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[REPORT] Please review
Hello,
Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
SDAP
SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science problems.
SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
2. Improve/create user guide documentation
3. Improve committer participation
Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
aware of?
No.
How has the community developed since the last report?
We are continuing to attract new committers.
How has the project developed since the last report?
SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a repeatable
build pipeline has been started.
New functionality has been added to the Distributed Oceanographic Matchup
Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE) components
that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized quality
flag.
How would you assess the podling's maturity?
There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and interest is
high. However, active participation from project members is low. A push is
needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting the
requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can claim a 1.0
version of SDAP.
Please feel free to add your own commentary.
[X] Initial setup
[X] Working towards first release
[X] Community building
[ ] Nearing graduation
Date of last release:
XXXX-XX-XX
When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling
through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues
that need to be addressed.
Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
Signed-off-by:
[ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
Comments:
[ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
Comments:
[ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
Comments:
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>.
Sorry- Justin got back to me last night, I saw this morning- he said yes
that's the right thing to do and that he saw the entry.
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:48 AM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org> wrote:
> FYI - I've edited the Wiki directly to add our report to it.
>
> - Frank
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:25 AM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting
> > there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite.
> >
> > tg
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer <
> > j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors
> and
> > > help for the initial release.
> > > Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in
> > > the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
> > >
> > > I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat
> there!
> > >
> > > Julian
> > >
> > > Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <tr...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Cool.
> > >
> > > Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating
> > > the IoT
> > > room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
> > >
> > > Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch
> up
> > > with
> > > him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
> > > non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator
> > > projects
> > > are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
> > > sometimes be different.
> > >
> > > Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack
> > > channel, but
> > > haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
> > > something on there I'll respond.
> > >
> > > tg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Trevor.
> > > >
> > > > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission
> is
> > > today, I
> > > > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit
> > > the wiki
> > > > directly?
> > > >
> > > > wrt your questions:
> > > > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and
> > > talking about
> > > > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> > > > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the
> > code
> > > is
> > > > running in a few different places. The main problem with the
> > release
> > > at
> > > > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal
> > > requirements
> > > > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not
> > > releasing all
> > > > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> > > > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation
> > > challenging.
> > > > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we
> > were
> > > told
> > > > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's
> > still
> > > > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are
> > > not JAR
> > > > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that
> > issue:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now
> it
> > > seems
> > > > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're
> > > actually
> > > > supposed to do.
> > > >
> > > > - Frank
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <
> > > trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> > > > >
> > > > > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable
> to
> > > find
> > > > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights
> (I'm
> > > seeing
> > > > one
> > > > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep
> > > growing
> > > > the
> > > > > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption,
> which
> > > will
> > > > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw
> > > from. Sort
> > > > > of a chicken and egg problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there
> any
> > > talks
> > > > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe
> a
> > > > lightning
> > > > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously
> > > mentioned
> > > > > feedback loop.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that
> is
> > > the
> > > > thing
> > > > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x
> > > release
> > > > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should
> have a
> > > 0.x
> > > > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two
> > > cents).
> > > > >
> > > > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my
> comments.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <
> fgreg@apache.org
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SDAP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science
> > > problems.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > > graduation:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > > > > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > > > > > 3. Improve committer participation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board
> wish/need
> > > to be
> > > > > > aware of?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work
> towards a
> > > > > repeatable
> > > > > > build pipeline has been started.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed
> > Oceanographic
> > > > Matchup
> > > > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> > > > components
> > > > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a
> standardized
> > > quality
> > > > > > flag.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and
> > > interest
> > > > is
> > > > > > high. However, active participation from project members is
> > low.
> > > A push
> > > > > is
> > > > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting
> > the
> > > > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can
> > > claim a
> > > > 1.0
> > > > > > version of SDAP.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [X] Initial setup
> > > > > > [X] Working towards first release
> > > > > > [X] Community building
> > > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > XXXX-XX-XX
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things
> > > falling
> > > > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open
> > > issues
> > > > > > that need to be addressed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Signed-off-by:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > > > > > Comments:
> > > > > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > > > > > Comments:
> > > > > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > > > > > Comments:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>.
FYI - I've edited the Wiki directly to add our report to it.
- Frank
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:25 AM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting
> there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite.
>
> tg
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer <
> j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors and
> > help for the initial release.
> > Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in
> > the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
> >
> > I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat there!
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <tr...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Cool.
> >
> > Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating
> > the IoT
> > room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
> >
> > Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up
> > with
> > him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
> > non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator
> > projects
> > are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
> > sometimes be different.
> >
> > Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack
> > channel, but
> > haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
> > something on there I'll respond.
