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Posted to dev@manifoldcf.apache.org by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> on 2010/09/01 00:44:16 UTC
[VOTE] Pick your preferred name
I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list with
a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
are:
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Acromantula
Apache Manifold
Apache ManifoldCF
Apache Multiplex
Apache Lucon
Apache Lukon
Apache Yukon
Apache Macon
Apache Omni
Apache Omnivore
Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
Karl
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure Robert's strategy should be legal. It never honestly occurred
> to me that anyone would try to do that. For that reason, I am toying with
> the idea of just counting his first (highest) vote, which right now would
> still yield the same result. I think that meets everyone's expectations
> appropriately.
>
>
+1, I was just emphasizing a point (it shouldnt count 3 times, thats not
fair)
--
Robert Muir
rcmuir@gmail.com
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
I'm not sure Robert's strategy should be legal. It never honestly occurred
to me that anyone would try to do that. For that reason, I am toying with
the idea of just counting his first (highest) vote, which right now would
still yield the same result. I think that meets everyone's expectations
appropriately.
As for revoting to boost one result upwards, that's perfectly valid, as long
as we don't devolve into indefinite rounds of revoting. ;-)
Karl
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/2/10 8:21 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
> > You have until 5 PM Friday to tally your final vote.
> >
> > Bear in mind, however, that changing your vote to achieve a desired
> outcome
> > may well cause others to change their votes to counteract your move. So
> I
> > urge people to change your vote ONLY if you want to add Apache Datasource
> > Connectors into your list somewhere.
> >
> > Karl
> >
>
> It's probably a fair move though - I doubt Jack realized how the votes
> would be tallied (eg that Roberts vote would have so much weight for one
> name). I had no clue - the original vote sounded like you needed to pick
> 3 different options and didn't explain how those options would count
> towards the final name. So it seems fair that he change it, right?
>
> - Mark
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
On 9/2/10 8:21 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
> You have until 5 PM Friday to tally your final vote.
>
> Bear in mind, however, that changing your vote to achieve a desired outcome
> may well cause others to change their votes to counteract your move. So I
> urge people to change your vote ONLY if you want to add Apache Datasource
> Connectors into your list somewhere.
>
> Karl
>
It's probably a fair move though - I doubt Jack realized how the votes
would be tallied (eg that Roberts vote would have so much weight for one
name). I had no clue - the original vote sounded like you needed to pick
3 different options and didn't explain how those options would count
towards the final name. So it seems fair that he change it, right?
- Mark
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Voting is now closed.
Final tally (which only counts Robert's first choice and not all three):
Apache Connectors Framework 15
Apache Manifold 11
Apache Yukon 9
Apache Macon 4
Apache ManifoldCF 3
Apache Omni 1
Apache Acromantula 1
Apache Lukon 1
Grant, I trust you are in a position to inform general@incubator.org of this
vote?
Karl
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The consensus was that Robert had used an illegal voting algorithm, and we
> were going to include his first-choice vote.
> Vote indeed closes in 6 minutes, though.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jack Krupansky <
> jack.krupansky@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
>
>> That's like 10 minutes from now... unless the hurricane delays the close
>> of the vote?
>>
>> I was tempted to vote Manifold x 3, but I'll keep my vote as is.
>>
>>
>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:21 AM
>>
>> To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
>>
>> You have until 5 PM Friday to tally your final vote.
>>>
>>> Bear in mind, however, that changing your vote to achieve a desired
>>> outcome
>>> may well cause others to change their votes to counteract your move. So
>>> I
>>> urge people to change your vote ONLY if you want to add Apache Datasource
>>> Connectors into your list somewhere.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Jack Krupansky <
>>> jack.krupansky@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmmm... so we can change our votes? I am toying with voting Manifold for
>>>> all three choices since I would prefer an Apache-style short abstract
>>>> name
>>>> and that is the leading one so far. I haven't decided for sure yet.
