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Posted to dev@clerezza.apache.org by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org> on 2011/05/25 21:48:29 UTC

Re: Vote: release date of Apache Clerezza

Hi

I don't see many impediments for releaseing now.

Some little things:
- the search mini form (on the top-right) yields to a 404, we should remove
the form or implemente global-search with the CRIS service (searching at
least titled-contents)

- the default style doesn't uses the clerezza logo, one variant would be to
make the style used for the website the default-style, and make the current
style an option "classic-style" bundle

- the start page http://localhost:8080/ should at least be shown with menu

Cheers,
Reto



On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org> wrote:

> Hi Hasan
>
> I prefer as soon as possible (15 May would be possible but 29 May is
> also ok for me)  - if necessary don't release unstable/experimental
> projects.
>
> I am pushing for a release because we have already customers using
> clerezza and it takes a lot of time to test and fix new features from
> the SNAPSHOT-versions every week to deploy updates.
>
> cheers
> tsuy
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > Hi Reto, All
> >
> > Henry has pointed out his preference for the release date.
> > If you have a good reason for supporting or against this, please just
> tell
> > us and also your preference
> > Based on your preferences and reasons, I'll make a proposal.
> >
> > Feedback until Friday evening this week is appreciated
> >
> > Hasan
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> > reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure how these non-binary votes are supposed to work. I think it
> >> would be easier to informally ask for prefernces and then make a
> proposal.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Reto
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 5 Apr 2011, at 12:14, Hasan Hasan wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Dear all
> >> > >
> >> > > We need to fix a new release date by which we can be sure that the
> >> > modules
> >> > > we are responsible for are ready (see
> >> > > CLEREZZA-485<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-485>
> >> > > . Note, those assigned names may still change a bit)
> >> > >
> >> > > Candidate dates are:
> >> > >
> >> > > [ ] 17 April 2011
> >> > > [ ] 1 May 2011
> >> > > [ ] 15 May 2011
> >> > > [ ] 29 May 2011
> >> >
> >> > I would go for 29 May to early June.
> >> >
> >> > The reason is that the Federated Social Web Conference will be taking
> >> place
> >> > in Berlin on June 2-3
> >> >
> >> >  http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/
> >> >
> >> > Where the WebID Incubator group will be meeting as well as the W3C
> >> > Federated Social Web Group. It is also sponsored by a large European
> >> > Research project http://www.primelife.eu/  working on the social web.
> >> >
> >> > A week before that the W3C browser vendors are meeting in Mountain
> View
> >> > California for an Identity in the Browser summit where we would like
> to
> >> show
> >> > a demo of of interlinked social networks, of which Clerezza
> >> >   http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ . This is important long term,
> but
> >> I
> >> > don't expect these folks to download ZZ and play with it.
> >> >
> >> > The Berlin Conference is the important one. It would be nice to be
> able
> >> to
> >> > point attendees there to Clerezza, with an easy install so that we can
> >> gain
> >> > commiters. They will of course only do this if we can have a social
> web
> >> > story, which is what I am building here.
> >> >
> >> > The pieces that would make crowds enthusiastic there will be
> >> >
> >> >  - webID
> >> >  - Browsing the social web
> >> >  - adding friends
> >> >  - Friend requests ( using pingback )
> >> >  - blog engine, including ability to comment on posts authenticated
> with
> >> > webid
> >> >
> >> > Most of that is implemented. We just need the blog engine and serious
> UI
> >> > improvements on pingback and friending.
> >> >
> >> >  When I have the blog engine running, then I'll be able to blog about
> ZZ.
> >> >
> >> > Henry
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > We'll use the latest date chosen. I don't think we should delay
> release
> >> > > beyond end of May 2011.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > Hasan
> >> >
> >> > Social Web Architect
> >> > http://bblfish.net/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --trialox ag--------------------------------------
>
> Tsuyoshi Ito
> Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> CH-8050 Zürich
> Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> URL: http://trialox.org
>

Re: Vote: release date of Apache Clerezza

Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Right and if you need it I have some Lucene/Solr experience and I'd be happy
to help.
Tommaso

