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RT 32992

https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32992

Taking a poll again of who supports this issue resolution.  Given that
the previous stable version of perl (5.10.1) has version.pm bundled
(current version is 5.12.0), I think this is safe move.  5.8.8 does
not have version.pm bundled, but it is easy enough to install.

+1

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Re: RT 32992

Posted by Fred Moyer <fr...@redhotpenguin.com>.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Philip M. Gollucci
<pg...@p6m7g8.com> wrote:
> On 04/16/10 19:11, Fred Moyer wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have 5.6.x to test with?
>>
>> I know of a couple shops using 5.6, but they monkey patched it, and
>> will probably never upgrade.
>
> with mp2 ? wow.

mp1.

>> I see 5.8 being widely used still for years to come.
>
> yes sir.
>
> its all moot anyway until 2.0.5 is out the door.

I know Gozer is working on a 2.0.5 RM, but there's a possibility I may
be able to knock out *all* remaining Apache::Test bugs shortly if we
can get consensus on some of these issues.

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Re: RT 32992

Posted by "Philip M. Gollucci" <pg...@p6m7g8.com>.
On 04/16/10 19:11, Fred Moyer wrote:
> Does anyone have 5.6.x to test with?
>
> I know of a couple shops using 5.6, but they monkey patched it, and
> will probably never upgrade.
with mp2 ? wow.

> I see 5.8 being widely used still for years to come.
yes sir.

its all moot anyway until 2.0.5 is out the door.




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Re: RT 32992

Posted by Fred Moyer <fr...@redhotpenguin.com>.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Philip M. Gollucci
<pg...@p6m7g8.com> wrote:
> On 04/16/10 13:47, Vick Khera wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:
>>
>>> https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32992
>>>
>>> Taking a poll again of who supports this issue resolution.  Given that
>>> the previous stable version of perl (5.10.1) has version.pm bundled
>>> (current version is 5.12.0), I think this is safe move.  5.8.8 does
>>> not have version.pm bundled, but it is easy enough to install.
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>> How long do we plan to support 5.8 anyhow?
>
> You gotta drop 5.6.x 1st.

Does anyone have 5.6.x to test with?

I know of a couple shops using 5.6, but they monkey patched it, and
will probably never upgrade.

I see 5.8 being widely used still for years to come.

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Re: RT 32992

Posted by "Philip M. Gollucci" <pg...@p6m7g8.com>.
On 04/16/10 13:47, Vick Khera wrote:
>
> On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:
>
>> https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32992
>>
>> Taking a poll again of who supports this issue resolution.  Given that
>> the previous stable version of perl (5.10.1) has version.pm bundled
>> (current version is 5.12.0), I think this is safe move.  5.8.8 does
>> not have version.pm bundled, but it is easy enough to install.
>>
>> +1
>
> How long do we plan to support 5.8 anyhow?
You gotta drop 5.6.x 1st.


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Re: RT 32992

Posted by Vick Khera <kh...@kcilink.com>.
On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:

> https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32992
> 
> Taking a poll again of who supports this issue resolution.  Given that
> the previous stable version of perl (5.10.1) has version.pm bundled
> (current version is 5.12.0), I think this is safe move.  5.8.8 does
> not have version.pm bundled, but it is easy enough to install.
> 
> +1

How long do we plan to support 5.8 anyhow?

+1


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Re: RT 32992

Posted by Fred Moyer <fr...@redhotpenguin.com>.
Thanks for taking the time to lay out this solid argument Torsten.  I
wasn't able to duplicate the issue either.

I've resolved https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32992 by not
applying the suggested patch.  I think the submitter may have had an
odd setup, but there wasn't enough evidence to show what exactly was
going wrong so that we could duplicate it.

Only 1 more open Apache::Test bug!

2010/4/16 Torsten Förtsch <to...@gmx.net>:
> On Friday 16 April 2010 04:02:17 Fred Moyer wrote:
>> https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32992
>>
>> Taking a poll again of who supports this issue resolution.  Given that
>> the previous stable version of perl (5.10.1) has version.pm bundled
>> (current version is 5.12.0), I think this is safe move.  5.8.8 does
>> not have version.pm bundled, but it is easy enough to install.
>>
> Sorry, but I don't understand the source of the problem. Is it that EU::MM
> uses version numbers of the form 6.06_12? We need at least 6.06, right?
> 6.06_01 will do as well, right?
>
> $ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.05_99"; my $v2="6.06"; print "less" if
> 0+$v1<0+$v2'
> less
> $ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.05_99"; my $v2="6.06"; print "less" if
> version->new($v1)<version->new($v2)'
> less
>
> $ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.06"; my $v2="6.06_01"; print "less" if
> 0+$v1<0+$v2'
> $ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.06"; my $v2="6.06_01"; print "less" if
> version->new($v1)<version->new($v2)'
> less
>
> There is a difference. Without version it is
>
>  6.05_99<6.06 and 6.06==6.06_01
>
> though with version it is
>
>  6.05_99<6.06 and 6.06<6.06_01
>
> But our case is 6.05_99<6.06. Obviously I have missed something.
>
> Torsten Förtsch
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Re: RT 32992

Posted by Torsten Förtsch <to...@gmx.net>.
On Friday 16 April 2010 04:02:17 Fred Moyer wrote:
> https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=32992
> 
> Taking a poll again of who supports this issue resolution.  Given that
> the previous stable version of perl (5.10.1) has version.pm bundled
> (current version is 5.12.0), I think this is safe move.  5.8.8 does
> not have version.pm bundled, but it is easy enough to install.
> 
Sorry, but I don't understand the source of the problem. Is it that EU::MM 
uses version numbers of the form 6.06_12? We need at least 6.06, right? 
6.06_01 will do as well, right?

$ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.05_99"; my $v2="6.06"; print "less" if 
0+$v1<0+$v2'
less
$ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.05_99"; my $v2="6.06"; print "less" if 
version->new($v1)<version->new($v2)'
less

$ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.06"; my $v2="6.06_01"; print "less" if 
0+$v1<0+$v2'
$ perl -Mversion -le 'my $v1="6.06"; my $v2="6.06_01"; print "less" if 
version->new($v1)<version->new($v2)'
less

There is a difference. Without version it is

  6.05_99<6.06 and 6.06==6.06_01

though with version it is

  6.05_99<6.06 and 6.06<6.06_01

But our case is 6.05_99<6.06. Obviously I have missed something.

Torsten Förtsch

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