>>>>
>>>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:02 AM
>>>> To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A late entry has been added: Apache Datasource Connectors.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you would like to change your vote to include this option, please
>>>>> revote,
>>>>> and I will adjust accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores
>>>>> are
>>>>>
>>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework 18
>>>>>> Apache Manifold 11
>>>>>> Apache Yukon 9
>>>>>> Apache Macon 4
>>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF 3
>>>>>> Apache Omni 1
>>>>>> Apache Acromantula 1
>>>>>> Apache Lukon 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all
>>>>>> 6
>>>>>> points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the
>>>>>> results
>>>>>> is currently clear...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> evening.
>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsingers@apache.org
>>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's mine:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>>>> Apache Manifold
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5
>>>>>>>> > PM
>>>>>>>> EDT
>>>>>>>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Karl
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the
>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the
>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>>>>>>> >> are:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Acromantula
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Manifold
>>>>>>>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Multiplex
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Lucon
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Lukon
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Yukon
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Macon
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Omni
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Omnivore
>>>>>>>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>>>>>>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely >>
>>>>>>>> please.
>>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Karl
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston
>>>>>>>> Oct
>>>>>>>> 7-8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
The consensus was that Robert had used an illegal voting algorithm, and we
were going to include his first-choice vote.
Vote indeed closes in 6 minutes, though.
Karl
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jack Krupansky <
jack.krupansky@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
> That's like 10 minutes from now... unless the hurricane delays the close of
> the vote?
>
> I was tempted to vote Manifold x 3, but I'll keep my vote as is.
>
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:21 AM
>
> To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
>
> You have until 5 PM Friday to tally your final vote.
>>
>> Bear in mind, however, that changing your vote to achieve a desired
>> outcome
>> may well cause others to change their votes to counteract your move. So I
>> urge people to change your vote ONLY if you want to add Apache Datasource
>> Connectors into your list somewhere.
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Jack Krupansky <
>> jack.krupansky@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm... so we can change our votes? I am toying with voting Manifold for
>>> all three choices since I would prefer an Apache-style short abstract
>>> name
>>> and that is the leading one so far. I haven't decided for sure yet.
>>>
>>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:02 AM
>>> To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
>>>
>>>
>>> A late entry has been added: Apache Datasource Connectors.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you would like to change your vote to include this option, please
>>>> revote,
>>>> and I will adjust accordingly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores
>>>> are
>>>>
>>>>> as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework 18
>>>>> Apache Manifold 11
>>>>> Apache Yukon 9
>>>>> Apache Macon 4
>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF 3
>>>>> Apache Omni 1
>>>>> Apache Acromantula 1
>>>>> Apache Lukon 1
>>>>>
>>>>> To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points to
>>>>> their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all
>>>>> 6
>>>>> points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the
>>>>> results
>>>>> is currently clear...
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
>>>>>
>>>>>> evening.
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsingers@apache.org
>>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's mine:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>>> Apache Manifold
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 >
>>>>>>> PM
>>>>>>> EDT
>>>>>>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Karl
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>>>>>> >> are:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>>> >> Apache Acromantula
>>>>>>> >> Apache Manifold
>>>>>>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>>> >> Apache Multiplex
>>>>>>> >> Apache Lucon
>>>>>>> >> Apache Lukon
>>>>>>> >> Apache Yukon
>>>>>>> >> Apache Macon
>>>>>>> >> Apache Omni
>>>>>>> >> Apache Omnivore
>>>>>>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>>>>>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely >>
>>>>>>> please.
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Karl
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston
>>>>>>> Oct
>>>>>>> 7-8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@lucidimagination.com>.
That's like 10 minutes from now... unless the hurricane delays the close of
the vote?
I was tempted to vote Manifold x 3, but I'll keep my vote as is.
-- Jack Krupansky
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:21 AM
To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
> You have until 5 PM Friday to tally your final vote.
