>
> Ahh, ok. Then it's more accurate to also state that one mentor did not
> vote.
>
>> I didn't mention the multiple build systems because I was unsure if
>> that issue came to consensus or not. I stated that I didn't mind if
>> both were in place, but then someone raised the issue as to what would
>> be the 'formal' one that would be used for releases, and how we would
>> maintain both, and I don't think that was ever answered or resolved
>> among the team members. I just wasn't clear enough as to what to
>> became of that discussion :/
>
> The builds are not that complicated. Any one would do. For publication to
> the Maven repository I imagine we would use the maven build system.
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> "3 of the 5 project mentors ..." should read "Three of four project
>>> mentors
>>> ..."
>>>
>>> You neglected to mention that we would have both ant and maven build
>>> systems
>>> in place.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. I'll
>>>>> adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter open, as
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and the
>>>>>> result
>>>>>> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to vote such
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another
>>>>>> direction
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just let us
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> JSecurity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gotcha. I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the
>>>>> moment.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a
>>>>>> mentor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah yes, thanks. I'll add that as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for other
>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP issue.
>>>>>> No
>>>>>> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name, you may
>>>>>> still be
>>>>>> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good. It is very helpful to learn when would be a good time to
>>>>> vote vs when to let discussion continue. This was a great learning
>>>>> experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
>>>>> affords us. Thanks :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
On Jan 11, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
> Paul Fremantle is listed as one of our mentors on the JSecurity
> Proposal. He just didn't vote.
Ahh, ok. Then it's more accurate to also state that one mentor did
not vote.
> I didn't mention the multiple build systems because I was unsure if
> that issue came to consensus or not. I stated that I didn't mind if
> both were in place, but then someone raised the issue as to what would
> be the 'formal' one that would be used for releases, and how we would
> maintain both, and I don't think that was ever answered or resolved
> among the team members. I just wasn't clear enough as to what to
> became of that discussion :/
The builds are not that complicated. Any one would do. For
publication to the Maven repository I imagine we would use the maven
build system.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Alan D. Cabrera
> <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
>> "3 of the 5 project mentors ..." should read "Three of four project
>> mentors
>> ..."
>>
>> You neglected to mention that we would have both ant and maven
>> build systems
>> in place.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Alan
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>>
>>> I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
>>>
>>> Thanks again,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Les Hazlewood <lhazlewood@apache.org
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. I'll
>>>> adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
>>>>
>>>>> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter
>>>>> open, as
>>>>> more
>>>>> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and
>>>>> the
>>>>> result
>>>>> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to
>>>>> vote such
>>>>> an
>>>>> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another
>>>>> direction
>>>>> if
>>>>> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just
>>>>> let us
>>>>> using
>>>>> JSecurity.
>>>>
>>>> Gotcha. I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the
>>>> moment.
>>>>
>>>>> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a
>>>>> mentor.
>>>>
>>>> Ah yes, thanks. I'll add that as well.
>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for
>>>>> other
>>>>> comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if
>>>>> we are
>>>>> not
>>>>> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP
>>>>> issue. No
>>>>> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name, you
>>>>> may
>>>>> still be
>>>>> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good. It is very helpful to learn when would be a good
>>>> time to
>>>> vote vs when to let discussion continue. This was a great learning
>>>> experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
>>>> affords us. Thanks :)
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
Paul Fremantle is listed as one of our mentors on the JSecurity
Proposal. He just didn't vote.
I didn't mention the multiple build systems because I was unsure if
that issue came to consensus or not. I stated that I didn't mind if
both were in place, but then someone raised the issue as to what would
be the 'formal' one that would be used for releases, and how we would
maintain both, and I don't think that was ever answered or resolved
among the team members. I just wasn't clear enough as to what to
became of that discussion :/
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <li...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
> "3 of the 5 project mentors ..." should read "Three of four project mentors
> ..."
>
> You neglected to mention that we would have both ant and maven build systems
> in place.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
> On Jan 11, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
>
>> I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Les
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. I'll
>>> adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
>>>
>>>> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter open, as
>>>> more
>>>> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and the
>>>> result
>>>> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to vote such
>>>> an
>>>> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another direction
>>>> if
>>>> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just let us
>>>> using
>>>> JSecurity.
>>>
>>> Gotcha. I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the moment.
>>>
>>>> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a mentor.
>>>
>>> Ah yes, thanks. I'll add that as well.
>>>
>>>> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for other
>>>> comments.
