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Posted to dev@tuscany.apache.org by "Yang, Gang USA CTR (CH)" <ga...@mail.mil> on 2011/05/06 20:42:36 UTC

RE: Next 2.x release (UNCLASSIFIED)

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I created the following JIRAs 3852, 3853, 3854 and 3855 based on Simon's summary of several earlier discussions on Policy extension for implementing WS security and I verified problems with prototypes (patch attached to JIRSs). None of them was included in Java-SCA-2.x. I would urge that some of the crucial ones, such as 3852 and/or 3853, be considered to be included for the 2.0 release. 

Our project is currently using 1.6.2, which has PolicyHandler support, to implement WS-security. But when we move to 2.0, there would be no working mechanism for implementing WS-security.

Thanks,
Gang

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Laws [mailto:simonslaws@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:08 AM
> To: dev@tuscany.apache.org; antelder@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Next 2.x release
> 
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:57 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Simon Laws
> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I'm not going to argue against that I was just repeating what we've
> >> said previously. How about the make this the last beta then get down
> >> to doing the 2.0 release. Our first action should be to list all the
> >> things we think we need to get done in JIRA under the 2.0 category
> and
> >> then work through them. Our 2.0 category has 18 items in it (2.x
> >> category has 43 items in it) many of while can be closed. So we
> should
> >> close them down and populate with any others that must be there.
> >>
> >
> > Ok that makes sense. To make this clearer I've moved all the existing
> > open v2 JIRAs to Java-SCA-2.x (there were still a few open ones from
> > previous v2 releases too), lets spend the next week adding what are
> > real issues and tasks that need to happen for 2.0 and put them in
> > Java-SCA-2.0. Then we can see how close we are to doing the 2.0
> > release.
> >
> >   ...ant
> >
> 
> Splendid, thanks Ant. Anyone else have comments/concerns?
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> --
> Apache Tuscany committer: tuscany.apache.org
> Co-author of a book about Tuscany and SCA: tuscanyinaction.com

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RE: Next 2.x release (UNCLASSIFIED)

Posted by "Yang, Gang USA CTR (CH)" <ga...@mail.mil>.
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Hi, Simon,

Thanks for looking into this. The significance of JIRA 3852 and 3853 is that it at least allow us get hold of the SOAP message for security processing.

>From the view point of having a general solution, fixing 3852 is preferred since it allows us to integrate with Tuscany instead of the specific WS binding providers (sort of), which can theoretically provide a more generic solution regardless what binding provider is used. I understand my this statement is not entirely true because it depends on how much abstractions Tuscany API provides. I think our earlier discussions touched upon this. But there's a hope. On the contrary, 3853 only provides a way to integrate with Axis2 binding provider specifically.

Thanks again.
Gang

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Laws [mailto:simonslaws@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 4:10 AM
> To: dev@tuscany.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Next 2.x release (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> Hi Gang
> 
> I agree that we need to look at this. Haven't go to them yet but I'll
> go through them again and add them to the 2.0 list.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Simon
> 
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Yang, Gang USA CTR (CH)
> <ga...@mail.mil> wrote:
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> >
> > I created the following JIRAs 3852, 3853, 3854 and 3855 based on
> Simon's summary of several earlier discussions on Policy extension for
> implementing WS security and I verified problems with prototypes (patch
> attached to JIRSs). None of them was included in Java-SCA-2.x. I would
> urge that some of the crucial ones, such as 3852 and/or 3853, be
> considered to be included for the 2.0 release.
> >
> > Our project is currently using 1.6.2, which has PolicyHandler
> support, to implement WS-security. But when we move to 2.0, there would
> be no working mechanism for implementing WS-security.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Gang
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Simon Laws [mailto:simonslaws@googlemail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:08 AM
> >> To: dev@tuscany.apache.org; antelder@apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Next 2.x release
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:57 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Simon Laws
> >> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not going to argue against that I was just repeating what
> we've
> >> >> said previously. How about the make this the last beta then get
> down
> >> >> to doing the 2.0 release. Our first action should be to list all
> the
> >> >> things we think we need to get done in JIRA under the 2.0
> category
> >> and
> >> >> then work through them. Our 2.0 category has 18 items in it (2.x
> >> >> category has 43 items in it) many of while can be closed. So we
> >> should
> >> >> close them down and populate with any others that must be there.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Ok that makes sense. To make this clearer I've moved all the
> existing
> >> > open v2 JIRAs to Java-SCA-2.x (there were still a few open ones
> from
> >> > previous v2 releases too), lets spend the next week adding what
> are
> >> > real issues and tasks that need to happen for 2.0 and put them in
> >> > Java-SCA-2.0. Then we can see how close we are to doing the 2.0
> >> > release.
> >> >
> >> >   ...ant
> >> >
> >>
> >> Splendid, thanks Ant. Anyone else have comments/concerns?
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Apache Tuscany committer: tuscany.apache.org
> >> Co-author of a book about Tuscany and SCA: tuscanyinaction.com
> >
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Apache Tuscany committer: tuscany.apache.org
> Co-author of a book about Tuscany and SCA: tuscanyinaction.com

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Re: Next 2.x release (UNCLASSIFIED)

Posted by Simon Laws <si...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Gang

I agree that we need to look at this. Haven't go to them yet but I'll
go through them again and add them to the 2.0 list.

Regards

Simon

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Yang, Gang USA CTR (CH)
<ga...@mail.mil> wrote:
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> I created the following JIRAs 3852, 3853, 3854 and 3855 based on Simon's summary of several earlier discussions on Policy extension for implementing WS security and I verified problems with prototypes (patch attached to JIRSs). None of them was included in Java-SCA-2.x. I would urge that some of the crucial ones, such as 3852 and/or 3853, be considered to be included for the 2.0 release.
>
> Our project is currently using 1.6.2, which has PolicyHandler support, to implement WS-security. But when we move to 2.0, there would be no working mechanism for implementing WS-security.
>
> Thanks,
> Gang
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon Laws [mailto:simonslaws@googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 4:08 AM
>> To: dev@tuscany.apache.org; antelder@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Next 2.x release
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 8:57 AM, ant elder <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Simon Laws
>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I'm not going to argue against that I was just repeating what we've
>> >> said previously. How about the make this the last beta then get down
>> >> to doing the 2.0 release. Our first action should be to list all the
>> >> things we think we need to get done in JIRA under the 2.0 category
>> and
>> >> then work through them. Our 2.0 category has 18 items in it (2.x
>> >> category has 43 items in it) many of while can be closed. So we
>> should
>> >> close them down and populate with any others that must be there.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Ok that makes sense. To make this clearer I've moved all the existing
>> > open v2 JIRAs to Java-SCA-2.x (there were still a few open ones from
>> > previous v2 releases too), lets spend the next week adding what are
>> > real issues and tasks that need to happen for 2.0 and put them in
>> > Java-SCA-2.0. Then we can see how close we are to doing the 2.0
>> > release.
>> >
>> >   ...ant
>> >
>>
>> Splendid, thanks Ant. Anyone else have comments/concerns?
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> --
>> Apache Tuscany committer: tuscany.apache.org
>> Co-author of a book about Tuscany and SCA: tuscanyinaction.com
>
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> Caveats: NONE
>
>
>



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