>
> Bear in mind, however, that changing your vote to achieve a desired
> outcome
> may well cause others to change their votes to counteract your move. So I
> urge people to change your vote ONLY if you want to add Apache Datasource
> Connectors into your list somewhere.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Jack Krupansky <
> jack.krupansky@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm... so we can change our votes? I am toying with voting Manifold for
>> all three choices since I would prefer an Apache-style short abstract
>> name
>> and that is the leading one so far. I haven't decided for sure yet.
>>
>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:02 AM
>> To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
>>
>>
>> A late entry has been added: Apache Datasource Connectors.
>>>
>>> If you would like to change your vote to include this option, please
>>> revote,
>>> and I will adjust accordingly.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores
>>> are
>>>> as follows:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apache Connectors Framework 18
>>>> Apache Manifold 11
>>>> Apache Yukon 9
>>>> Apache Macon 4
>>>> Apache ManifoldCF 3
>>>> Apache Omni 1
>>>> Apache Acromantula 1
>>>> Apache Lukon 1
>>>>
>>>> To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points to
>>>> their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all
>>>> 6
>>>> points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the
>>>> results
>>>> is currently clear...
>>>>
>>>> Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
>>>>> evening.
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsingers@apache.org
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's mine:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>> Apache Manifold
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5
>>>>>> > PM
>>>>>> EDT
>>>>>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Karl
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>>>>>> currently
>>>>>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>>>>> >> are:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>> >> Apache Acromantula
>>>>>> >> Apache Manifold
>>>>>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>> >> Apache Multiplex
>>>>>> >> Apache Lucon
>>>>>> >> Apache Lukon
>>>>>> >> Apache Yukon
>>>>>> >> Apache Macon
>>>>>> >> Apache Omni
>>>>>> >> Apache Omnivore
>>>>>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>>>>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely
>>>>>> >> please.
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Karl
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
>>>>>> 7-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@lucidimagination.com>.
If people want to abandon the weaker candidates and give the stronger
candidates a bigger win, that seems reasonable and desirable. That said, I
may just stick with my original votes on principle.
If "Datasource Connector" also had an abstract name in front of it (like
"Apache Conda Datasource Connector", I'd be more in favor of it. It is much
easier to write and say "Conda" than any of those longer descriptive names.
Or how about... "Anaconda" - "Apache Anaconda" or "Apache Anaconda
Datasource Connector" or "Apache Anaconda Connectors Framework". Rats, there
is already a Fedora project called Anaconda. But "Conda" still seems
promising.
The real problem with the longer names is that they have to be turned into
acronyms and that is what really gets used most of the time. Presumably the
leading "A" for "Apache" should not be part of the acronym, so the proper
acronym for "Apache Connectors Framework" should be CF, but I imagine it
will go by ACF since that is what seems in use today. I am just wondering
how it will be listed on the Apache project list and what subdomain name
will be used for the project once it graduates from incubation. I checked
and the actual usage is mixed; sometimes the words are catenated and
sometimes an acronym is used, but not with a leading "a".
-- Jack Krupansky
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:21 AM
To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
> You have until 5 PM Friday to tally your final vote.
>
> Bear in mind, however, that changing your vote to achieve a desired
> outcome
> may well cause others to change their votes to counteract your move. So I
> urge people to change your vote ONLY if you want to add Apache Datasource
> Connectors into your list somewhere.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Jack Krupansky <
> jack.krupansky@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm... so we can change our votes? I am toying with voting Manifold for
>> all three choices since I would prefer an Apache-style short abstract
>> name
>> and that is the leading one so far. I haven't decided for sure yet.
>>
>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:02 AM
>> To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
>>
>>
>> A late entry has been added: Apache Datasource Connectors.
>>>
>>> If you would like to change your vote to include this option, please
>>> revote,
>>> and I will adjust accordingly.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores
>>> are
>>>> as follows:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Apache Connectors Framework 18
>>>> Apache Manifold 11
>>>> Apache Yukon 9
>>>> Apache Macon 4
>>>> Apache ManifoldCF 3
>>>> Apache Omni 1
>>>> Apache Acromantula 1
>>>> Apache Lukon 1
>>>>
>>>> To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points to
>>>> their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all
>>>> 6
>>>> points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the
>>>> results
>>>> is currently clear...
