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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Om <bi...@gmail.com> on 2013/01/02 22:04:19 UTC

[DISCUSS] Continuing discussion on Installer 2.0 RC1

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> On 1/2/13 12:18 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Greg.
> >
> > Alex, I think it is pretty clear from Greg's response on how we want to
> > proceed.  Do you have any more clarifications, or can we go ahead with
> the
> > [VOTE] for RC1?
> >
> Yes, it is good to learn that publishing on the site is not considered a
> release and you can publish the xml file on the site without a vote.
>
> You can start a vote for RC1 if you want, but I think we should fix up a
> few
> of the issues folks have brought up so far. The ones I saw are:
>
> 1) the name of the default value for FLEX_HOME_MAC folder.
>

Can you or Carol fix this and check it in?


> 2) Greek locale capitalization (I think we'll probably have to live with
> truncation issues in this version like prior versions)
>

Truncated labels automatically show tooltips.  So we are not a lot of
functionality.  But I  do agree it doesnt look too good.  I am loathe to
changing the size of buttons.  Maybe someone can make the text's font size
to scale down automatically based on content?
Bonus:  This would be a very nice feature addition to the Flex SDK :-)


> 3) remove DISCLAIMER file
>

This was removed a while ago by Justin - rev 1427021 [
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1427021]


> 4) Examine the checkbox issue Carol brought up about changing locales after
> checking some of the boxes.  If it will be risky/painful, it can probably
> be
> deferred.
>

I will take a look at this tonight.


>
> I actually haven't looked at RC1 myself.  I will do that next.
>
> Also, I still don't like the fact that someone running the installer
> sometime in the future can potentially have a different version installed,
> and I still don't like having the incubator URLs.  I wish we could get our
> final URLs before sending out this release.
>
>
I am okay with waiting if we know that the timeframe is in the order of
days and not weeks/months.

Thanks,
Om

Re: [DISCUSS] Continuing discussion on Installer 2.0 RC1

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Nick Tsitlakidis <ni...@perfectedz.com>wrote:

> I can spend some time with the installer tomorrow and make some notes on
> what needs to change for the Greek locale if you guys plan to spend time
> and have it fixed in this release. If not I'll add it in my todo list for
> next week.
>
>
Nick,

If you can take a look asap, that would be great.  We are probably going to
have a couple more RCs and it would be nice to fix as many issues as
possible for Installer 2.0.

Thanks,
Om


>
> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/2/13 1:04 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 1/2/13 12:18 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks Greg.
> > >>>
> > >>> Alex, I think it is pretty clear from Greg's response on how we want
> to
> > >>> proceed.  Do you have any more clarifications, or can we go ahead
> with
> > >> the
> > >>> [VOTE] for RC1?
> > >>>
> > >> Yes, it is good to learn that publishing on the site is not
> considered a
> > >> release and you can publish the xml file on the site without a vote.
> > >>
> > >> You can start a vote for RC1 if you want, but I think we should fix
> up a
> > >> few
> > >> of the issues folks have brought up so far. The ones I saw are:
> > >>
> > >> 1) the name of the default value for FLEX_HOME_MAC folder.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Can you or Carol fix this and check it in?
> > I'll do it.  Carol is out rest of today I think.
> > >
> > >
> > >> 2) Greek locale capitalization (I think we'll probably have to live
> with
> > >> truncation issues in this version like prior versions)
> > >>
> > >
> > > Truncated labels automatically show tooltips.  So we are not a lot of
> > > functionality.  But I  do agree it doesnt look too good.  I am loathe
> to
> > > changing the size of buttons.  Maybe someone can make the text's font
> > size
> > > to scale down automatically based on content?
> > > Bonus:  This would be a very nice feature addition to the Flex SDK :-)
> > Scaling font size would make it unreadable in many cases.  I think the
> SDK
> > feature you are supposed to use is constraint columns.  I think the
> visual
> > designers are probably ok having buttons grow to fit the text, but they
> > want
> > two buttons on top of each other to grow to the size of the larger
> button.
> >
> > But I just want us to get the capitalization right in this release.
>  Let's
> > see if we can get someone to tell us what to change.
> >
> > >> I wish we could get our
> > >> final URLs before sending out this release.
> > >>
> > >>
> > > I am okay with waiting if we know that the timeframe is in the order of
> > > days and not weeks/months.
> > I guess the best plan is to make an RC2 soon with the non-final URLs and
> be
> > prepared to cancel the vote if we get our final URLs on Monday next week.
> >  I
> > think the issue is that the board secretaries are still out on holiday
> and
> > don't have final minutes for infra to use to build out the TLP stuff.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Om
> >
> > --
> > Alex Harui
> > Flex SDK Team
> > Adobe Systems, Inc.
> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Nick Tsitlakidis,
>
> CEO and Software Architect at Perfect Edge LTD.
> www.perfectedz.com
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Continuing discussion on Installer 2.0 RC1