2011/5/25 Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>

> this sound very promising, looking forward to it!
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Note:
> > CRIS (Composite Resource Index Service) allows to find resources using
> > lucene. Futhermore CRIS provides faceted search and sorting
> functionality.
> > I
> > will post some more information as soon as we are ready for review.
> >
> > Daniel is working on the documentation of CRIS. As soon as he has
> finished
> > and CRIS has moved from the issue to the trunk I can implement the
> > global-search.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Tsuy
> >
> > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> > reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I don't see many impediments for releaseing now.
> > >
> > > Some little things:
> > > - the search mini form (on the top-right) yields to a 404, we should
> > remove
> > > the form or implemente global-search with the CRIS service (searching
> at
> > > least titled-contents)
> > >
> > > - the default style doesn't uses the clerezza logo, one variant would
> be
> > to
> > > make the style used for the website the default-style, and make the
> > current
> > > style an option "classic-style" bundle
> > >
> > > - the start page http://localhost:8080/ should at least be shown with
> > menu
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Reto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Hasan
> > > >
> > > > I prefer as soon as possible (15 May would be possible but 29 May is
> > > > also ok for me)  - if necessary don't release unstable/experimental
> > > > projects.
> > > >
> > > > I am pushing for a release because we have already customers using
> > > > clerezza and it takes a lot of time to test and fix new features from
> > > > the SNAPSHOT-versions every week to deploy updates.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > > tsuy
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Reto, All
> > > > >
> > > > > Henry has pointed out his preference for the release date.
> > > > > If you have a good reason for supporting or against this, please
> just
> > > > tell
> > > > > us and also your preference
> > > > > Based on your preferences and reasons, I'll make a proposal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Feedback until Friday evening this week is appreciated
> > > > >
> > > > > Hasan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> > > > > reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'm not sure how these non-binary votes are supposed to work. I
> > think
> > > it
> > > > >> would be easier to informally ask for prefernces and then make a
> > > > proposal.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cheers,
> > > > >> Reto
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Henry Story <
> > henry.story@bblfish.net
> > > > >> >wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On 5 Apr 2011, at 12:14, Hasan Hasan wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Dear all
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > We need to fix a new release date by which we can be sure that
> > the
> > > > >> > modules
> > > > >> > > we are responsible for are ready (see
> > > > >> > > CLEREZZA-485<
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-485
> > >
> > > > >> > > . Note, those assigned names may still change a bit)
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Candidate dates are:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > [ ] 17 April 2011
> > > > >> > > [ ] 1 May 2011
> > > > >> > > [ ] 15 May 2011
> > > > >> > > [ ] 29 May 2011
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I would go for 29 May to early June.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The reason is that the Federated Social Web Conference will be
> > > taking
> > > > >> place
> > > > >> > in Berlin on June 2-3
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >  http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Where the WebID Incubator group will be meeting as well as the
> W3C
> > > > >> > Federated Social Web Group. It is also sponsored by a large
> > European
> > > > >> > Research project http://www.primelife.eu/  working on the
> social
> > > web.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > A week before that the W3C browser vendors are meeting in
> Mountain
> > > > View
> > > > >> > California for an Identity in the Browser summit where we would
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > >> show
> > > > >> > a demo of of interlinked social networks, of which Clerezza
> > > > >> >   http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ . This is important long
> > > term,
> > > > but
> > > > >> I
> > > > >> > don't expect these folks to download ZZ and play with it.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The Berlin Conference is the important one. It would be nice to
> be
> > > > able
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > point attendees there to Clerezza, with an easy install so that
> we
> > > can
> > > > >> gain
> > > > >> > commiters. They will of course only do this if we can have a
> > social
> > > > web
> > > > >> > story, which is what I am building here.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > The pieces that would make crowds enthusiastic there will be
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >  - webID
> > > > >> >  - Browsing the social web
> > > > >> >  - adding friends
> > > > >> >  - Friend requests ( using pingback )
> > > > >> >  - blog engine, including ability to comment on posts
> > authenticated
> > > > with
> > > > >> > webid
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Most of that is implemented. We just need the blog engine and
> > > serious
> > > > UI
> > > > >> > improvements on pingback and friending.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >  When I have the blog engine running, then I'll be able to blog
> > > about
> > > > ZZ.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Henry
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > We'll use the latest date chosen. I don't think we should
> delay
> > > > release
> > > > >> > > beyond end of May 2011.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Regards
> > > > >> > > Hasan
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Social Web Architect
> > > > >> > http://bblfish.net/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --trialox ag--------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Tsuyoshi Ito
> > > > Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> > > > CH-8050 Zürich
> > > > Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> > > > URL: http://trialox.org
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --trialox ag--------------------------------------
> >
> > Tsuyoshi Ito
> > Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> > CH-8050 Zürich
> > Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> > URL: http://trialox.org
> >
>

Re: Vote: release date of Apache Clerezza

Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
this sound very promising, looking forward to it!