>>>>
>>>> Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
>>>>> evening.
>>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsingers@apache.org
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's mine:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>> Apache Manifold
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5
>>>>>> > PM
>>>>>> EDT
>>>>>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Karl
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>>>>>> currently
>>>>>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>>>>> >> are:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>>> >> Apache Acromantula
>>>>>> >> Apache Manifold
>>>>>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>>> >> Apache Multiplex
>>>>>> >> Apache Lucon
>>>>>> >> Apache Lukon
>>>>>> >> Apache Yukon
>>>>>> >> Apache Macon
>>>>>> >> Apache Omni
>>>>>> >> Apache Omnivore
>>>>>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>>>>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely
>>>>>> >> please.
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Karl
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
>>>>>> 7-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
You have until 5 PM Friday to tally your final vote.
Bear in mind, however, that changing your vote to achieve a desired outcome
may well cause others to change their votes to counteract your move. So I
urge people to change your vote ONLY if you want to add Apache Datasource
Connectors into your list somewhere.
Karl
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Jack Krupansky <
jack.krupansky@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
> Hmmm... so we can change our votes? I am toying with voting Manifold for
> all three choices since I would prefer an Apache-style short abstract name
> and that is the leading one so far. I haven't decided for sure yet.
>
> -- Jack Krupansky
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:02 AM
> To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
>
>
> A late entry has been added: Apache Datasource Connectors.
>>
>> If you would like to change your vote to include this option, please
>> revote,
>> and I will adjust accordingly.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores are
>>> as follows:
>>>
>>>
>>> Apache Connectors Framework 18
>>> Apache Manifold 11
>>> Apache Yukon 9
>>> Apache Macon 4
>>> Apache ManifoldCF 3
>>> Apache Omni 1
>>> Apache Acromantula 1
>>> Apache Lukon 1
>>>
>>> To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points to
>>> their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all 6
>>> points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the
>>> results
>>> is currently clear...
>>>
>>> Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
>>>> evening.
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gsingers@apache.org
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's mine:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>> Apache Manifold
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 PM
>>>>> EDT
>>>>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Karl
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
>>>>> list
>>>>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>>>>> currently
>>>>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>>>> >> are:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>>> >> Apache Acromantula
>>>>> >> Apache Manifold
>>>>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>>> >> Apache Multiplex
>>>>> >> Apache Lucon
>>>>> >> Apache Lukon
>>>>> >> Apache Yukon
>>>>> >> Apache Macon
>>>>> >> Apache Omni
>>>>> >> Apache Omnivore
>>>>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>>>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please.
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Karl
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------
>>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
>>>>> 7-8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@lucidimagination.com>.
Hmmm... so we can change our votes? I am toying with voting Manifold for all
three choices since I would prefer an Apache-style short abstract name and
that is the leading one so far. I haven't decided for sure yet.
-- Jack Krupansky
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:02 AM
To: <co...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
> A late entry has been added: Apache Datasource Connectors.
>
> If you would like to change your vote to include this option, please
> revote,
> and I will adjust accordingly.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores are
>> as follows:
>>
>>
>> Apache Connectors Framework 18
>> Apache Manifold 11
>> Apache Yukon 9
>> Apache Macon 4
>> Apache ManifoldCF 3
>> Apache Omni 1
>> Apache Acromantula 1
>> Apache Lukon 1
>>
>> To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points to
>> their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all 6
>> points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the
>> results
>> is currently clear...
>>
>> Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
>>> evening.