>>>>
>>>> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if we are
>>>> not
>>>> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP issue. No
>>>> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name, you may
>>>> still be
>>>> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
>>>
>>> Sounds good. It is very helpful to learn when would be a good time to
>>> vote vs when to let discussion continue. This was a great learning
>>> experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
>>> affords us. Thanks :)
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Les
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Les Hazlewood wrote:
> I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
>
Just fine for me. Thanks !
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: January board report
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
"3 of the 5 project mentors ..." should read "Three of four project
mentors ..."
You neglected to mention that we would have both ant and maven build
systems in place.
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 11, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
> I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Les
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Les Hazlewood
> <lh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi Emmanuel,
>>
>> Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. I'll
>> adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
>>
>>> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter open,
>>> as more
>>> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and
>>> the result
>>> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to vote
>>> such an
>>> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another
>>> direction if
>>> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just let
>>> us using
>>> JSecurity.
>>
>> Gotcha. I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the
>> moment.
>>
>>> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a
>>> mentor.
>>
>> Ah yes, thanks. I'll add that as well.
>>
>>> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for other
>>> comments.
>>>
>>> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if
>>> we are not
>>> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP
>>> issue. No
>>> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name, you
>>> may still be
>>> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
>>
>> Sounds good. It is very helpful to learn when would be a good time
>> to
>> vote vs when to let discussion continue. This was a great learning
>> experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
>> affords us. Thanks :)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Les
>>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
I just updated the report - please lemme know if that is OK.
Thanks again,
Les
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Emmanuel,
>
> Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. I'll
> adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
>
>> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter open, as more
>> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and the result
>> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to vote such an
>> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another direction if
>> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just let us using
>> JSecurity.
>
> Gotcha. I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the moment.
>
>> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a mentor.
>
> Ah yes, thanks. I'll add that as well.
>
>> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for other
>> comments.
>>
>> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if we are not
>> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP issue. No
>> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name, you may still be
>> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
>
> Sounds good. It is very helpful to learn when would be a good time to
> vote vs when to let discussion continue. This was a great learning
> experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
> affords us. Thanks :)
>
> Best,
>
> Les
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
Hi Emmanuel,
Thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it a lot. I'll
adjust accordingly and re-notify so we can review again.
> 1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter open, as more
> IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and the result
> is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to vote such an
> item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another direction if
> Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals just let us using
> JSecurity.
Gotcha. I'll revise that section to say it is still open at the moment.
> 2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a mentor.
Ah yes, thanks. I'll add that as well.
> Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for other
> comments.
>
> [1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if we are not
> trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP issue. No
> matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name, you may still be
> forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
Sounds good. It is very helpful to learn when would be a good time to
vote vs when to let discussion continue. This was a great learning
experience for me, and is one of the great things the Incubator
affords us. Thanks :)
Best,
Les
Re: January board report
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Les Hazlewood wrote:
> I just added the report:
>
Thanks Les,
some comments :
1) About the name, I would suggest we just keep the matter open, as
more IPMC members are stepping in. Right now, the vote is closed and the
result is not positive, but (1) I don't think it was a good idea to vote
such an item [1] and (2) I'm not sure I won't cast my vote in another
direction if Juniper is not considered as a risk or if Juniper legals
just let us using JSecurity.
2) You have to mention that Alex Karasulu has stepped down as a mentor.
Otherwise, it's a pretty good report. We have one more day for other
comments.
[1] The reason I think it was not a good idea to vote is that if we are
not trying to solve an issue, but to determinate if there is an IP
issue. No matter if you get all the -1 needed to keep JSecurity name,
you may still be forced to change the name if The ASF get sued and lose.
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: January board report
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
For now, I just linked to that file from the wiki.
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org> wrote:
> I just added the report:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/jsecurity/board/2009-01.txt?view=markup&pathrev=733404
>
> Cheers,
>
> Les
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Craig L Russell wrote:
>>>
>>> Putting the reports into svn doesn't bypass either the community review or
>>> the wiki posting.
>>
>> yup.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I think we have more issues to discuss.
>>
>> It's not an issue, nor a discussion. What is important is to provide a
>> report for jan. 12th :)
>>
>> --
>> --
>> cordialement, regards,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>> www.iktek.com
>> directory.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Les Hazlewood <lh...@apache.org>.
I just added the report:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/jsecurity/board/2009-01.txt?view=markup&pathrev=733404
Cheers,
Les
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Craig L Russell wrote:
>>
>> Putting the reports into svn doesn't bypass either the community review or
>> the wiki posting.
>
> yup.
>>
>> Frankly, I think we have more issues to discuss.