Posted by Nick Tsitlakidis <ni...@perfectedz.com>.
I can spend some time with the installer tomorrow and make some notes on
what needs to change for the Greek locale if you guys plan to spend time
and have it fixed in this release. If not I'll add it in my todo list for
next week.


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> On 1/2/13 1:04 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/2/13 12:18 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thanks Greg.
> >>>
> >>> Alex, I think it is pretty clear from Greg's response on how we want to
> >>> proceed.  Do you have any more clarifications, or can we go ahead with
> >> the
> >>> [VOTE] for RC1?
> >>>
> >> Yes, it is good to learn that publishing on the site is not considered a
> >> release and you can publish the xml file on the site without a vote.
> >>
> >> You can start a vote for RC1 if you want, but I think we should fix up a
> >> few
> >> of the issues folks have brought up so far. The ones I saw are:
> >>
> >> 1) the name of the default value for FLEX_HOME_MAC folder.
> >>
> >
> > Can you or Carol fix this and check it in?
> I'll do it.  Carol is out rest of today I think.
> >
> >
> >> 2) Greek locale capitalization (I think we'll probably have to live with
> >> truncation issues in this version like prior versions)
> >>
> >
> > Truncated labels automatically show tooltips.  So we are not a lot of
> > functionality.  But I  do agree it doesnt look too good.  I am loathe to
> > changing the size of buttons.  Maybe someone can make the text's font
> size
> > to scale down automatically based on content?
> > Bonus:  This would be a very nice feature addition to the Flex SDK :-)
> Scaling font size would make it unreadable in many cases.  I think the SDK
> feature you are supposed to use is constraint columns.  I think the visual
> designers are probably ok having buttons grow to fit the text, but they
> want
> two buttons on top of each other to grow to the size of the larger button.
>
> But I just want us to get the capitalization right in this release.  Let's
> see if we can get someone to tell us what to change.
>
> >> I wish we could get our
> >> final URLs before sending out this release.
> >>
> >>
> > I am okay with waiting if we know that the timeframe is in the order of
> > days and not weeks/months.
> I guess the best plan is to make an RC2 soon with the non-final URLs and be
> prepared to cancel the vote if we get our final URLs on Monday next week.
>  I
> think the issue is that the board secretaries are still out on holiday and
> don't have final minutes for infra to use to build out the TLP stuff.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>


-- 
Nick Tsitlakidis,

CEO and Software Architect at Perfect Edge LTD.
www.perfectedz.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Continuing discussion on Installer 2.0 RC1

Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Om,
>
> Made the change to build.properties and fixed some typo's in the release
> notes.  I think RELEASE_NOTES typically also have lists of bugs fixed or
> improvements made.  Can you add that to the release notes?
>
>
Will do!

Thanks,
Om

Re: [DISCUSS] Continuing discussion on Installer 2.0 RC1

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Om,

Made the change to build.properties and fixed some typo's in the release
notes.  I think RELEASE_NOTES typically also have lists of bugs fixed or
improvements made.  Can you add that to the release notes?

