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Posted to user@openmeetings.apache.org by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> on 2013/10/25 14:59:00 UTC
Re: Video Frozen - OpenMeetings/Red5 stuck
I was able to set up
2.2.0-SNAPSHOT 1534608 22-October-2013
on https://demo.dataved.ru:5443/openmeetings/
It seems to work as expected (maybe because I'm the only person in the room)
Can send invitation link to people willing to test
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I was able to set up
> 2.2.0-SNAPSHOT 1534608 22-October-2013
>
> on https://demo.dataved.ru:5443/openmeetings/
> It seems to work as expected (maybe because I'm the only person in the
> room)
>
> Can send invitation link to people willing to test
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:19 PM, John Tran <jo...@tjnetworks.com>wrote:
>
>> Nice. Thank you Maxim for the update.
>>
>> -John-
>> ______________________________
>> Message sent via iPhone .
>> Syntax errors are expected.
>>
>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 11:16 PM, "Maxim Solodovnik" <so...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We are currently working on set up 2.2 with RTMPS/SSL on demo.dataved.ruand test it.
>> Hopefully we will be able to test it until the end of the week
>> Will let you know the results
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8:33 AM, John Tran <fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry Maxim to get back to you so late. I was tied up at work and
>>> traveling this week. Let me know when it's the next good time for you to
>>> test 2.2 with me.
>>>
>>> -john-
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:22 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello John,
>>>> sorry I was unable to attend :(
>>>> If it is still possible we can reschedule our debug session to
>>>> Wednesday 2013.09.18 after 15:00 GMT
>>>> Is it OK?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:52 PM, John Tran <fi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maxim, are you still awake?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great! Thanks :)
>>>>>> On Sep 14, 2013 2:30 PM, "John Tran" <fi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow, we on the opposite end. I am GMT-8. I will connect with you
>>>>>>> 22:00 your local time and send you the credential after I rebuild the OS
>>>>>>> and put the latest OM 2.2 build.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -john-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm in GMT+7
>>>>>>>> I might be busy until ~20:00 my time (13:00 GMT)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:21 PM, John Tran <fi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is your timezone so I know to be online tomorrow and test it
>>>>>>>>> with you?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure, please send the credentials :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:18 PM, John Tran <findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I email you direct. I can rebuild it tomorrow from
>>>>>>>>>>> scratch and test it with you. Would you be willing to test with me. I can
>>>>>>>>>>> give you root access to check and enable the log. It's a VPS and I always
>>>>>>>>>>> wipe and rebuild at anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -john-
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it video only issue?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you please try to enter to the room of type restricted
>>>>>>>>>>>> do not start audio/video
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> just type anything in the chat etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it work longer than 5 seconds?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have anything in the logs? (maybe with increased log
>>>>>>>>>>>> level and/or additional ssl logging enabled?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 11:22 PM, John Tran <
>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniella
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think WiFi or wired connection makes a difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The same for the browser. I am WiFi most of the time. When I go from 2.2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to 2.1.1, from the same machine and browser, it works like a champ on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> non SSL mode, still freeze in SSL mode. Sometime I don't see the all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> participates in the same conference room. It's int ermittent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Daniela Kirsch <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dkirsch@excelsystems.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we got video once from the other end for about 5 seconds. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did also have that black video window, or a frozen video basically from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start. The local video was always working. Not sure if the browser makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any difference, but we did use Safari on Mac and Firefox on Windows 7. So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it wasn't really any kind of success.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> install apache-openmeetings-2.2.0.r1522507-12-09-2013_0953.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's setup with SSL and RTMPS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On another note, we use the direct login and set up rooms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the REST APIs (OM runs in an iframe in our application). Don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it makes any difference though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering, could it make any difference to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disconnects in 2.1 when you're on Wifi compared to wired network? We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weren't able to pin point what causes it, except when I let the screensaver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniela
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-12, at 10:40 PM, John Tran wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniela, you are actually getting audio/video from the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end? I still cant it on the latest 2.2 build (2.2.0-SNAPSHOT 1522507) on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSL and non SSL mode and all of my build are from scratch and bare bone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installation of the OS and OM2.2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Daniela Kirsch <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dkirsch@excelsystems.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So we got around to testing this version as well. The best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we got was 5 seconds of video working before it froze, however it didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crash the server...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We won't try non-SSL with this version.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I understand correctly 2.2 will have the updated Red5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> server or is this 2.2? Sorry a little confused as to what version it is now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-11, at 2:51 PM, John Tran wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not getting video/audio on SSL/RTMPS connection from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the far end and vice versa. I logged in fine and enter a room, and start a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference. I get a black screen from far end and vice versa. Local video
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is fine. I hangs when logging out. "Loading..." in red just stays there,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will try this non SSL/RTMPS mode if it i experience these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -john-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> red5 server was updated in 2.2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need help in testing of this major change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this build will be considered more stable I'll update
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the instructions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't checked SSL yet. Hopefully will check this week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:43 AM, John Tran <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, Ok. "keystore" file I have, just not "keystore.screen"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I finally got it working, or at least up and accessible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via SSL web interface and RTMPS port listening.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you clarify the below for me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did not have to comment out the below on the 2.1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build/installtion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <!--property name="rtmpConnManager" ref="rtmpConnManager"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /-->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why now on the 2.2 build for it to work?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, why is the jee-container-ssl.xml missing on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.2 build. The existing jee-container.xml that comes with the build not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not seem work when you try to access the page via https. I had to copy it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jee-container-ssl.xml from the 2.1 build and rename to jee-container.xml in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to access the page via https successfully.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank again Maxim for your guidance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -john-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need to create it as you have created "keystore" file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as stated here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:58 PM, John Tran <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where would I get that? keystore.screen is no where to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be found when I do a search. I just finish a build from scratch from an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> svn checkout installation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax666@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keystore.screen is necessary for screensharing via RTMPS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:09 PM, John Tran <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Maxim. My setting are identical int he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.xml except that values are different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the red5-core.xml setting. I did't comment out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the below
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - <property name="rtmpConnManager"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ref="rtmpConnManager" />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + <!--property name="rtmpConnManager"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ref="rtmpConnManager" /-->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I left as is like I did in all of my 2.1 set up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration. I will comment out on the 2.2 build and see if it works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the ../conf directory, I don't have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keystore.screen file. I just have keystore file that I created and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keystore.jmx file that is already there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> WBR
>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> jt
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> John Tran
>>>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> jt
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> John Tran
>>>>> Northern California, CA
>>>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WBR
>>>> Maxim aka solomax
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> jt
>>> ________________________________
>>> John Tran
>>> Northern California, CA
>>> findingjohn@gmail.com
>>> ICQ IM: 27741710
>>> AOL IM: find1ngj0hn
>>> Yahoo! IM: findingj0hn
>>> MSN IM: findingjohn@hotmail.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> WBR
>> Maxim aka solomax
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax