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[Bug 124068] New: Bar chart - axes are reversed

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

            Bug ID: 124068
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: Bar chart - axes are reversed
           Product: Calc
           Version: 4.1.0-dev
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Linux64
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P3
         Component: code
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: elish@apache.org
                CC: issues@openoffice.apache.org

Created attachment 82332
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example spreadsheet

This is related to TestLink AOOTest-733.
According help: "The y axis shows categories. The x axis shows the value for
each category."
But abscissa is y axis and ordinate is x axis.

AOO410m1(Build:9750)  -  Rev. 1557669
2014-01-14_04:11:13 - Rev. 1557927
Debian

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[Bug 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:

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             Status|CONFIRMED                   |RESOLVED
                 CC|                            |rainerbielefeld_ooo_qa@biel
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            Version|4.1.0-dev                   |OOo 3.3 or older
         Resolution|---                         |NOT_AN_ISSUE

--- Comment #2 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
The sample document shows an absolutely correct bar chart (due to AOO
terminology) , Help also is correct.
Bar chart is more or less an alternative form of the column chart with
alternated function of x-axis and y-axis.

Seems to me some misunderstanding.

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

Armin Le Grand <Ar...@me.com> changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Armin Le Grand <Ar...@me.com> ---
I took a look. It's not a plain rotation, but a mirroring on the diagonal (0,0)
to (1,1). This explains why the coordinate system orientation 'seems' to
change.

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

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mroe <mr...@gmx.net> changed:

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

--- Comment #5 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
I never watched the Status bar, indeed that what most users will call the
Y-axis (vertical) is shown as X-axis and vice versa. I am pretty sure that that
is intended and correct, some reasoning tomorrow.

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

--- Comment #7 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
Created attachment 82920
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Demo

I am not 100% sure whether there is a universal definition. I checked
"Bronstein Handbook of Mathematics" and "Bartsch Handbook of Mathematics".

Both tell:
(a) There are lots of different definitions of coordinate systems like 
    Cartesian coordinate system, polar coordinates, cylinder coordinates, 
    orthogonal or oblique-angled, ...
(b) Cartesian coordinate system are known 
    right-hand system (reporter's base for report, most common)
    left-hand system, Easting and northing and others
(b1) So the Column Chart is a right-handed , Bar Chart is a left-handed
      coordinate system
(c) Most common use of such coordinate systems for charts is something like
    y=f(x), where x is some kind of control variable or count variable, and
    y is a value calculated from x by a function
(d) These considerations (elaborated version of Comment 6) show that
    AOO works correct here, also in Bar Chart the x-axis shows the 
    control variable and the y-axis the calculated values

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

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Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> ---
see attachment 82886

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

mroe <mr...@gmx.net> changed:

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--- Comment #6 from mroe <mr...@gmx.net> ---
Try the following:

Change the format of the x-axis, e. g. increase the line width.
Format → Chart Type…
Change the Type from Bar to Column.

Hope this will help to understand that is it not a bug.

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

--- Comment #12 from mroe <mr...@gmx.net> ---
Maybe the description for "Bar" can be changed to only:
"This type is like the type Column but the axis are swapped."

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

--- Comment #10 from mroe <mr...@gmx.net> ---
(In reply to Edwin Sharp from comment #9)
> AOO help says "The y axis shows categories. The x axis shows the value for
> each category." and this is a wrong statement when one observes attachment
> 82886 [details] !

As a Bar chart is only a rotated Column chart AOO works correct. But you are
right that the help should be updated with a right description.

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

--- Comment #3 from Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> ---
Created attachment 82886
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screenshot of spreadsheet

selection of x-axis in formatting toolbar highlights the vertical categories
axis which is y-axis, not x-axis.

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> changed:

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             Status|REOPENED                    |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |NOT_AN_ISSUE

--- Comment #8 from Rainer Bielefeld <ra...@bielefeldundbuss.de> ---
The demo document from comment above shows that the Bar Chart is a left-handed
variant of the right-handed Column-Chart, everything is correct.

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[Bug 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

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https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124068

Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> changed:

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             Status|UNCONFIRMED                 |CONFIRMED
             Latest|---                         |4.1-dev
    Confirmation on|                            |
     Ever confirmed|0                           |1
                 OS|Linux64                     |All

--- Comment #1 from Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> ---
Confirmed with
AOO410m1(Build:9750)  -  Rev. 1560574
Rev.1560574
Win 7

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[Issue 124068] Bar chart - axes are reversed

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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--- Comment #9 from Edwin Sharp <el...@apache.org> ---
We are talking about a two dimensional coordinate system.
Right hand attribute is meaningful in three dimensional coordinate system.
According right hand rule when your fingers are in the x axis direction and you
fold them towards the y axis, your thumb will show the positive direction of
the z axis.

AOO help says "The y axis shows categories. The x axis shows the value for each
category." and this is a wrong statement when one observes attachment 82886 !

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