Thanks,
-Alex


On 1/2/13 1:31 PM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> On 1/2/13 1:04 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 1/2/13 12:18 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks Greg.
>>>> 
>>>> Alex, I think it is pretty clear from Greg's response on how we want to
>>>> proceed.  Do you have any more clarifications, or can we go ahead with
>>> the
>>>> [VOTE] for RC1?
>>>> 
>>> Yes, it is good to learn that publishing on the site is not considered a
>>> release and you can publish the xml file on the site without a vote.
>>> 
>>> You can start a vote for RC1 if you want, but I think we should fix up a
>>> few
>>> of the issues folks have brought up so far. The ones I saw are:
>>> 
>>> 1) the name of the default value for FLEX_HOME_MAC folder.
>>> 
>> 
>> Can you or Carol fix this and check it in?
> I'll do it.  Carol is out rest of today I think.
>> 
>> 
>>> 2) Greek locale capitalization (I think we'll probably have to live with
>>> truncation issues in this version like prior versions)
>>> 
>> 
>> Truncated labels automatically show tooltips.  So we are not a lot of
>> functionality.  But I  do agree it doesnt look too good.  I am loathe to
>> changing the size of buttons.  Maybe someone can make the text's font size
>> to scale down automatically based on content?
>> Bonus:  This would be a very nice feature addition to the Flex SDK :-)
> Scaling font size would make it unreadable in many cases.  I think the SDK
> feature you are supposed to use is constraint columns.  I think the visual
> designers are probably ok having buttons grow to fit the text, but they want
> two buttons on top of each other to grow to the size of the larger button.
> 
> But I just want us to get the capitalization right in this release.  Let's
> see if we can get someone to tell us what to change.
> 
>>> I wish we could get our
>>> final URLs before sending out this release.
>>> 
>>> 
>> I am okay with waiting if we know that the timeframe is in the order of
>> days and not weeks/months.
> I guess the best plan is to make an RC2 soon with the non-final URLs and be
> prepared to cancel the vote if we get our final URLs on Monday next week.  I
> think the issue is that the board secretaries are still out on holiday and
> don't have final minutes for infra to use to build out the TLP stuff.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Om

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui


Re: [DISCUSS] Continuing discussion on Installer 2.0 RC1

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.


On 1/2/13 1:04 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/2/13 12:18 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Greg.
>>> 
>>> Alex, I think it is pretty clear from Greg's response on how we want to
>>> proceed.  Do you have any more clarifications, or can we go ahead with
>> the
>>> [VOTE] for RC1?
>>> 
>> Yes, it is good to learn that publishing on the site is not considered a
>> release and you can publish the xml file on the site without a vote.
>> 
>> You can start a vote for RC1 if you want, but I think we should fix up a
>> few
>> of the issues folks have brought up so far. The ones I saw are:
>> 
>> 1) the name of the default value for FLEX_HOME_MAC folder.
>> 
> 
> Can you or Carol fix this and check it in?
I'll do it.  Carol is out rest of today I think.
> 
> 
>> 2) Greek locale capitalization (I think we'll probably have to live with
>> truncation issues in this version like prior versions)
>> 
> 
> Truncated labels automatically show tooltips.  So we are not a lot of
> functionality.  But I  do agree it doesnt look too good.  I am loathe to
> changing the size of buttons.  Maybe someone can make the text's font size
> to scale down automatically based on content?
> Bonus:  This would be a very nice feature addition to the Flex SDK :-)
Scaling font size would make it unreadable in many cases.  I think the SDK
feature you are supposed to use is constraint columns.  I think the visual
designers are probably ok having buttons grow to fit the text, but they want
two buttons on top of each other to grow to the size of the larger button.

But I just want us to get the capitalization right in this release.  Let's
see if we can get someone to tell us what to change.

>> I wish we could get our
>> final URLs before sending out this release.
>> 
>> 
> I am okay with waiting if we know that the timeframe is in the order of
> days and not weeks/months.
I guess the best plan is to make an RC2 soon with the non-final URLs and be
prepared to cancel the vote if we get our final URLs on Monday next week.  I
think the issue is that the board secretaries are still out on holiday and
don't have final minutes for infra to use to build out the TLP stuff.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om

-- 
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui