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Re: AOO 4 unusable under Linux64?
Hi,
On 30.09.2013 17:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 29.09.2013 07:30, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Edwin Sharp and some other users found several bugs [1] under Linux64,
>> in summary the conclusion seems to be that AOO currently is more or less
>> unusable with Linux 64.
>>
>> Can some developers please have a look?
>>
>
> I will have a closer look at these issues in my Ubuntu 64bit 10.04 VM.
> On this VM I have snapshots with different OpenOffice versions - namely
> OOo 3.3.0, AOO 3.4.0 and AOO401RC2. Thus, I can check, if the defects
> are newly introduced or already present in a former version.
>
> I will also check on my Windows 7 64bit, if the defects are also
> reproducible on this platform.
>
My intermediate report.
I had a look at about half of the initial 28 reported issues. Due to my
investigations the below given buglist now only shows 22 issues.
- 121322 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
- 121694 - platform-independent and most likely not a bug
- 122278 - duplicate of 122279 which is platform-independent
- 122281 - platform-independent, broken since OOo 3.4Beta
- 122333 - still unclear and unconfirmed
- 122480 - until now not reproducible - it is still unconfirmed
- 122715 - still unconfirmed and reporter's feedback pending
- 122726 - still under investigation by others --> no investigation from
my side
- 123348 - already known and depending other software installed on the
system; also reporter answers pending
- 121290 - related to build environment - users are not affected;
workaround available
- 121312 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
- 122014 - seems to be fixed in AOO 4.0.1
- 122737 - platform-independent
Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>> Used Hyperlinks:
>> [1]
>> <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=-360d&chfieldto=Now&columnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%2Copendate%2Creporter&f1=op_sys&list_id=93343&o1=substring&op_sys=Linux64&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=linux>
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Re: AOO 4 unusable under Linux64?
Posted by Liu Ping <do...@gmail.com>.
Hi
I check 5 unconfirm issues, Attempt to confirm 4 issues (except for one
issue which belong to "code" component ) , According by my testing result
and other volunteer's previous comments , two reasons lead to fail to
confirm these issues
1.Lack detail steps to reproduce
2.Have ambiguous expression for certain steps or words
122333 <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122333>
122480<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122480>
122715 <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122715>
122726<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122726>
All 4 issues need to be provided more information by reporter , and give
"needmoreinfo" Keyword to these issues
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittmann@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
>
> On 02.10.2013 15:57, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 30.09.2013 17:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 29.09.2013 07:30, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Edwin Sharp and some other users found several bugs [1] under Linux64,
>>>> in summary the conclusion seems to be that AOO currently is more or less
>>>> unusable with Linux 64.
>>>>
>>>> Can some developers please have a look?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I will have a closer look at these issues in my Ubuntu 64bit 10.04 VM.
>>> On this VM I have snapshots with different OpenOffice versions - namely
>>> OOo 3.3.0, AOO 3.4.0 and AOO401RC2. Thus, I can check, if the defects
>>> are newly introduced or already present in a former version.
>>>
>>> I will also check on my Windows 7 64bit, if the defects are also
>>> reproducible on this platform.
>>>
>>>
>> My intermediate report.
>> I had a look at about half of the initial 28 reported issues. Due to my
>> investigations the below given buglist now only shows 22 issues.
>> - 121322 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
>> - 121694 - platform-independent and most likely not a bug
>> - 122278 - duplicate of 122279 which is platform-independent
>> - 122281 - platform-independent, broken since OOo 3.4Beta
>> - 122333 - still unclear and unconfirmed
>> - 122480 - until now not reproducible - it is still unconfirmed
>> - 122715 - still unconfirmed and reporter's feedback pending
>> - 122726 - still under investigation by others --> no investigation from
>> my side
>> - 123348 - already known and depending other software installed on the
>> system; also reporter answers pending
>> - 121290 - related to build environment - users are not affected;
>> workaround available
>> - 121312 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
>> - 122014 - seems to be fixed in AOO 4.0.1
>> - 122737 - platform-independent
>>
>>
> I have finished my investigation. The below given buglist shows now 8
> issues. 5 out of 8 are still not confirmed. From the remaining three one is
> a problem in the build environment, another one is a known conflict with an
> installed LibreOffice instance and the third one is a problem with an
> extension.