>
> It's not an issue, nor a discussion. What is important is to provide a
> report for jan. 12th :)
>
> --
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Craig L Russell wrote:
> Putting the reports into svn doesn't bypass either the community
> review or the wiki posting.
yup.
>
> Frankly, I think we have more issues to discuss.
It's not an issue, nor a discussion. What is important is to provide a
report for jan. 12th :)
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: January board report
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Putting the reports into svn doesn't bypass either the community
review or the wiki posting.
Frankly, I think we have more issues to discuss.
Whatever.
On Jan 4, 2009, at 11:30 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> Craig L Russell wrote:
>> There are lots of other ways to do reports. This isn't a standard,
>> just a practice that I've used successfully with several other
>> projects.
> The big advantage of the wiki is that it can be reviewed by all of
> us, assuming that it's the final destination for the report, before
> it's forwarded to the board by the incubator chairman. We can also
> post a text file on the ML or in svn, but at the end of the day, it
> should be put on the wiki.
>
> --
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: January board report
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Craig L Russell wrote:
> There are lots of other ways to do reports. This isn't a standard,
> just a practice that I've used successfully with several other projects.
The big advantage of the wiki is that it can be reviewed by all of us,
assuming that it's the final destination for the report, before it's
forwarded to the board by the incubator chairman. We can also post a
text file on the ML or in svn, but at the end of the day, it should be
put on the wiki.
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: January board report
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
There are lots of other ways to do reports. This isn't a standard,
just a practice that I've used successfully with several other projects.
Craig
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:24 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:
> Why not just post the report to the dev list then when it's
> finalized put it on the wiki?
>
>
> Regards,
> Alan
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
>
>> If you check it into the svn, everyone on the project can review it
>> (if you just put it into the wiki, folks who are not subscribed
>> wouldn't know it was there).
>>
>> After everyone has seen and possibly updated it, the author will
>> copy it into the wiki.
>>
>> This isn't a standard, just a practice that I've used successfully
>> with several other projects.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
>>
>>> Do we have to copy it over into the Wiki?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have board reports in svn under incubator/jsecurity/board.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> it's time for a new report ! It should be done _before_
>>>>> january, 12th.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please update the wiki :
>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2009
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> cordialement, regards,
>>>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>>>> www.iktek.com
>>>>> directory.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: January board report
Posted by "Alan D. Cabrera" <li...@toolazydogs.com>.
Why not just post the report to the dev list then when it's finalized
put it on the wiki?
Regards,
Alan
On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:
> If you check it into the svn, everyone on the project can review it
> (if you just put it into the wiki, folks who are not subscribed
> wouldn't know it was there).
>
> After everyone has seen and possibly updated it, the author will
> copy it into the wiki.
>
> This isn't a standard, just a practice that I've used successfully
> with several other projects.
>
> Craig
>
> On Jan 4, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
>
>> Do we have to copy it over into the Wiki?
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Craig L Russell <Craig.Russell@sun.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>>> We have board reports in svn under incubator/jsecurity/board.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>> it's time for a new report ! It should be done _before_ january,
>>>> 12th.
>>>>
>>>> Please update the wiki :
>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2009
>>>>
>>>> Thanks !
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> cordialement, regards,
>>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>>> www.iktek.com
>>>> directory.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>
>>>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
If you check it into the svn, everyone on the project can review it
(if you just put it into the wiki, folks who are not subscribed
wouldn't know it was there).
After everyone has seen and possibly updated it, the author will copy
it into the wiki.
This isn't a standard, just a practice that I've used successfully
with several other projects.
Craig
On Jan 4, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
> Do we have to copy it over into the Wiki?
>
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Craig L Russell
> <Cr...@sun.com>wrote:
>
>> We have board reports in svn under incubator/jsecurity/board.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> it's time for a new report ! It should be done _before_ january,
>>> 12th.
>>>
>>> Please update the wiki :
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2009
>>>
>>> Thanks !
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> cordialement, regards,
>>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>>> www.iktek.com
>>> directory.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: January board report
Posted by Alex Karasulu <ak...@gmail.com>.
Do we have to copy it over into the Wiki?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com>wrote:
> We have board reports in svn under incubator/jsecurity/board.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>>
>> it's time for a new report ! It should be done _before_ january, 12th.
>>
>> Please update the wiki :
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2009
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>> --
>> --
>> cordialement, regards,
>> Emmanuel Lécharny
>> www.iktek.com
>> directory.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
Re: January board report
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
We have board reports in svn under incubator/jsecurity/board.
Craig
On Jan 4, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> it's time for a new report ! It should be done _before_ january,
> 12th.
>
> Please update the wiki :
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2009
>
> Thanks !
>
> --
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!