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Posted to user@struts.apache.org by Tiago Nodari <ti...@uol.com.br> on 2002/09/01 21:56:50 UTC
[OT] Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
Depends how much RAM you have :)
I tried JBuilder 7 and netbeans 3.4, both are slow starting, but
after its alright, I dont do GUI work. Eclipse is nice also, the only
problem I have is when you alt-tab alot, it seems to take a while going
back to it, that doesnt happen with netbeans... plus the support for JSP in
Eclipse is none existant, but there is a nice tomcat plugin that helps a lot...
At 09:52 PM 9/1/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>hmmmm..... that´s not all that much! Mind you, I found that JBuilder was
>fairly slow (especially JBuilder6 - JB4 was ok) and caused everything else
>to slow down aswell. I don´t have this problem when using Eclipse...
>
>Regards,
>
>Michael
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tiago Nodari" <ti...@uol.com.br>
>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:34 PM
>Subject: Re: Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
>
>
> >
> > Try opening JBuilder(or netbeans), tomcat, mysql, and just for
>fun
> > together....
> >
> > At 09:30 PM 9/1/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> > >sometimes you just need JBuilder open for the PC to hang :-)
> > >
> > >Sorry, couldn´t help it!
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Tiago Nodari" <ti...@uol.com.br>
> > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:21 PM
> > >Subject: RE: Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill, that is my point, with Visual Studio you get tons of good
> > >features in one IDE, which from my point of view helps speed
>development...
> > > I know what is out there, i have netbeans, eclipse, struts
> > >console, etc etc etc in my computer, I would rather have just one. Have
>to
> > >open various tools made in java, tomcat, browser and etc. my computer
>just
> > >hangs..
> > > My point is if you buy an IDE like JBuilder the least it should
> > >have more than the basic features. Since that is one of the reason .NET
>is
> > >much faster to develop. This is according to friends who work with .NET.
> > >
> > > tiago
> > >
> > >
> > >At 09:38 PM 8/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Tiago,
> > > >
> > > >"... I don't understand why IDE like Jbuilder don't come with support
> > > >for frameworks like struts. In version 8 or 9 maybe there will be
> > > >integration with JSF, by then JSF 2 will be out..."
> > > >
> > > >That support already exists. Try ObjectAssembler, Struts Console, etc.
> > > >Remember that most IDEs will give you okay support for ten zillion
> > > >different things but rarely deep support for anything. Try one of the
> > > >Struts tools that plugs into JBuilder and other IDEs seamlessly and get
> > > >deep, intelligent support for Struts. You won't have to wait around for
> > > >mediocre Struts support. :-)
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [OT] Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
Posted by Eddie Bush <ek...@swbell.net>.
You're probably aware that I've been evaluating IDEs recently. I
finally wound up deciding that Netbeans 3.4 suited my needs/wants more
closely than any other IDE. Yes, you're kind of locked in to whatever
Tomcat installation they packaged with it, but, other than that, it's
really nice. That, plus a locally (in my user directory) installed TC
4.1.19 (the beta2) with a browser (Mozilla kicks!) having a tab opened
to the admin and a tab opened to the manager works super. I ... would
like to see better support for other Tomcat versions in Netbeans, but,
overall, I find it very satisfactory.
One of the biggest things I disliked was the fact that you can't specify
a heirarchy as a "source heirarchy" - and can't specify where it would
compile to. I get around this using a (very) simple ant script.
Overall, I really think Netbeans is the ideal web-app IDE. Yes, it's
missing some nice features of the other IDEs, but ... it doesn't bother
me too bad. I may try Sun ONE Studio again once they've got Netbeans
3.4 under it ... but the previous version (bundled with JDK 1.4) was an
absolute beast - and had many problems on my machine.
Regards,
Eddie
Michael Delamere wrote:
>Yes, the Tomcat-Plugin is nice....
>is 256 MB SDRAM enough?
>
>:-)
>
>Regards,
>
>Michael
>
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Re: [OT] Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
Posted by Michael Delamere <ho...@michael-delamere.de>.
Yes, the Tomcat-Plugin is nice....
is 256 MB SDRAM enough?
:-)
Regards,
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tiago Nodari" <ti...@uol.com.br>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:56 PM
Subject: [OT] Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
>
> Depends how much RAM you have :)
> I tried JBuilder 7 and netbeans 3.4, both are slow starting, but
> after its alright, I dont do GUI work. Eclipse is nice also, the only
> problem I have is when you alt-tab alot, it seems to take a while going
> back to it, that doesnt happen with netbeans... plus the support for JSP
in
> Eclipse is none existant, but there is a nice tomcat plugin that helps a
lot...
>
>
>
> At 09:52 PM 9/1/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> >hmmmm..... that´s not all that much! Mind you, I found that JBuilder was
> >fairly slow (especially JBuilder6 - JB4 was ok) and caused everything
else
> >to slow down aswell. I don´t have this problem when using Eclipse...
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Tiago Nodari" <ti...@uol.com.br>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:34 PM
> >Subject: Re: Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Try opening JBuilder(or netbeans), tomcat, mysql, and just
for
> >fun
> > > together....
> > >
> > > At 09:30 PM 9/1/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> > > >sometimes you just need JBuilder open for the PC to hang :-)
> > > >
> > > >Sorry, couldn´t help it!
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Tiago Nodari" <ti...@uol.com.br>
> > > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <st...@jakarta.apache.org>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 9:21 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: Java Server Faces and Developer Life Comments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill, that is my point, with Visual Studio you get tons of
good
> > > >features in one IDE, which from my point of view helps speed
> >development...
> > > > I know what is out there, i have netbeans, eclipse, struts
> > > >console, etc etc etc in my computer, I would rather have just one.
Have
> >to
> > > >open various tools made in java, tomcat, browser and etc. my
computer
> >just
> > > >hangs..
> > > > My point is if you buy an IDE like JBuilder the least it
should
> > > >have more than the basic features. Since that is one of the reason
.NET
> >is
> > > >much faster to develop. This is according to friends who work with
.NET.
> > > >
> > > > tiago
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >At 09:38 PM 8/31/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi Tiago,
> > > > >
> > > > >"... I don't understand why IDE like Jbuilder don't come with
support
> > > > >for frameworks like struts. In version 8 or 9 maybe there will be
> > > > >integration with JSF, by then JSF 2 will be out..."
> > > > >
> > > > >That support already exists. Try ObjectAssembler, Struts Console,
etc.
> > > > >Remember that most IDEs will give you okay support for ten zillion
> > > > >different things but rarely deep support for anything. Try one of
the
> > > > >Struts tools that plugs into JBuilder and other IDEs seamlessly and
get
> > > > >deep, intelligent support for Struts. You won't have to wait around
for
> > > > >mediocre Struts support. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards,
> > > > >Bill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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