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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com> on 2010/02/02 16:44:45 UTC
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion
Developers" )
Greg: I think we want to submit for graduation, or do we want to hold
off until March?
The only issue raised on general@i.a.o was about JavaHL package names,
and I'm confident that we're aware of the issue and will resolve it as
best as we can in line with ASF guidelines. So, I see no real
blockers at this time... -- justin
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Incubator PMC <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Dear Subversion Developers,
>
> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC.
> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly
> board report.
>
> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 17 February 2010, 12 pm Pacific. The report
> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The Incubator PMC
> requires your report to be submitted one week before the board meeting, to allow
> sufficient time for review.
>
> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the incubator PMC, and
> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very latest you
> should submit your report is one week prior to the board meeting.
>
> Thanks,
>
> The Apache Incubator PMC
>
> Submitting your Report
> ----------------------
>
> Your report should contain the following:
>
> * Your project name
> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of the project
> or necessarily of its field
> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation.
> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to be aware of
> * How has the community developed since the last report
> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>
> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2010
>
> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before this page is
> created from a template.
>
> Mentors
> -------
> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off on the
> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are following the
> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the Incubator PMC.
>
> Incubator PMC
>
>
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010
("Subversion Developers" )
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bert Huijben <be...@vmoo.com> wrote:
>> Should we hold the graduation process on the javahl api changes, or
>> can we
>> just continue that?
>>
>> I would guess that we should have it fixed before release, but that
>> it
>> doesn't hold the graduation...?
>
> I do not see a need to hold graduation until this is fixed in trunk
> (or a release).
>
> As Greg has pointed out before, the key bit - from the Incubator and
> Board levels - is that there is appropriate oversight being performed
> by the appropriate people. With those hats on, I'm very very
> comfortable that is the case. -- justin
The subversion project has shown that it gets the Apache way. Voting
new committers, voting releases, etc.
There's adequate oversight by folks who know how things are supposed
to work.
If the project promises to fix the Java package names by a release
certain (not some arbitrary sometime in future), I'm satisfied.
Craig
Craig L Russell
Assistant Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
Chair, OpenJPA PMC
clr@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion
Developers" )
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 21:34, Hyrum K. Wright
<hy...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>
> On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 13:01, Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bert Huijben <be...@vmoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Should we hold the graduation process on the javahl api changes, or can we
>>>> just continue that?
>>>>
>>>> I would guess that we should have it fixed before release, but that it
>>>> doesn't hold the graduation...?
>>>
>>> I do not see a need to hold graduation until this is fixed in trunk
>>> (or a release).
>>>
>>> As Greg has pointed out before, the key bit - from the Incubator and
>>> Board levels - is that there is appropriate oversight being performed
>>> by the appropriate people. With those hats on, I'm very very
>>> comfortable that is the case. -- justin
>>
>> Agreed. We know the issue, and we will get it closed out before
>> release. As you point out, we have demonstrated appropriate oversight
>> and responsibility, just like any other Apache project, to get issues
>> like this handled.
>>
>> I need to update the podling's status page, and then I'll call for a
>> vote on general@incubator.
>
> Greg,
> Did you have an idea of when you were planning on starting this discussion / vote? (I assume you can still get bits in and out of northern Virginia... :P )
I was hoping to do it tomorrow. Before calling the vote, I want to
update the incubator status page. Then start the vote.
Cheers,
-g
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion Developers" )
Posted by "Hyrum K. Wright" <hy...@mail.utexas.edu>.
On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 13:01, Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bert Huijben <be...@vmoo.com> wrote:
>>> Should we hold the graduation process on the javahl api changes, or can we
>>> just continue that?
>>>
>>> I would guess that we should have it fixed before release, but that it
>>> doesn't hold the graduation...?
>>
>> I do not see a need to hold graduation until this is fixed in trunk
>> (or a release).
