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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> on 2007/10/06 13:54:10 UTC
Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib
for 1.5
Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
autoconf-2.59
libtool-1.5.22
swig-1.3.25
apr-0.9.12
apr-util-0.9.12
httpd-2.0.58
neon-0.25.5
zlib-1.2.3
First, tool versions: I propose that we update to the latest release of
autoconf, libtool and swig. We will, of course, be doing beta releases,
and can roll back if issues surface. That means:
autoconf-2.61 (17-Nov-2006)
libtool-1.5.24 (26-Jun-2007)
swig-1.3.31 (20-Nov-2006)
Second, dependency versions:
* It has been suggested that we switch to apr 1.2.x in the dependency
tarball. Do we have consensus on that?
* Does anyone know why we get apr* for the windows source by taking the
versions from the windows httpd source? Do we still need to do that?
* Which Neon series are we going with for 1.5, neon 0.26, or neon 0.27 ?
Max.
Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Ivan Zhakov <ch...@gmail.com>.
On 10/6/07, Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> wrote:
> Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
>
[snip]
>
> * Does anyone know why we get apr* for the windows source by taking the
> versions from the windows httpd source? Do we still need to do that?
We need apr* versions to locate library name (libapr-0 or libapr-1). I
don't know way to get it's version other than from sources. Do you
know?
--
Ivan Zhakov
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Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
On 10/6/07, Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> wrote:
> Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
>
> autoconf-2.59
> libtool-1.5.22
> swig-1.3.25
>
> apr-0.9.12
> apr-util-0.9.12
> httpd-2.0.58
> neon-0.25.5
> zlib-1.2.3
>
>
> First, tool versions: I propose that we update to the latest release of
> autoconf, libtool and swig. We will, of course, be doing beta releases,
> and can roll back if issues surface. That means:
>
> autoconf-2.61 (17-Nov-2006)
> libtool-1.5.24 (26-Jun-2007)
> swig-1.3.31 (20-Nov-2006)
>
>
> Second, dependency versions:
>
> * It has been suggested that we switch to apr 1.2.x in the dependency
> tarball. Do we have consensus on that?
>
> * Does anyone know why we get apr* for the windows source by taking the
> versions from the windows httpd source? Do we still need to do that?
>
> * Which Neon series are we going with for 1.5, neon 0.26, or neon 0.27 ?
I did not see any objections last time around. I am +1 in updating
these to the latest. Neon 0.27 is supposed to resolve some
authentication issues with Windows.
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by "Daniel L. Rall" <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007, Eric Gillespie wrote:
...
> > * Which Neon series are we going with for 1.5, neon 0.26, or neon 0.27 ?
>
> +1 to 0.27, though note that we don't build cleanly against it
> yet, due to a type change in the progress reporting info. Should
> only take just a minute to fix, I just have never been willing to
> context switch into it, and always forget it after I build.
This may be fixed now.
--
Daniel Rall
Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Eric Gillespie <ep...@google.com>.
Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> writes:
> autoconf-2.61 (17-Nov-2006)
> libtool-1.5.24 (26-Jun-2007)
> swig-1.3.31 (20-Nov-2006)
+1
> * It has been suggested that we switch to apr 1.2.x in the dependency
> tarball. Do we have consensus on that?
+1 to latest 1.2.x
> * Which Neon series are we going with for 1.5, neon 0.26, or neon 0.27 ?
+1 to 0.27, though note that we don't build cleanly against it
yet, due to a type change in the progress reporting info. Should
only take just a minute to fix, I just have never been willing to
context switch into it, and always forget it after I build.
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Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib
for 1.5
Posted by Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net>.
Erik Huelsmann wrote:
> Should we also update INSTALL with these versions and maybe with any
> newly added gen_make options or whatever is all in INSTALL?
I'm sure INSTALL could do with a thorough review before we release.
Max.
Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Erik Huelsmann <eh...@gmail.com>.
Should we also update INSTALL with these versions and maybe with any
newly added gen_make options or whatever is all in INSTALL?
bye,
Erik.
On 10/8/07, Hyrum K. Wright <hy...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> Max Bowsher wrote:
> > Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
> >
> > autoconf-2.59
> > libtool-1.5.22
> > swig-1.3.25
> >
> > apr-0.9.12
> > apr-util-0.9.12
> > httpd-2.0.58
> > neon-0.25.5
> > zlib-1.2.3
>
> Do we also care about sqlite?
>
> -Hyrum
>
>
>
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Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Oct 8, 2007 3:14 PM, Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Right, that is what I thought just as I clicked Send. SQLite should
> definitely be included. Should we include Serf if we include Neon?
Well, ra_serf passes all regression tests again. =)
FWIW, I'll probably be doing a serf release as soon as Lieven or
someone else gets the pool cleanup issues sorted out (see serf-dev@).