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll
>>> <gs...@apache.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>>>
>>>> Here's mine:
>>>>
>>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>> Apache Manifold
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 PM
>>>> EDT
>>>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > Karl
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
>>>> list
>>>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>>>> currently
>>>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>>> >> are:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>> >> Apache Acromantula
>>>> >> Apache Manifold
>>>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>> >> Apache Multiplex
>>>> >> Apache Lucon
>>>> >> Apache Lukon
>>>> >> Apache Yukon
>>>> >> Apache Macon
>>>> >> Apache Omni
>>>> >> Apache Omnivore
>>>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please.
>>>> ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Karl
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------
>>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
>>>> 7-8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
A late entry has been added: Apache Datasource Connectors.
If you would like to change your vote to include this option, please revote,
and I will adjust accordingly.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores are
> as follows:
>
>
> Apache Connectors Framework 18
> Apache Manifold 11
> Apache Yukon 9
> Apache Macon 4
> Apache ManifoldCF 3
> Apache Omni 1
> Apache Acromantula 1
> Apache Lukon 1
>
> To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points to
> their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all 6
> points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the results
> is currently clear...
>
> Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
>> evening.
>> Karl
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>>
>>> Here's mine:
>>>
>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>> Apache Manifold
>>>
>>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>
>>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 PM
>>> EDT
>>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>>> >
>>> > Karl
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
>>> list
>>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>>> currently
>>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>> >> are:
>>> >>
>>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>>> >> Apache Acromantula
>>> >> Apache Manifold
>>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>>> >> Apache Multiplex
>>> >> Apache Lucon
>>> >> Apache Lukon
>>> >> Apache Yukon
>>> >> Apache Macon
>>> >> Apache Omni
>>> >> Apache Omnivore
>>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please.
>>> ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Karl
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> --------------------------
>>> Grant Ingersoll
>>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct
>>> 7-8
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Rounding the first bend, the horses are neck-and-neck, and the scores are as
follows:
Apache Connectors Framework 18
Apache Manifold 11
Apache Yukon 9
Apache Macon 4
Apache ManifoldCF 3
Apache Omni 1
Apache Acromantula 1
Apache Lukon 1
To obtain these, I gave 3 points to someone's first choice, 2 points to
their second, and 1 point to the final choice. For Robert, I gave all 6
points to his only choice. But even without that, the order of the results
is currently clear...
Remember, the voting is still open, so don't hesitate to chime in!
Karl
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
> evening.
> Karl
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>>
>> Here's mine:
>>
>> Apache ManifoldCF
>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> Apache Manifold
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>
>> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 PM EDT
>> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>> >
>> > Karl
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
>> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>> currently
>> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>> >> are:
>> >>
>> >> Apache Connectors Framework
>> >> Apache Acromantula
>> >> Apache Manifold
>> >> Apache ManifoldCF
>> >> Apache Multiplex
>> >> Apache Lucon
>> >> Apache Lukon
>> >> Apache Yukon
>> >> Apache Macon
>> >> Apache Omni
>> >> Apache Omnivore
>> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>> >>
>> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Karl
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> --------------------------
>> Grant Ingersoll
>> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Sorry. I stand corrected, and the vote will remain open until Friday
evening.
Karl
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org> wrote:
> FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
>
> Here's mine:
>
> Apache ManifoldCF
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Manifold
>
> On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 PM EDT
> > today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
> >> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
> currently
> >> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> >> are:
> >>
> >> Apache Connectors Framework
> >> Apache Acromantula
> >> Apache Manifold
> >> Apache ManifoldCF
> >> Apache Multiplex
> >> Apache Lucon
> >> Apache Lukon
> >> Apache Yukon
> >> Apache Macon
> >> Apache Omni
> >> Apache Omnivore
> >> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> >> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
> >>
> >> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
> >>
> >> Karl
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> --------------------------
> Grant Ingersoll
> http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Grant Ingersoll <gs...@apache.org>.
FYI, votes are always open for 3 days.