> Details on the issues I had investigated since my intermediate report are:
> - 122738 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.3.0
> - 122741 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 122742 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.3.0
> - 122743 - not reproducible; resolved as NOTABUG by reporter in the
> meanwhile
> - 123350 - platform-independent; regression introduced in AOO 4.0.0
> - 123351 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123353 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123354 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123355 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123357 - platform-independent; resolved as NOTABUG
> - 123359 - platform-independent; regression introduced in AOO 4.0.0
> - 123360 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123362 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123363 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
>
>
> Thus, I do not draw the conclusion that AOO is unusable on Linux 64bit.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
>>>> Used Hyperlinks:
>>>> [1]
>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/**ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%**
>>>> 20creation]&chfieldfrom=-360d&**chfieldto=Now&columnlist=**
>>>> product%2Ccomponent%**2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%**
>>>> 2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%**2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%**
>>>> 2Copendate%2Creporter&f1=op_**sys&list_id=93343&o1=**
>>>> substring&op_sys=Linux64&**query_format=advanced&**
>>>> resolution=---&v1=linux<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=-360d&chfieldto=Now&columnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%2Copendate%2Creporter&f1=op_sys&list_id=93343&o1=substring&op_sys=Linux64&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=linux>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: AOO 4 unusable under Linux64?
Posted by Liu Ping <do...@gmail.com>.
Hi
I check 5 unconfirm issues, Attempt to confirm 4 issues (except for one
issue which belong to "code" component ) , According by my testing result
and other volunteer's previous comments , two reasons lead to fail to
confirm these issues
1.Lack detail steps to reproduce
2.Have ambiguous expression for certain steps or words
122333 <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122333>
122480<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122480>
122715 <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122715>
122726<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122726>
All 4 issues need to be provided more information by reporter , and give
"needmoreinfo" Keyword to these issues
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittmann@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
>
> On 02.10.2013 15:57, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 30.09.2013 17:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 29.09.2013 07:30, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Edwin Sharp and some other users found several bugs [1] under Linux64,
>>>> in summary the conclusion seems to be that AOO currently is more or less
>>>> unusable with Linux 64.
>>>>
>>>> Can some developers please have a look?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I will have a closer look at these issues in my Ubuntu 64bit 10.04 VM.
>>> On this VM I have snapshots with different OpenOffice versions - namely
>>> OOo 3.3.0, AOO 3.4.0 and AOO401RC2. Thus, I can check, if the defects
>>> are newly introduced or already present in a former version.
>>>
>>> I will also check on my Windows 7 64bit, if the defects are also
>>> reproducible on this platform.
>>>
>>>
>> My intermediate report.
>> I had a look at about half of the initial 28 reported issues. Due to my
>> investigations the below given buglist now only shows 22 issues.
>> - 121322 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
>> - 121694 - platform-independent and most likely not a bug
>> - 122278 - duplicate of 122279 which is platform-independent
>> - 122281 - platform-independent, broken since OOo 3.4Beta
>> - 122333 - still unclear and unconfirmed
>> - 122480 - until now not reproducible - it is still unconfirmed
>> - 122715 - still unconfirmed and reporter's feedback pending
>> - 122726 - still under investigation by others --> no investigation from
>> my side
>> - 123348 - already known and depending other software installed on the
>> system; also reporter answers pending
>> - 121290 - related to build environment - users are not affected;
>> workaround available
>> - 121312 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
>> - 122014 - seems to be fixed in AOO 4.0.1
>> - 122737 - platform-independent
>>
>>
> I have finished my investigation. The below given buglist shows now 8
> issues. 5 out of 8 are still not confirmed. From the remaining three one is
> a problem in the build environment, another one is a known conflict with an
> installed LibreOffice instance and the third one is a problem with an
> extension.
> Details on the issues I had investigated since my intermediate report are:
> - 122738 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.3.0
> - 122741 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 122742 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.3.0
> - 122743 - not reproducible; resolved as NOTABUG by reporter in the
> meanwhile
> - 123350 - platform-independent; regression introduced in AOO 4.0.0
> - 123351 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123353 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123354 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123355 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123357 - platform-independent; resolved as NOTABUG
> - 123359 - platform-independent; regression introduced in AOO 4.0.0
> - 123360 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123362 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
> - 123363 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
>
>
> Thus, I do not draw the conclusion that AOO is unusable on Linux 64bit.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>
>
>>>> Used Hyperlinks:
>>>> [1]
>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/**ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%**
>>>> 20creation]&chfieldfrom=-360d&**chfieldto=Now&columnlist=**
>>>> product%2Ccomponent%**2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%**
>>>> 2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%**2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%**
>>>> 2Copendate%2Creporter&f1=op_**sys&list_id=93343&o1=**
>>>> substring&op_sys=Linux64&**query_format=advanced&**
>>>> resolution=---&v1=linux<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=-360d&chfieldto=Now&columnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%2Copendate%2Creporter&f1=op_sys&list_id=93343&o1=substring&op_sys=Linux64&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=linux>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: AOO 4 unusable under Linux64?
Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi again,
On 02.10.2013 15:57, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 30.09.2013 17:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 29.09.2013 07:30, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Edwin Sharp and some other users found several bugs [1] under Linux64,
>>> in summary the conclusion seems to be that AOO currently is more or less
>>> unusable with Linux 64.
>>>
>>> Can some developers please have a look?
>>>
>>
>> I will have a closer look at these issues in my Ubuntu 64bit 10.04 VM.