> >
> > tg
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Trevor.
> > >
> > > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is
> > today, I
> > > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit
> > the wiki
> > > directly?
> > >
> > > wrt your questions:
> > > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and
> > talking about
> > > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> > > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the
> code
> > is
> > > running in a few different places. The main problem with the
> release
> > at
> > > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal
> > requirements
> > > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not
> > releasing all
> > > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> > > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation
> > challenging.
> > > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we
> were
> > told
> > > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's
> still
> > > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are
> > not JAR
> > > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that
> issue:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it
> > seems
> > > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're
> > actually
> > > supposed to do.
> > >
> > > - Frank
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <
> > trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> > > >
> > > > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to
> > find
> > > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm
> > seeing
> > > one
> > > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep
> > growing
> > > the
> > > > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which
> > will
> > > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw
> > from. Sort
> > > > of a chicken and egg problem.
> > > >
> > > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any
> > talks
> > > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a
> > > lightning
> > > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously
> > mentioned
> > > > feedback loop.
> > > >
> > > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is
> > the
> > > thing
> > > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x
> > release
> > > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a
> > 0.x
> > > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two
> > cents).
> > > >
> > > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fgreg@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science
> > problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > > > >
> > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > graduation:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > > > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > > > > 3. Improve committer participation
> > > > >
> > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
> > to be
> > > > > aware of?
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a
> > > > repeatable
> > > > > build pipeline has been started.
> > > > >
> > > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed
> Oceanographic
> > > Matchup
> > > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> > > components
> > > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized
> > quality
> > > > > flag.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and
> > interest
> > > is
> > > > > high. However, active participation from project members is
> low.
> > A push
> > > > is
> > > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting
> the
> > > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can
> > claim a
> > > 1.0
> > > > > version of SDAP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > >
> > > > > [X] Initial setup
> > > > > [X] Working towards first release
> > > > > [X] Community building
> > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > >
> > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > >
> > > > > XXXX-XX-XX
> > > > >
> > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > >
> > > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > > > >
> > > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things
> > falling
> > > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open
> > issues
> > > > > that need to be addressed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by:
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
Damn... I'm unsure if I can attend.. try my best.
See you!
Julian
Am 08.09.19, 22:47 schrieb "Frank Greguska" <fg...@apache.org>:
Last minute change of plans, I'll be giving the talk on SDAP tomorrow.
Looking forward to meeting you all.
- Frank
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:25 AM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting
> there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite.
>
> tg
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer <
> j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors and
> > help for the initial release.
> > Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in
> > the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
> >
> > I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat there!
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <tr...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Cool.
> >
> > Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating
> > the IoT
> > room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
> >
> > Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up
> > with
> > him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
> > non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator
> > projects
> > are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
> > sometimes be different.
> >
> > Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack
> > channel, but
> > haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
> > something on there I'll respond.
> >
> > tg
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Trevor.
> > >
> > > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is
> > today, I
> > > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit
> > the wiki
> > > directly?
> > >
> > > wrt your questions:
> > > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and
> > talking about
> > > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> > > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the
> code
> > is
> > > running in a few different places. The main problem with the
> release
> > at
> > > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal
> > requirements
> > > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not
> > releasing all
> > > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> > > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation
> > challenging.
> > > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we
> were
> > told
> > > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's
> still
> > > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are
> > not JAR
> > > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that
> issue:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it
> > seems
> > > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're
> > actually
> > > supposed to do.
> > >
> > > - Frank
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <
> > trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> > > >
> > > > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to
> > find
> > > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm
> > seeing
> > > one
> > > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep
> > growing
> > > the
> > > > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which
> > will
> > > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw
> > from. Sort
> > > > of a chicken and egg problem.
> > > >
> > > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any
> > talks
> > > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a
> > > lightning
> > > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously
> > mentioned
> > > > feedback loop.
> > > >
> > > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is
> > the
> > > thing
> > > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x
> > release
> > > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a
> > 0.x
> > > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two
> > cents).
> > > >
> > > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fgreg@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science
> > problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > > > >
> > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > graduation:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > > > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > > > > 3. Improve committer participation
> > > > >
> > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
> > to be
> > > > > aware of?
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a
> > > > repeatable
> > > > > build pipeline has been started.
> > > > >
> > > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed
> Oceanographic
> > > Matchup
> > > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> > > components
> > > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized
> > quality
> > > > > flag.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and
> > interest
> > > is
> > > > > high. However, active participation from project members is
> low.