Here's mine:
Apache ManifoldCF
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Manifold
On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:39 AM, Karl Wright wrote:
> FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 PM EDT
> today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
>
> Karl
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
>> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
>> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>> are:
>>
>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> Apache Acromantula
>> Apache Manifold
>> Apache ManifoldCF
>> Apache Multiplex
>> Apache Lucon
>> Apache Lukon
>> Apache Yukon
>> Apache Macon
>> Apache Omni
>> Apache Omnivore
>> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>
>> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
--------------------------
Grant Ingersoll
http://lucenerevolution.org Apache Lucene/Solr Conference, Boston Oct 7-8
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
FWIW, I am hoping to close the vote and tally the results after 5 PM EDT
today. So vote early, and vote often! ;-)
Karl
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> are:
>
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Acromantula
> Apache Manifold
> Apache ManifoldCF
> Apache Multiplex
> Apache Lucon
> Apache Lukon
> Apache Yukon
> Apache Macon
> Apache Omni
> Apache Omnivore
> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>
> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>
> Karl
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Jettro Coenradie <je...@gridshore.nl>.
Apache Yukon
Apache Macon
Apache Manifold
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Simon Willnauer <
simon.willnauer@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Apache Manifold
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Omni
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think this vote will conclusively demonstrate the community position to
> > the solons at incubator. They can choose to ignore the vote, of course,
> but
> > they won't be able to say we didn't consider alternatives. ;-)
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I think its pretty clear that unless the lords of the incubator *force*
> >> us to do otherwise, we should just leave it as Apache Connectors
> >> Framework. The vote is going to end up reflecting that is my bet anyway.
> >> I havn't seen anyone that's actually involved (if you can say anyone
> >> beyond karl is really involved anyway) is really dying for a change.
> >>
> >> - Mark
> >>
> >> On 8/31/10 8:07 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
> >> > you can ignore my vote really :)
> >> >
> >> > but i was thinking from a practical perspective, this one involves the
> >> least
> >> > code changes.
> >> >
> >> > plus, with existing projects named things like "apache DB" and "apache
> >> http
> >> > server", i don't understand the fuss.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Well, you've made your feelings clear. ;-)
> >> >> Karl
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >> >>>
> >> >>> (sorry)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
> >> list
> >> >>>> with
> >> >>>> a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
> >> currently
> >> >>>> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> >> >>>> are:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >> >>>> Apache Acromantula
> >> >>>> Apache Manifold
> >> >>>> Apache ManifoldCF
> >> >>>> Apache Multiplex
> >> >>>> Apache Lucon
> >> >>>> Apache Lukon
> >> >>>> Apache Yukon
> >> >>>> Apache Macon
> >> >>>> Apache Omni
> >> >>>> Apache Omnivore
> >> >>>> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> >> >>>> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please.
> >> ;-)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Karl
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Robert Muir
> >> >>> rcmuir@gmail.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
--
Jettro Coenradie
http://www.gridshore.nl
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Simon Willnauer <si...@googlemail.com>.
Apache Manifold
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Omni
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this vote will conclusively demonstrate the community position to
> the solons at incubator. They can choose to ignore the vote, of course, but
> they won't be able to say we didn't consider alternatives. ;-)
>
> Karl
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think its pretty clear that unless the lords of the incubator *force*
>> us to do otherwise, we should just leave it as Apache Connectors
>> Framework. The vote is going to end up reflecting that is my bet anyway.
>> I havn't seen anyone that's actually involved (if you can say anyone
>> beyond karl is really involved anyway) is really dying for a change.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> On 8/31/10 8:07 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
>> > you can ignore my vote really :)
>> >
>> > but i was thinking from a practical perspective, this one involves the
>> least
>> > code changes.
>> >
>> > plus, with existing projects named things like "apache DB" and "apache
>> http
>> > server", i don't understand the fuss.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well, you've made your feelings clear. ;-)
>> >> Karl
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> >>>
>> >>> (sorry)
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
>> list
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
>> currently
>> >>>> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>> >>>> are:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> >>>> Apache Acromantula
>> >>>> Apache Manifold
>> >>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>> >>>> Apache Multiplex
>> >>>> Apache Lucon
>> >>>> Apache Lukon
>> >>>> Apache Yukon
>> >>>> Apache Macon
>> >>>> Apache Omni
>> >>>> Apache Omnivore
>> >>>> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>> >>>> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please.