>> On this VM I have snapshots with different OpenOffice versions - namely
>> OOo 3.3.0, AOO 3.4.0 and AOO401RC2. Thus, I can check, if the defects
>> are newly introduced or already present in a former version.
>>
>> I will also check on my Windows 7 64bit, if the defects are also
>> reproducible on this platform.
>>
>
> My intermediate report.
> I had a look at about half of the initial 28 reported issues. Due to my
> investigations the below given buglist now only shows 22 issues.
> - 121322 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
> - 121694 - platform-independent and most likely not a bug
> - 122278 - duplicate of 122279 which is platform-independent
> - 122281 - platform-independent, broken since OOo 3.4Beta
> - 122333 - still unclear and unconfirmed
> - 122480 - until now not reproducible - it is still unconfirmed
> - 122715 - still unconfirmed and reporter's feedback pending
> - 122726 - still under investigation by others --> no investigation from
> my side
> - 123348 - already known and depending other software installed on the
> system; also reporter answers pending
> - 121290 - related to build environment - users are not affected;
> workaround available
> - 121312 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
> - 122014 - seems to be fixed in AOO 4.0.1
> - 122737 - platform-independent
>
I have finished my investigation. The below given buglist shows now 8
issues. 5 out of 8 are still not confirmed. From the remaining three one
is a problem in the build environment, another one is a known conflict
with an installed LibreOffice instance and the third one is a problem
with an extension.
Details on the issues I had investigated since my intermediate report are:
- 122738 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.3.0
- 122741 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
- 122742 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.3.0
- 122743 - not reproducible; resolved as NOTABUG by reporter in the
meanwhile
- 123350 - platform-independent; regression introduced in AOO 4.0.0
- 123351 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
- 123353 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
- 123354 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
- 123355 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
- 123357 - platform-independent; resolved as NOTABUG
- 123359 - platform-independent; regression introduced in AOO 4.0.0
- 123360 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
- 123362 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
- 123363 - platform-independent; occurs at least since OOo 3.2.0
Thus, I do not draw the conclusion that AOO is unusable on Linux 64bit.
Best regards, Oliver.
>>>
>>> Used Hyperlinks:
>>> [1]
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfieldfrom=-360d&chfieldto=Now&columnlist=product%2Ccomponent%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate%2Cversion%2Copendate%2Creporter&f1=op_sys&list_id=93343&o1=substring&op_sys=Linux64&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=linux>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: AOO 4 unusable under Linux64?
Posted by Herbert Duerr <hd...@apache.org>.
On 02.10.2013 15:57, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 30.09.2013 17:17, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 29.09.2013 07:30, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Edwin Sharp and some other users found several bugs [1] under Linux64,
>>> in summary the conclusion seems to be that AOO currently is more or less
>>> unusable with Linux 64.
>>>
>>> Can some developers please have a look?
>>>
>>
>> I will have a closer look at these issues in my Ubuntu 64bit 10.04 VM.
>> On this VM I have snapshots with different OpenOffice versions - namely
>> OOo 3.3.0, AOO 3.4.0 and AOO401RC2. Thus, I can check, if the defects
>> are newly introduced or already present in a former version.
>>
>> I will also check on my Windows 7 64bit, if the defects are also
>> reproducible on this platform.
>>
>
> My intermediate report.
> I had a look at about half of the initial 28 reported issues. Due to my
> investigations the below given buglist now only shows 22 issues.
> - 121322 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
> - 121694 - platform-independent and most likely not a bug
> - 122278 - duplicate of 122279 which is platform-independent
> - 122281 - platform-independent, broken since OOo 3.4Beta
> - 122333 - still unclear and unconfirmed
> - 122480 - until now not reproducible - it is still unconfirmed
> - 122715 - still unconfirmed and reporter's feedback pending
> - 122726 - still under investigation by others --> no investigation from
> my side
> - 123348 - already known and depending other software installed on the
> system; also reporter answers pending
> - 121290 - related to build environment - users are not affected;
> workaround available
> - 121312 - not my area of expertise - no investigations from my side
> - 122014 - seems to be fixed in AOO 4.0.1
> - 122737 - platform-independent
So this initial assessments shows that there is no Linux64 specific
badness, it just proves the assumption that the platform field was set
to "Linux64" not because the issues were analyzed to be Linux64
specific. They were just reported for that popular platform because it
has many power users of Apache OpenOffice.
And it shows that an issue's Operating-System field is somewhat
ambiguous. For the reporter the field means the operating system where
the problem occurs. As was seen in the original mail of this thread it
can also get interpreted differently: to evaluate the quality of AOO's
support for a platform. This would only work if the field was more reliable.
To make it more reliable I suggest that the field gets adjusted when the
issue gets confirmed or when the platform impact of a problem is better
known. E.g. when users report the issue on different platforms or when
the issue has been analyzed and the root cause is understood to be
platform independent.
Herbert
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