> > A push
> > > > is
> > > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting
> the
> > > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can
> > claim a
> > > 1.0
> > > > > version of SDAP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > >
> > > > > [X] Initial setup
> > > > > [X] Working towards first release
> > > > > [X] Community building
> > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > >
> > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > >
> > > > > XXXX-XX-XX
> > > > >
> > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > >
> > > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > > > >
> > > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things
> > falling
> > > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open
> > issues
> > > > > that need to be addressed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by:
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>.
Last minute change of plans, I'll be giving the talk on SDAP tomorrow.
Looking forward to meeting you all.
- Frank
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 6:25 AM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting
> there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite.
>
> tg
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer <
> j.feinauer@pragmaticminds.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors and
> > help for the initial release.
> > Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in
> > the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
> >
> > I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat there!
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <tr...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Cool.
> >
> > Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating
> > the IoT
> > room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
> >
> > Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up
> > with
> > him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
> > non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator
> > projects
> > are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
> > sometimes be different.
> >
> > Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack
> > channel, but
> > haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
> > something on there I'll respond.
> >
> > tg
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Trevor.
> > >
> > > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is
> > today, I
> > > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit
> > the wiki
> > > directly?
> > >
> > > wrt your questions:
> > > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and
> > talking about
> > > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> > > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the
> code
> > is
> > > running in a few different places. The main problem with the
> release
> > at
> > > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal
> > requirements
> > > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not
> > releasing all
> > > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> > > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation
> > challenging.
> > > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we
> were
> > told
> > > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's
> still
> > > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are
> > not JAR
> > > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that
> issue:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it
> > seems
> > > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're
> > actually
> > > supposed to do.
> > >
> > > - Frank
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <
> > trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> > > >
> > > > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to
> > find
> > > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm
> > seeing
> > > one
> > > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep
> > growing
> > > the
> > > > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which
> > will
> > > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw
> > from. Sort
> > > > of a chicken and egg problem.
> > > >
> > > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any
> > talks
> > > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a
> > > lightning
> > > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously
> > mentioned
> > > > feedback loop.
> > > >
> > > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is
> > the
> > > thing
> > > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x
> > release
> > > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a
> > 0.x
> > > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two
> > cents).
> > > >
> > > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fgreg@apache.org
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science
> > problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > > > >
> > > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > graduation:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > > > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > > > > 3. Improve committer participation
> > > > >
> > > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
> > to be
> > > > > aware of?
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > > > >
> > > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > > >
> > > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a
> > > > repeatable
> > > > > build pipeline has been started.
> > > > >
> > > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed
> Oceanographic
> > > Matchup
> > > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> > > components
> > > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized
> > quality
> > > > > flag.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and
> > interest
> > > is
> > > > > high. However, active participation from project members is
> low.
> > A push
> > > > is
> > > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting
> the
> > > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can
> > claim a
> > > 1.0
> > > > > version of SDAP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > > >
> > > > > [X] Initial setup
> > > > > [X] Working towards first release
> > > > > [X] Community building
> > > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > > >
> > > > > Date of last release:
> > > > >
> > > > > XXXX-XX-XX
> > > > >
> > > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > > >
> > > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > > > >
> > > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things
> > falling
> > > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open
> > issues
> > > > > that need to be addressed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by:
> > > > >
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > > > > Comments:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>.
Great- I think its lunch after Brian's talk- let's all plan on meeting
there then we can go somewhere and grab a bite.
tg
On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 1:20 AM Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors and
> help for the initial release.
> Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in
> the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
>
> I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat there!
>
> Julian
>
> Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <tr...@gmail.com>:
>
> Cool.
>
> Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating
> the IoT
> room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
>
> Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up
> with
> him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
> non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator
> projects
> are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
> sometimes be different.
>
> Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack
> channel, but
> haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
> something on there I'll respond.
>
> tg
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Trevor.
> >
> > Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is
> today, I
> > am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit
> the wiki
> > directly?
> >
> > wrt your questions:
> > I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and
> talking about
> > SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> > I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the code
> is
> > running in a few different places. The main problem with the release
> at
> > this point is understanding and complying with all the legal
> requirements
> > Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not
> releasing all
> > components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> > understanding the Apache release requirements documentation
> challenging.
> > Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we were
> told
> > we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's still
> > unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are
> not JAR
> > files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that issue:
> >
> >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it
> seems
> > that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're
> actually
> > supposed to do.
> >
> > - Frank
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <
> trevor.d.grant@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> > >
> > > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to
> find
> > > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm
> seeing
> > one
> > > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep
> growing
> > the
> > > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which
> will
> > > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw
> from. Sort
> > > of a chicken and egg problem.