>> ;-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Karl
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Robert Muir
>> >>> rcmuir@gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
I think this vote will conclusively demonstrate the community position to
the solons at incubator. They can choose to ignore the vote, of course, but
they won't be able to say we didn't consider alternatives. ;-)
Karl
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think its pretty clear that unless the lords of the incubator *force*
> us to do otherwise, we should just leave it as Apache Connectors
> Framework. The vote is going to end up reflecting that is my bet anyway.
> I havn't seen anyone that's actually involved (if you can say anyone
> beyond karl is really involved anyway) is really dying for a change.
>
> - Mark
>
> On 8/31/10 8:07 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
> > you can ignore my vote really :)
> >
> > but i was thinking from a practical perspective, this one involves the
> least
> > code changes.
> >
> > plus, with existing projects named things like "apache DB" and "apache
> http
> > server", i don't understand the fuss.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, you've made your feelings clear. ;-)
> >> Karl
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >>>
> >>> (sorry)
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following
> list
> >>>> with
> >>>> a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project
> currently
> >>>> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> >>>> are:
> >>>>
> >>>> Apache Connectors Framework
> >>>> Apache Acromantula
> >>>> Apache Manifold
> >>>> Apache ManifoldCF
> >>>> Apache Multiplex
> >>>> Apache Lucon
> >>>> Apache Lukon
> >>>> Apache Yukon
> >>>> Apache Macon
> >>>> Apache Omni
> >>>> Apache Omnivore
> >>>> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> >>>> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please.
> ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Karl
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Robert Muir
> >>> rcmuir@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
I think its pretty clear that unless the lords of the incubator *force*
us to do otherwise, we should just leave it as Apache Connectors
Framework. The vote is going to end up reflecting that is my bet anyway.
I havn't seen anyone that's actually involved (if you can say anyone
beyond karl is really involved anyway) is really dying for a change.
- Mark
On 8/31/10 8:07 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
> you can ignore my vote really :)
>
> but i was thinking from a practical perspective, this one involves the least
> code changes.
>
> plus, with existing projects named things like "apache DB" and "apache http
> server", i don't understand the fuss.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, you've made your feelings clear. ;-)
>> Karl
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>
>>> (sorry)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
>>>> with
>>>> a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
>>>> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>>> are:
>>>>
>>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>>> Apache Acromantula
>>>> Apache Manifold
>>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>>> Apache Multiplex
>>>> Apache Lucon
>>>> Apache Lukon
>>>> Apache Yukon
>>>> Apache Macon
>>>> Apache Omni
>>>> Apache Omnivore
>>>> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>>> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Karl
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Robert Muir
>>> rcmuir@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
you can ignore my vote really :)
but i was thinking from a practical perspective, this one involves the least
code changes.
plus, with existing projects named things like "apache DB" and "apache http
server", i don't understand the fuss.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, you've made your feelings clear. ;-)
> Karl
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Apache Connectors Framework
> > Apache Connectors Framework
> > Apache Connectors Framework
> >
> > (sorry)
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
> > > with
> > > a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
> > > known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> > > are:
> > >
> > > Apache Connectors Framework
> > > Apache Acromantula
> > > Apache Manifold
> > > Apache ManifoldCF
> > > Apache Multiplex
> > > Apache Lucon
> > > Apache Lukon
> > > Apache Yukon
> > > Apache Macon
> > > Apache Omni
> > > Apache Omnivore
> > > Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> > > Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
> > >
> > > I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Robert Muir
> > rcmuir@gmail.com
> >
>
--
Robert Muir
rcmuir@gmail.com
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
Well, you've made your feelings clear. ;-)
Karl
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Connectors Framework
>
> (sorry)
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
> > with
> > a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
> > known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> > are:
> >
> > Apache Connectors Framework
> > Apache Acromantula
> > Apache Manifold
> > Apache ManifoldCF
> > Apache Multiplex
> > Apache Lucon
> > Apache Lukon
> > Apache Yukon
> > Apache Macon
> > Apache Omni
> > Apache Omnivore
> > Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> > Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
> >
> > I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
> >
> > Karl
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Robert Muir
> rcmuir@gmail.com
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Robert Muir <rc...@gmail.com>.