I guess I'd expect that release to happen sometime during the
stabilization period but before the final 1.5 release is cut. --
justin
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Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
On 10/8/07, Daniel L. Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Oct 2007, Mark Phippard wrote:
>
> > On 10/8/07, Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> wrote:
> > > Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
> > > > Max Bowsher wrote:
> > > >> Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
> > > >>
> > > >> autoconf-2.59
> > > >> libtool-1.5.22
> > > >> swig-1.3.25
> > > >>
> > > >> apr-0.9.12
> > > >> apr-util-0.9.12
> > > >> httpd-2.0.58
> > > >> neon-0.25.5
> > > >> zlib-1.2.3
> > > >
> > > > Do we also care about sqlite?
> > >
> > > We don't bundle that in the deps tarball.
> >
> > We probably should.
>
> Currently, SQLite is required -- +1.
>
> > I'd think we should add SASL too.
>
> SASL isn't required, is it? I was under the impression that Subversion
> will fall back to its built-in support.
Right, that is what I thought just as I clicked Send. SQLite should
definitely be included. Should we include Serf if we include Neon?
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by "Daniel L. Rall" <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007, Mark Phippard wrote:
> On 10/8/07, Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> wrote:
> > Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
> > > Max Bowsher wrote:
> > >> Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
> > >>
> > >> autoconf-2.59
> > >> libtool-1.5.22
> > >> swig-1.3.25
> > >>
> > >> apr-0.9.12
> > >> apr-util-0.9.12
> > >> httpd-2.0.58
> > >> neon-0.25.5
> > >> zlib-1.2.3
> > >
> > > Do we also care about sqlite?
> >
> > We don't bundle that in the deps tarball.
>
> We probably should.
Currently, SQLite is required -- +1.
> I'd think we should add SASL too.
SASL isn't required, is it? I was under the impression that Subversion
will fall back to its built-in support.
--
Daniel Rall
Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
On 10/8/07, Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net> wrote:
> Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
> > Max Bowsher wrote:
> >> Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
> >>
> >> autoconf-2.59
> >> libtool-1.5.22
> >> swig-1.3.25
> >>
> >> apr-0.9.12
> >> apr-util-0.9.12
> >> httpd-2.0.58
> >> neon-0.25.5
> >> zlib-1.2.3
> >
> > Do we also care about sqlite?
>
> We don't bundle that in the deps tarball.
We probably should. I'd think we should add SASL too.
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib
for 1.5
Posted by Max Bowsher <ma...@ukf.net>.
Hyrum K. Wright wrote:
> Max Bowsher wrote:
>> Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
>>
>> autoconf-2.59
>> libtool-1.5.22
>> swig-1.3.25
>>
>> apr-0.9.12
>> apr-util-0.9.12
>> httpd-2.0.58
>> neon-0.25.5
>> zlib-1.2.3
>
> Do we also care about sqlite?
We don't bundle that in the deps tarball.
Max.
Re: Setting RM blessed versions of autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib
for 1.5
Posted by "Hyrum K. Wright" <hy...@mail.utexas.edu>.
Max Bowsher wrote:
> Current situation from tools/dist/construct-rolling-environment.sh:
>
> autoconf-2.59
> libtool-1.5.22
> swig-1.3.25
>
> apr-0.9.12
> apr-util-0.9.12
> httpd-2.0.58
> neon-0.25.5
> zlib-1.2.3
Do we also care about sqlite?
-Hyrum
Re: Setting RM blessed versions of
autoconf/libtool/swig/apr/apr-util/httpd/neon/zlib for 1.5
Posted by Peter Samuelson <pe...@p12n.org>.
[Max Bowsher]
> * It has been suggested that we switch to apr 1.2.x in the dependency
> tarball. Do we have consensus on that?
As you probably remember, I brought this issue up in March 2006 (see
thread at http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2006-03/0501.shtml). At the
time, people made some objections to telling the truth about how the
libsvn ABI changes when you use apr 1.2. I hope those same people
(Justin, Joe) also object to shipping apr 1.2 in the deps tarball!
Because from the standpoint of ABI promises, that's a far more
disruptive change than my patch was.
Peter
P.S. For those who are curious but don't want to read the whole thread,
I believe the argument went something like this. (Yes, my summary will
be biased.)
- apr 1.2 breaks the libsvn ABI, therefore we must ship apr 0.9
- some users chose to break the libsvn ABI on their own, by compiling
with apr 1.2, and we have allowed them to do this
- telling the linker (truthfully!) that the libsvn published ABI
changes when you use apr 1.2 breaks the libsvn ABI ... for those
users who already broke it
- therefore we must pretend the libsvn ABI does _not_ change when you
move to apr 1.2, because it's more important to avoid breaking the
ABI for users who already broke the ABI than to do things correctly
for users who haven't already broken it
--
Peter Samuelson | org-tld!p12n!peter | http://p12n.org/
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