>>
>> As Greg has pointed out before, the key bit - from the Incubator and
>> Board levels - is that there is appropriate oversight being performed
>> by the appropriate people. With those hats on, I'm very very
>> comfortable that is the case. -- justin
>
> Agreed. We know the issue, and we will get it closed out before
> release. As you point out, we have demonstrated appropriate oversight
> and responsibility, just like any other Apache project, to get issues
> like this handled.
>
> I need to update the podling's status page, and then I'll call for a
> vote on general@incubator.
Greg,
Did you have an idea of when you were planning on starting this discussion / vote? (I assume you can still get bits in and out of northern Virginia... :P )
-Hyrum
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion
Developers" )
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 13:01, Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bert Huijben <be...@vmoo.com> wrote:
>> Should we hold the graduation process on the javahl api changes, or can we
>> just continue that?
>>
>> I would guess that we should have it fixed before release, but that it
>> doesn't hold the graduation...?
>
> I do not see a need to hold graduation until this is fixed in trunk
> (or a release).
>
> As Greg has pointed out before, the key bit - from the Incubator and
> Board levels - is that there is appropriate oversight being performed
> by the appropriate people. With those hats on, I'm very very
> comfortable that is the case. -- justin
Agreed. We know the issue, and we will get it closed out before
release. As you point out, we have demonstrated appropriate oversight
and responsibility, just like any other Apache project, to get issues
like this handled.
I need to update the podling's status page, and then I'll call for a
vote on general@incubator.
Cheers,
-g
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion
Developers" )
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Bert Huijben <be...@vmoo.com> wrote:
> Should we hold the graduation process on the javahl api changes, or can we
> just continue that?
>
> I would guess that we should have it fixed before release, but that it
> doesn't hold the graduation...?
I do not see a need to hold graduation until this is fixed in trunk
(or a release).
As Greg has pointed out before, the key bit - from the Incubator and
Board levels - is that there is appropriate oversight being performed
by the appropriate people. With those hats on, I'm very very
comfortable that is the case. -- justin
RE: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion Developers" )
Posted by Bert Huijben <be...@vmoo.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Whitlock [mailto:jcscoobyrs@gmail.com]
> Sent: dinsdag 2 februari 2010 17:50
> To: Hyrum K. Wright
> Cc: Justin Erenkrantz; Subversion Development; Greg Stein
> Subject: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion
> Developers" <de...@subversion.apache.org>)
>
> > FWIW, I've been hacking on the JavaHL packages toward this end. Hope to
> be done soon (but not brave enough to give an exact timeline :)
Should we hold the graduation process on the javahl api changes, or can we
just continue that?
I would guess that we should have it fixed before release, but that it
doesn't hold the graduation...?
Bert
>
>
> Can I help?
>
> Jeremy Whitlock <jc...@gmail.com>
> http://www.thoughtspark.org
>
>
>
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion Developers" )
Posted by Jeremy Whitlock <jc...@gmail.com>.
> FWIW, I've been hacking on the JavaHL packages toward this end. Hope to be done soon (but not brave enough to give an exact timeline :)
Can I help?
Jeremy Whitlock <jc...@gmail.com>
http://www.thoughtspark.org
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion Developers" )
Posted by Jeremy Whitlock <jc...@gmail.com>.
> FWIW, I've been hacking on the JavaHL packages toward this end. Hope to be done soon (but not brave enough to give an exact timeline :)
Can I help?
Jeremy Whitlock <jc...@gmail.com>
http://www.thoughtspark.org
Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for February 2010 ("Subversion Developers" )
Posted by "Hyrum K. Wright" <hy...@mail.utexas.edu>.
On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:44 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> Greg: I think we want to submit for graduation, or do we want to hold
> off until March?
>
> The only issue raised on general@i.a.o was about JavaHL package names,
> and I'm confident that we're aware of the issue and will resolve it as
> best as we can in line with ASF guidelines. So, I see no real
> blockers at this time... -- justin
FWIW, I've been hacking on the JavaHL packages toward this end. Hope to be done soon (but not brave enough to give an exact timeline :)
-Hyrum