> > >
> > > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any
> talks
> > > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a
> > lightning
> > > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously
> mentioned
> > > feedback loop.
> > >
> > > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is
> the
> > thing
> > > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x
> release
> > > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a
> 0.x
> > > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two
> cents).
> > >
> > > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > SDAP
> > > >
> > > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science
> problems.
> > > >
> > > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > > >
> > > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> graduation:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > > > 3. Improve committer participation
> > > >
> > > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need
> to be
> > > > aware of?
> > > >
> > > > No.
> > > >
> > > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > > >
> > > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > > >
> > > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > > >
> > > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a
> > > repeatable
> > > > build pipeline has been started.
> > > >
> > > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed Oceanographic
> > Matchup
> > > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> > components
> > > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized
> quality
> > > > flag.
> > > >
> > > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > > >
> > > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and
> interest
> > is
> > > > high. However, active participation from project members is low.
> A push
> > > is
> > > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting the
> > > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can
> claim a
> > 1.0
> > > > version of SDAP.
> > > >
> > > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > > >
> > > > [X] Initial setup
> > > > [X] Working towards first release
> > > > [X] Community building
> > > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > > >
> > > > Date of last release:
> > > >
> > > > XXXX-XX-XX
> > > >
> > > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > > >
> > > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > > >
> > > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things
> falling
> > > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open
> issues
> > > > that need to be addressed.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by:
> > > >
> > > > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > > > Comments:
> > > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > > > Comments:
> > > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > > > Comments:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Julian Feinauer <j....@pragmaticminds.de>.
Hi all,
I joined the sdap list a while back when you were looking for Mentors and help for the initial release.
Since then I became IPMC member so I could also offer you to support in the release (and, if still needed) as mentor as well.
I will also be at ACNA so would be nice to get in contact and chat there!
Julian
Am 04.09.19, 22:49 schrieb "Trevor Grant" <tr...@gmail.com>:
Cool.
Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating the IoT
room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up with
him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator projects
are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
sometimes be different.
Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack channel, but
haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
something on there I'll respond.
tg
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks Trevor.
>
> Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is today, I
> am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit the wiki
> directly?
>
> wrt your questions:
> I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and talking about
> SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the code is
> running in a few different places. The main problem with the release at
> this point is understanding and complying with all the legal requirements
> Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not releasing all
> components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> understanding the Apache release requirements documentation challenging.
> Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we were told
> we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's still
> unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are not JAR
> files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that issue:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it seems
> that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're actually
> supposed to do.
>
> - Frank
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> >
> > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to find
> > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm seeing
> one
> > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep growing
> the
> > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which will
> > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw from. Sort
> > of a chicken and egg problem.
> >
> > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any talks
> > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a
> lightning
> > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously mentioned
> > feedback loop.
> >
> > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is the
> thing
> > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x release
> > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a 0.x
> > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two cents).
> >
> > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > >
> > >
> > > SDAP
> > >
> > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science problems.
> > >
> > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > >
> > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> > >
> > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > > 3. Improve committer participation
> > >
> > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > > aware of?
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > >
> > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a
> > repeatable
> > > build pipeline has been started.
> > >
> > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed Oceanographic
> Matchup
> > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> components
> > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized quality
> > > flag.
> > >
> > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > >
> > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and interest
> is
> > > high. However, active participation from project members is low. A push
> > is
> > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting the
> > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can claim a
> 1.0
> > > version of SDAP.
> > >
> > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > >
> > > [X] Initial setup
> > > [X] Working towards first release
> > > [X] Community building
> > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > >
> > > Date of last release:
> > >
> > > XXXX-XX-XX
> > >
> > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > >
> > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > >
> > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling
> > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues
> > > that need to be addressed.
> > >
> > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by:
> > >
> > > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > > Comments:
> > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > > Comments:
> > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > > Comments:
> > >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>.
Cool.
Brian's talk is at the same time I'm supposed to be in / moderating the IoT
room, but I'm going to try to sneak away for an hour to see that.
Justin will be speaking first up in the IoT track so we can catch up with
him down and chat there about release requirements. There are other
non-Java Apache projects but I also I've heard what non-incubator projects
are allow to grandfather in vs what incubator projects must do can
sometimes be different.
Re: wiki- I don't know- I've just asked on the incubator slack channel, but
haven't had a response yet. Do what you think is best(?) if I hear
something on there I'll respond.
tg
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 2:18 PM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org> wrote:
> Thanks Trevor.
>
> Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is today, I
> am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit the wiki
> directly?