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Connectors Framework
(sorry)
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
> with
> a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> are:
>
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Acromantula
> Apache Manifold
> Apache ManifoldCF
> Apache Multiplex
> Apache Lucon
> Apache Lukon
> Apache Yukon
> Apache Macon
> Apache Omni
> Apache Omnivore
> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>
> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>
> Karl
>
--
Robert Muir
rcmuir@gmail.com
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
On 8/31/10 7:09 PM, Matt Weber wrote:
> Don't know if this is an open vote... but if it is:
>
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Yukon
> Apache Manifold
>
>
The more input the merrier!
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Matt Weber <ma...@mattweber.org>.
Don't know if this is an open vote... but if it is:
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Yukon
Apache Manifold
--
Thanks,
Matt Weber
3:58 PM, Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apache Manifold
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Yukon
>
> - mark
>
> On 8/31/10 6:54 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
>> My preferences:
>>
>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> Apache Manifold
>> Apache Acromantula
>>
>> Karl
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
>>> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
>>> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>>> are:
>>>
>>> Apache Connectors Framework
>>> Apache Acromantula
>>> Apache Manifold
>>> Apache ManifoldCF
>>> Apache Multiplex
>>> Apache Lucon
>>> Apache Lukon
>>> Apache Yukon
>>> Apache Macon
>>> Apache Omni
>>> Apache Omnivore
>>> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>>> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>>
>>> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
--
Thanks,
Matt Weber
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
Apache Manifold
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Yukon
- mark
On 8/31/10 6:54 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
> My preferences:
>
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Manifold
> Apache Acromantula
>
> Karl
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
>> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
>> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
>> are:
>>
>> Apache Connectors Framework
>> Apache Acromantula
>> Apache Manifold
>> Apache ManifoldCF
>> Apache Multiplex
>> Apache Lucon
>> Apache Lukon
>> Apache Yukon
>> Apache Macon
>> Apache Omni
>> Apache Omnivore
>> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
>> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>>
>> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>>
>> Karl
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com>.
My preferences:
Apache Connectors Framework
Apache Manifold
Apache Acromantula
Karl
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Karl Wright <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
> with a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> are:
>
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Acromantula
> Apache Manifold
> Apache ManifoldCF
> Apache Multiplex
> Apache Lucon
> Apache Lukon
> Apache Yukon
> Apache Macon
> Apache Omni
> Apache Omnivore
> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>
> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>
> Karl
>
>
>
Re: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@lucidimagination.com>.
1. Apache Yukon
2. Apache Macon
3. Apache Lukon
-- Jack Krupansky
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Karl Wright" <da...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 6:44 PM
To: "connectors-dev" <co...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: [VOTE] Pick your preferred name
> I know this is un-Apache-like, but please respond to the following list
> with
> a selection, in order, of the top three names for the project currently
> known as Apache Connectors Framework. The choices
> are:
>
> Apache Connectors Framework
> Apache Acromantula
> Apache Manifold
> Apache ManifoldCF
> Apache Multiplex
> Apache Lucon
> Apache Lukon
> Apache Yukon
> Apache Macon
> Apache Omni
> Apache Omnivore
> Apache CMCF (yes, I just invented that one ;-) )
> Apache Multivore (yes, I just invented that one too. ;-) )
>
> I don't think I missed any? If I did, chastise me severely please. ;-)
>
> Karl
>