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Posted to user@turbine.apache.org by Amit V Shah <as...@tagaudit.com> on 2004/09/08 16:54:34 UTC
What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
Hi all,
Please pardon my stupid question. But I am still not able to understand how
various modules fit with apache turbine. I want to use the Fulcrum Security,
with its turbine adapter, Hibernate as the O/R Mapping. I have a prototype
that someone had created and have to develope more on it. There are couple
of things that confuse me with the prototype that this person developed.
1. What is he using Flux tool for?
2. There is a class called
- public class SecurityServiceAdapter extends
org.apache.fulcrum.security.adapter.turbine.SecurityServiceAdapter
- The JavaDoc for this class says- This class exists because the Turbine
adapter to the Fulcrum security model is not yet fully implemented. Once it
is, this class should be eliminated and the reference in
WEB-INF/conf/TurbineResources.properties changed back to the actual Fulcrum
object.
- This class only implements one method and that is -
- public org.apache.turbine.util.security.AccessControlList getACL(User
user) throws org.apache.turbine.util.security.DataBackendException,
org.apache.turbine.util.security.UnknownEntityException
- Now from what I understand, the antelope application uses Hibernate,
Fulcrum Security and Turbine. So then why would I need this
SecurityServiceAdapter ...
Please help !!!!!
Thanks,
Amit
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RE: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@upstate.com>.
I would love a patch file with that. As a long time user, I don't always
know how to phrase things properly for new people to understand. Just send
in a patch file and I'll commit it.
Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ANSI Webmaster [mailto:webmaster@ansi.dk]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 6:04 PM
> To: 'Turbine Users List'
> Subject: RE: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
>
>
> The homepage should reflect this.
>
> I've successfully used the Antelope example for my project, and everything
> is just moving right on since I started to check it out.
>
> I suggest you do the same.
>
> And perhaps someone could update the homepage with a little new info?
>
> /M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Pugh [mailto:epugh@upstate.com]
> Sent: 8. september 2004 17:48
> To: Turbine Users List
> Subject: RE: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
>
> Flux should be taken out behind the woodshed and shot.. It looks like it
> does a lot, but doensn't.. it's just a thin wrapper around some methods
> plus some gui screens that are ugly.. So yes, you don't need
> Flux, pretend
> it never exists!
>
> Now, check out Antelope.. All the SecurityServiceAdapter does
> is allow you
> to port an existing turbine app to use Fulcrum security as the backend.
>
> Old Style:
> Turbine <--> Turbine Security
> All reads go to Turbine Security
> All modifications to security roles/permissions etc done through Turbine
> Security
>
> New Style:
> Turbine <--> Adapter <--> Fulcrum
> All reads (from Turbine) go through Adapter to Fulcrum
> All modifications to security roles/permissions go DIRECTLY to fulcrum.
>
> Now, in antelope, they didn't use (I don't believe) the integrated Turbine
> security methods, but go directly to Fulcrum for them.. Hence they don't
> need the adapter..
>
> So, the adapter is just used if you need to call existing TurbineSecurity
> class methods..
>
> Eric
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Amit V Shah [mailto:ashah@tagaudit.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:55 PM
> > To: 'turbine-user@jakarta.apache.org'
> > Subject: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Please pardon my stupid question. But I am still not able to
> > understand how
> > various modules fit with apache turbine. I want to use the
> > Fulcrum Security,
> > with its turbine adapter, Hibernate as the O/R Mapping. I have
> a prototype
> > that someone had created and have to develope more on it. There
> are couple
> > of things that confuse me with the prototype that this person developed.
> >
> > 1. What is he using Flux tool for?
> > 2. There is a class called
> > - public class SecurityServiceAdapter extends
> > org.apache.fulcrum.security.adapter.turbine.SecurityServiceAdapter
> > - The JavaDoc for this class says- This class exists because
> the Turbine
> > adapter to the Fulcrum security model is not yet fully
> > implemented. Once it
> > is, this class should be eliminated and the reference in
> > WEB-INF/conf/TurbineResources.properties changed back to the
> > actual Fulcrum
> > object.
> > - This class only implements one method and that is -
> > - public org.apache.turbine.util.security.AccessControlList
> > getACL(User
> > user) throws org.apache.turbine.util.security.DataBackendException,
> > org.apache.turbine.util.security.UnknownEntityException
> > - Now from what I understand, the antelope application uses Hibernate,
> > Fulcrum Security and Turbine. So then why would I need this
> > SecurityServiceAdapter ...
> >
> >
> > Please help !!!!!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Amit
> >
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RE: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
Posted by ANSI Webmaster <we...@ansi.dk>.
The homepage should reflect this.
I've successfully used the Antelope example for my project, and everything
is just moving right on since I started to check it out.
I suggest you do the same.
And perhaps someone could update the homepage with a little new info?
