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Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Hi,

I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as it
is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being used
internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.

I don't believe this 'feature' is being used but I wanted to check
because I believe I made an error in judgement letting this usage into
existence.

So for example in driver.properties we have:

maven.final.name = ${pom.artifactId}-${pom.currentVersion}

This is the type of usage I want to remove.

-- 
jvz.

Jason van Zyl
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http://tambora.zenplex.org

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and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  
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Re: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:53, Colin Sampaleanu wrote:
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:37, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
> >>notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as it
> >>is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being used
> >>internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.
> >>
> >>I don't believe this 'feature' is being used but I wanted to check
> >>because I believe I made an error in judgement letting this usage into
> >>existence.
> >>
> >>So for example in driver.properties we have:
> >>
> >>maven.final.name = ${pom.artifactId}-${pom.currentVersion}
> >>
> >>This is the type of usage I want to remove.
> >>    
> >>
> >Just a clarification: there seem to be a few places in plugins where the
> >${pom.X) interpolation is used and I can catch those to make sure things
> >work. I really just wanted to know if this feature is in widespread use.
> >
> >I would really like to move to properties files that strictly contain
> >user defined values and not pom defined values.
> >
> I've used it once in a while, to do stuff like
> maven.ejb.final.name=${pom.artifactId}-beans-${pom.currentVersion}
> 
> Now this was to get around a limitation of the ejb plugin, which can't 
> (or couldn't) let you override the final name. It would not necessarilly 
> be that big a deal if this went away, I suppose, as long as I could 
> still acess the value in maven.xml///

Thanks, this one I can work around as well because the driver.properties
uses ${pom.artifactId} and ${pom.currentVersion}.

> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Colin Sampaleanu <co...@exis.com>.
Jason van Zyl wrote:

>On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:37, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
>>notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as it
>>is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being used
>>internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.
>>
>>I don't believe this 'feature' is being used but I wanted to check
>>because I believe I made an error in judgement letting this usage into
>>existence.
>>
>>So for example in driver.properties we have:
>>
>>maven.final.name = ${pom.artifactId}-${pom.currentVersion}
>>
>>This is the type of usage I want to remove.
>>    
>>
>Just a clarification: there seem to be a few places in plugins where the
>${pom.X) interpolation is used and I can catch those to make sure things
>work. I really just wanted to know if this feature is in widespread use.
>
>I would really like to move to properties files that strictly contain
>user defined values and not pom defined values.
>
I've used it once in a while, to do stuff like
maven.ejb.final.name=${pom.artifactId}-beans-${pom.currentVersion}

Now this was to get around a limitation of the ejb plugin, which can't 
(or couldn't) let you override the final name. It would not necessarilly 
be that big a deal if this went away, I suppose, as long as I could 
still acess the value in maven.xml///

>
>
>  
>



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Re: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:37, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
> notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as it
> is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being used
> internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.
> 
> I don't believe this 'feature' is being used but I wanted to check
> because I believe I made an error in judgement letting this usage into
> existence.
> 
> So for example in driver.properties we have:
> 
> maven.final.name = ${pom.artifactId}-${pom.currentVersion}
> 
> This is the type of usage I want to remove.

Just a clarification: there seem to be a few places in plugins where the
${pom.X) interpolation is used and I can catch those to make sure things
work. I really just wanted to know if this feature is in widespread use.

I would really like to move to properties files that strictly contain
user defined values and not pom defined values.


-- 
jvz.

Jason van Zyl
jason@zenplex.com
http://tambora.zenplex.org

In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  
  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society


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Re: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 11:50, Martin Skopp wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 17:37, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> > I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
> > notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as it
> > is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being used
> > internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.
> 
> <cli>
> find . -name project.properties | xargs grep pom
> </cli>
> 
> gives me frequent use of
> 
> maven.xdoc.version=${pom.currentVersion}
> 
> but can't remember why - must have copied it from somewhere in my early
> maven startup times...

Anywhere I have let these slip in I can catch. If it is only these one
that are in use then I can stop interpolating POM values into properties
file. If it's in widespread use then I will not remove it for the 1.0
release. This is what I'm trying to determine.


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jvz.

Jason van Zyl
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and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
  
  -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society


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Re: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Martin Skopp <sk...@riege.de>.
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 17:37, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
> notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as it
> is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being used
> internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.