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Note:
> CRIS (Composite Resource Index Service) allows to find resources using
> lucene. Futhermore CRIS provides faceted search and sorting functionality.
> I
> will post some more information as soon as we are ready for review.
>
> Daniel is working on the documentation of CRIS. As soon as he has finished
> and CRIS has moved from the issue to the trunk I can implement the
> global-search.
>
> Cheers
> Tsuy
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I don't see many impediments for releaseing now.
> >
> > Some little things:
> > - the search mini form (on the top-right) yields to a 404, we should
> remove
> > the form or implemente global-search with the CRIS service (searching at
> > least titled-contents)
> >
> > - the default style doesn't uses the clerezza logo, one variant would be
> to
> > make the style used for the website the default-style, and make the
> current
> > style an option "classic-style" bundle
> >
> > - the start page http://localhost:8080/ should at least be shown with
> menu
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Reto
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Hasan
> > >
> > > I prefer as soon as possible (15 May would be possible but 29 May is
> > > also ok for me)  - if necessary don't release unstable/experimental
> > > projects.
> > >
> > > I am pushing for a release because we have already customers using
> > > clerezza and it takes a lot of time to test and fix new features from
> > > the SNAPSHOT-versions every week to deploy updates.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > tsuy
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi Reto, All
> > > >
> > > > Henry has pointed out his preference for the release date.
> > > > If you have a good reason for supporting or against this, please just
> > > tell
> > > > us and also your preference
> > > > Based on your preferences and reasons, I'll make a proposal.
> > > >
> > > > Feedback until Friday evening this week is appreciated
> > > >
> > > > Hasan
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> > > > reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm not sure how these non-binary votes are supposed to work. I
> think
> > it
> > > >> would be easier to informally ask for prefernces and then make a
> > > proposal.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >> Reto
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Henry Story <
> henry.story@bblfish.net
> > > >> >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 5 Apr 2011, at 12:14, Hasan Hasan wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Dear all
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > We need to fix a new release date by which we can be sure that
> the
> > > >> > modules
> > > >> > > we are responsible for are ready (see
> > > >> > > CLEREZZA-485<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-485
> >
> > > >> > > . Note, those assigned names may still change a bit)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Candidate dates are:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > [ ] 17 April 2011
> > > >> > > [ ] 1 May 2011
> > > >> > > [ ] 15 May 2011
> > > >> > > [ ] 29 May 2011
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I would go for 29 May to early June.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The reason is that the Federated Social Web Conference will be
> > taking
> > > >> place
> > > >> > in Berlin on June 2-3
> > > >> >
> > > >> >  http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Where the WebID Incubator group will be meeting as well as the W3C
> > > >> > Federated Social Web Group. It is also sponsored by a large
> European
> > > >> > Research project http://www.primelife.eu/  working on the social
> > web.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > A week before that the W3C browser vendors are meeting in Mountain
> > > View
> > > >> > California for an Identity in the Browser summit where we would
> like
> > > to
> > > >> show
> > > >> > a demo of of interlinked social networks, of which Clerezza
> > > >> >   http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ . This is important long
> > term,
> > > but
> > > >> I
> > > >> > don't expect these folks to download ZZ and play with it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The Berlin Conference is the important one. It would be nice to be
> > > able
> > > >> to
> > > >> > point attendees there to Clerezza, with an easy install so that we
> > can
> > > >> gain
> > > >> > commiters. They will of course only do this if we can have a
> social
> > > web
> > > >> > story, which is what I am building here.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The pieces that would make crowds enthusiastic there will be
> > > >> >
> > > >> >  - webID
> > > >> >  - Browsing the social web
> > > >> >  - adding friends
> > > >> >  - Friend requests ( using pingback )
> > > >> >  - blog engine, including ability to comment on posts
> authenticated
> > > with
> > > >> > webid
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Most of that is implemented. We just need the blog engine and
> > serious
> > > UI
> > > >> > improvements on pingback and friending.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >  When I have the blog engine running, then I'll be able to blog
> > about
> > > ZZ.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Henry
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > We'll use the latest date chosen. I don't think we should delay
> > > release
> > > >> > > beyond end of May 2011.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Regards
> > > >> > > Hasan
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Social Web Architect
> > > >> > http://bblfish.net/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > --trialox ag--------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Tsuyoshi Ito
> > > Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> > > CH-8050 Zürich
> > > Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> > > URL: http://trialox.org
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --trialox ag--------------------------------------
>
> Tsuyoshi Ito
> Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> CH-8050 Zürich
> Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> URL: http://trialox.org
>

Re: Vote: release date of Apache Clerezza

Posted by Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org>.
Hi

Note:
CRIS (Composite Resource Index Service) allows to find resources using
lucene. Futhermore CRIS provides faceted search and sorting functionality. I
will post some more information as soon as we are ready for review.