/M
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Pugh [mailto:epugh@upstate.com]
Sent: 8. september 2004 17:48
To: Turbine Users List
Subject: RE: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
Flux should be taken out behind the woodshed and shot.. It looks like it
does a lot, but doensn't.. it's just a thin wrapper around some methods
plus some gui screens that are ugly.. So yes, you don't need Flux, pretend
it never exists!
Now, check out Antelope.. All the SecurityServiceAdapter does is allow you
to port an existing turbine app to use Fulcrum security as the backend.
Old Style:
Turbine <--> Turbine Security
All reads go to Turbine Security
All modifications to security roles/permissions etc done through Turbine
Security
New Style:
Turbine <--> Adapter <--> Fulcrum
All reads (from Turbine) go through Adapter to Fulcrum
All modifications to security roles/permissions go DIRECTLY to fulcrum.
Now, in antelope, they didn't use (I don't believe) the integrated Turbine
security methods, but go directly to Fulcrum for them.. Hence they don't
need the adapter..
So, the adapter is just used if you need to call existing TurbineSecurity
class methods..
Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amit V Shah [mailto:ashah@tagaudit.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:55 PM
> To: 'turbine-user@jakarta.apache.org'
> Subject: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Please pardon my stupid question. But I am still not able to
> understand how
> various modules fit with apache turbine. I want to use the
> Fulcrum Security,
> with its turbine adapter, Hibernate as the O/R Mapping. I have a prototype
> that someone had created and have to develope more on it. There are couple
> of things that confuse me with the prototype that this person developed.
>
> 1. What is he using Flux tool for?
> 2. There is a class called
> - public class SecurityServiceAdapter extends
> org.apache.fulcrum.security.adapter.turbine.SecurityServiceAdapter
> - The JavaDoc for this class says- This class exists because the Turbine
> adapter to the Fulcrum security model is not yet fully
> implemented. Once it
> is, this class should be eliminated and the reference in
> WEB-INF/conf/TurbineResources.properties changed back to the
> actual Fulcrum
> object.
> - This class only implements one method and that is -
> - public org.apache.turbine.util.security.AccessControlList
> getACL(User
> user) throws org.apache.turbine.util.security.DataBackendException,
> org.apache.turbine.util.security.UnknownEntityException
> - Now from what I understand, the antelope application uses Hibernate,
> Fulcrum Security and Turbine. So then why would I need this
> SecurityServiceAdapter ...
>
>
> Please help !!!!!
>
> Thanks,
> Amit
>
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RE: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@upstate.com>.
Flux should be taken out behind the woodshed and shot.. It looks like it
does a lot, but doensn't.. it's just a thin wrapper around some methods
plus some gui screens that are ugly.. So yes, you don't need Flux, pretend
it never exists!
Now, check out Antelope.. All the SecurityServiceAdapter does is allow you
to port an existing turbine app to use Fulcrum security as the backend.
Old Style:
Turbine <--> Turbine Security
All reads go to Turbine Security
All modifications to security roles/permissions etc done through Turbine
Security
New Style:
Turbine <--> Adapter <--> Fulcrum
All reads (from Turbine) go through Adapter to Fulcrum
All modifications to security roles/permissions go DIRECTLY to fulcrum.
Now, in antelope, they didn't use (I don't believe) the integrated Turbine
security methods, but go directly to Fulcrum for them.. Hence they don't
need the adapter..
So, the adapter is just used if you need to call existing TurbineSecurity
class methods..
Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Amit V Shah [mailto:ashah@tagaudit.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 4:55 PM
> To: 'turbine-user@jakarta.apache.org'
> Subject: What is flux tool used for !!!!!!
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Please pardon my stupid question. But I am still not able to
> understand how
> various modules fit with apache turbine. I want to use the
> Fulcrum Security,
> with its turbine adapter, Hibernate as the O/R Mapping. I have a prototype
> that someone had created and have to develope more on it. There are couple
> of things that confuse me with the prototype that this person developed.
>
> 1. What is he using Flux tool for?
> 2. There is a class called
> - public class SecurityServiceAdapter extends
> org.apache.fulcrum.security.adapter.turbine.SecurityServiceAdapter
> - The JavaDoc for this class says- This class exists because the Turbine
> adapter to the Fulcrum security model is not yet fully
> implemented. Once it
> is, this class should be eliminated and the reference in
> WEB-INF/conf/TurbineResources.properties changed back to the
> actual Fulcrum
> object.
> - This class only implements one method and that is -
> - public org.apache.turbine.util.security.AccessControlList
> getACL(User
> user) throws org.apache.turbine.util.security.DataBackendException,
> org.apache.turbine.util.security.UnknownEntityException
> - Now from what I understand, the antelope application uses Hibernate,
> Fulcrum Security and Turbine. So then why would I need this
> SecurityServiceAdapter ...
>
>
> Please help !!!!!
>
> Thanks,
> Amit
>
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