<cli>
find . -name project.properties | xargs grep pom
</cli>

gives me frequent use of

maven.xdoc.version=${pom.currentVersion}

but can't remember why - must have copied it from somewhere in my early
maven startup times...
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RE: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@zenplex.com]
> Sent: 18 June 2003 05:54
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: RE: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.
> 
> On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 12:59, Vincent Massol wrote:
> > We're using it in a few places on the project I'm working on. We
have
> > the following for example, in our project.properties:
> >
> > "
> > maven.xdoc.version = ${pom.name}-${pom.currentVersion}
> 
> Yah, this is a standard one.
> 
> > # Override default installation directory for ejb jars in order to
put
> > the
> > # ejbs in the jar artfiact repository directory.
> >
maven.ejb.install.dir=${maven.repo.local}/${pom.artifactDirectory}/jars
> > "
> >
> > The second is obviously due to a problem in a plugin. But that
should be
> > a typical use cases. There are lots of small problems in the
existing
> > plugins where this makes sense.
> 
> Is there anyway around this? How about a property defined in the POM?
> I'm just trying to narrow the interpolation behavior a little to make
> things simpler (and easier internally).

Yeah, the way around is to fix the plugin. I'll do that hopefully today.

However, I liked the interpolation feature.

Thanks
-Vincent

> 
> 
> > -Vincent
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@zenplex.com]
> > > Sent: 17 June 2003 17:37
> > > To: Maven Users List
> > > Subject: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
> > > notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature
as
> > it
> > > is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being
> > used
> > > internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.
> > >
> > > I don't believe this 'feature' is being used but I wanted to check
> > > because I believe I made an error in judgement letting this usage
into
> > > existence.
> > >
> > > So for example in driver.properties we have:
> > >
> > > maven.final.name = ${pom.artifactId}-${pom.currentVersion}
> > >
> > > This is the type of usage I want to remove.
> > >
> > > --
> > > jvz.
> > >
> > > Jason van Zyl
> > > jason@zenplex.com
> > > http://tambora.zenplex.org
> > >
> > > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> > > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> > >
> > >   -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@zenplex.com
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
> 
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> 
>   -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> 
> 
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RE: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Jason van Zyl <ja...@zenplex.com>.
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 12:59, Vincent Massol wrote:
> We're using it in a few places on the project I'm working on. We have
> the following for example, in our project.properties:
> 
> "
> maven.xdoc.version = ${pom.name}-${pom.currentVersion}

Yah, this is a standard one.

> # Override default installation directory for ejb jars in order to put
> the 
> # ejbs in the jar artfiact repository directory.
> maven.ejb.install.dir=${maven.repo.local}/${pom.artifactDirectory}/jars
> "
> 
> The second is obviously due to a problem in a plugin. But that should be
> a typical use cases. There are lots of small problems in the existing
> plugins where this makes sense.

Is there anyway around this? How about a property defined in the POM?
I'm just trying to narrow the interpolation behavior a little to make
things simpler (and easier internally).


> -Vincent
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@zenplex.com]
> > Sent: 17 June 2003 17:37
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
> > notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as
> it
> > is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being
> used
> > internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.
> > 
> > I don't believe this 'feature' is being used but I wanted to check
> > because I believe I made an error in judgement letting this usage into
> > existence.
> > 
> > So for example in driver.properties we have:
> > 
> > maven.final.name = ${pom.artifactId}-${pom.currentVersion}
> > 
> > This is the type of usage I want to remove.
> > 
> > --
> > jvz.
> > 
> > Jason van Zyl
> > jason@zenplex.com
> > http://tambora.zenplex.org
> > 
> > In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> > and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> > 
> >   -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> > 
> > 
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Jason van Zyl
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RE: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.

Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.
We're using it in a few places on the project I'm working on. We have
the following for example, in our project.properties:

"
maven.xdoc.version = ${pom.name}-${pom.currentVersion}

# Override default installation directory for ejb jars in order to put
the 
# ejbs in the jar artfiact repository directory.
maven.ejb.install.dir=${maven.repo.local}/${pom.artifactDirectory}/jars
"

The second is obviously due to a problem in a plugin. But that should be
a typical use cases. There are lots of small problems in the existing
plugins where this makes sense.

-Vincent


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jason@zenplex.com]
> Sent: 17 June 2003 17:37
> To: Maven Users List
> Subject: Removing ${pom.X} usage in properties files.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I wanted to check with users about the frequency of using ${pom.X}
> notation in properties files. I would like to remove this feature as
it
> is causing some grief internally and the only place I see it being
used
> internally is driver.properties which isn't visible to most users.
> 
> I don't believe this 'feature' is being used but I wanted to check
> because I believe I made an error in judgement letting this usage into
> existence.
> 
> So for example in driver.properties we have:
> 
> maven.final.name = ${pom.artifactId}-${pom.currentVersion}
> 
> This is the type of usage I want to remove.
> 
> --
> jvz.
> 
> Jason van Zyl
> jason@zenplex.com
> http://tambora.zenplex.org
> 
> In short, man creates for himself a new religion of a rational
> and technical order to justify his work and to be justified in it.
> 
>   -- Jacques Ellul, The Technological Society
> 
> 
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