Daniel is working on the documentation of CRIS. As soon as he has finished
and CRIS has moved from the issue to the trunk I can implement the
global-search.

Cheers
Tsuy

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I don't see many impediments for releaseing now.
>
> Some little things:
> - the search mini form (on the top-right) yields to a 404, we should remove
> the form or implemente global-search with the CRIS service (searching at
> least titled-contents)
>
> - the default style doesn't uses the clerezza logo, one variant would be to
> make the style used for the website the default-style, and make the current
> style an option "classic-style" bundle
>
> - the start page http://localhost:8080/ should at least be shown with menu
>
> Cheers,
> Reto
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Hasan
> >
> > I prefer as soon as possible (15 May would be possible but 29 May is
> > also ok for me)  - if necessary don't release unstable/experimental
> > projects.
> >
> > I am pushing for a release because we have already customers using
> > clerezza and it takes a lot of time to test and fix new features from
> > the SNAPSHOT-versions every week to deploy updates.
> >
> > cheers
> > tsuy
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Reto, All
> > >
> > > Henry has pointed out his preference for the release date.
> > > If you have a good reason for supporting or against this, please just
> > tell
> > > us and also your preference
> > > Based on your preferences and reasons, I'll make a proposal.
> > >
> > > Feedback until Friday evening this week is appreciated
> > >
> > > Hasan
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> > > reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm not sure how these non-binary votes are supposed to work. I think
> it
> > >> would be easier to informally ask for prefernces and then make a
> > proposal.
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Reto
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net
> > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > On 5 Apr 2011, at 12:14, Hasan Hasan wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Dear all
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We need to fix a new release date by which we can be sure that the
> > >> > modules
> > >> > > we are responsible for are ready (see
> > >> > > CLEREZZA-485<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLEREZZA-485>
> > >> > > . Note, those assigned names may still change a bit)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Candidate dates are:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > [ ] 17 April 2011
> > >> > > [ ] 1 May 2011
> > >> > > [ ] 15 May 2011
> > >> > > [ ] 29 May 2011
> > >> >
> > >> > I would go for 29 May to early June.
> > >> >
> > >> > The reason is that the Federated Social Web Conference will be
> taking
> > >> place
> > >> > in Berlin on June 2-3
> > >> >
> > >> >  http://d-cent.org/fsw2011/
> > >> >
> > >> > Where the WebID Incubator group will be meeting as well as the W3C
> > >> > Federated Social Web Group. It is also sponsored by a large European
> > >> > Research project http://www.primelife.eu/  working on the social
> web.
> > >> >
> > >> > A week before that the W3C browser vendors are meeting in Mountain
> > View
> > >> > California for an Identity in the Browser summit where we would like
> > to
> > >> show
> > >> > a demo of of interlinked social networks, of which Clerezza
> > >> >   http://www.w3.org/2011/identity-ws/ . This is important long
> term,
> > but
> > >> I
> > >> > don't expect these folks to download ZZ and play with it.
> > >> >
> > >> > The Berlin Conference is the important one. It would be nice to be
> > able
> > >> to
> > >> > point attendees there to Clerezza, with an easy install so that we
> can
> > >> gain
> > >> > commiters. They will of course only do this if we can have a social
> > web
> > >> > story, which is what I am building here.
> > >> >
> > >> > The pieces that would make crowds enthusiastic there will be
> > >> >
> > >> >  - webID
> > >> >  - Browsing the social web
> > >> >  - adding friends
> > >> >  - Friend requests ( using pingback )
> > >> >  - blog engine, including ability to comment on posts authenticated
> > with
> > >> > webid
> > >> >
> > >> > Most of that is implemented. We just need the blog engine and
> serious
> > UI
> > >> > improvements on pingback and friending.
> > >> >
> > >> >  When I have the blog engine running, then I'll be able to blog
> about
> > ZZ.
> > >> >
> > >> > Henry
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We'll use the latest date chosen. I don't think we should delay
> > release
> > >> > > beyond end of May 2011.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regards
> > >> > > Hasan
> > >> >
> > >> > Social Web Architect
> > >> > http://bblfish.net/
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --trialox ag--------------------------------------
> >
> > Tsuyoshi Ito
> > Binzmuehlestrasse 14
> > CH-8050 Zürich
> > Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
> > URL: http://trialox.org
> >
>



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Tsuyoshi Ito
Binzmuehlestrasse 14
CH-8050 Zürich
Tel. +41 44 635 75 77
URL: http://trialox.org