>
> wrt your questions:
> I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and talking about
> SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
> I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the code is
> running in a few different places. The main problem with the release at
> this point is understanding and complying with all the legal requirements
> Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not releasing all
> components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
> understanding the Apache release requirements documentation challenging.
> Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we were told
> we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's still
> unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are not JAR
> files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that issue:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it seems
> that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're actually
> supposed to do.
>
> - Frank
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This looks good- thanks Frank.
> >
> > Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to find
> > someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm seeing
> one
> > hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep growing
> the
> > community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which will
> > create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw from. Sort
> > of a chicken and egg problem.
> >
> > Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any talks
> > coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a
> lightning
> > talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously mentioned
> > feedback loop.
> >
> > I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is the
> thing
> > everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x release
> > first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a 0.x
> > release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two cents).
> >
> > This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> > >
> > >
> > > SDAP
> > >
> > > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science problems.
> > >
> > > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> > >
> > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> > >
> > > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > > 3. Improve committer participation
> > >
> > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > > aware of?
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> > >
> > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >
> > > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a
> > repeatable
> > > build pipeline has been started.
> > >
> > > New functionality has been added to the Distributed Oceanographic
> Matchup
> > > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE)
> components
> > > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized quality
> > > flag.
> > >
> > > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> > >
> > > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and interest
> is
> > > high. However, active participation from project members is low. A push
> > is
> > > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting the
> > > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can claim a
> 1.0
> > > version of SDAP.
> > >
> > > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> > >
> > > [X] Initial setup
> > > [X] Working towards first release
> > > [X] Community building
> > > [ ] Nearing graduation
> > >
> > > Date of last release:
> > >
> > > XXXX-XX-XX
> > >
> > > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> > >
> > > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> > >
> > > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling
> > > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues
> > > that need to be addressed.
> > >
> > > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by:
> > >
> > > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > > Comments:
> > > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > > Comments:
> > > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > > Comments:
> > >
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org>.
Thanks Trevor.
Since there are no further comments and deadline for submission is today, I
am comfortable with submitting this report. Am I supposed to edit the wiki
directly?
wrt your questions:
I believe Brian Wilson is planning on attending ApacheCon and talking about
SDAP and is currently working on putting together materials.
I think we're ok with a 1.0 release because this version of the code is
running in a few different places. The main problem with the release at
this point is understanding and complying with all the legal requirements
Apache has to call it a release. Also the fact that we're not releasing all
components to Maven (because they aren't Java components) makes
understanding the Apache release requirements documentation challenging.
Most of our release artifacts are actually docker images but we were told
we cannot push unreleased docker images to dockerhub, and it's still
unclear what the process is then for releasing artifacts that are not JAR
files. This is the discussion that was kicked off due to that issue:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9cdc55e46a6fe23e1c0fcbdee6032f4949572311b0ded10cf6353be0@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
but I did not have time to follow it entirely. Re-reading it now it seems
that there is still a bit of an open question as to what we're actually
supposed to do.
- Frank
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 8:47 AM Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This looks good- thanks Frank.
>
> Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to find
> someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm seeing one
> hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep growing the
> community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which will
> create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw from. Sort
> of a chicken and egg problem.
>
> Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any talks
> coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a lightning
> talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously mentioned
> feedback loop.
>
> I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is the thing
> everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x release
> first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a 0.x
> release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two cents).
>
> This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
> >
> >
> > SDAP
> >
> > SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science problems.
> >
> > SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
> >
> > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> >
> > 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> > 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> > 3. Improve committer participation
> >
> > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > aware of?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > How has the community developed since the last report?
> >
> > We are continuing to attract new committers.
> >
> > How has the project developed since the last report?
> >
> > SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a
> repeatable
> > build pipeline has been started.
> >
> > New functionality has been added to the Distributed Oceanographic Matchup
> > Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE) components
> > that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized quality
> > flag.
> >
> > How would you assess the podling's maturity?
> >
> > There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and interest is
> > high. However, active participation from project members is low. A push
> is
> > needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting the
> > requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can claim a 1.0
> > version of SDAP.
> >
> > Please feel free to add your own commentary.
> >
> > [X] Initial setup
> > [X] Working towards first release
> > [X] Community building
> > [ ] Nearing graduation
> >
> > Date of last release:
> >
> > XXXX-XX-XX
> >
> > When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
> >
> > Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
> >
> > Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling
> > through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues
> > that need to be addressed.
> >
> > Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
> >
> > Signed-off-by:
> >
> > [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> > Comments:
> > [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> > Comments:
> > [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> > Comments:
> >
>
Re: [REPORT] Please review
Posted by Trevor Grant <tr...@gmail.com>.
This looks good- thanks Frank.
Improving/creating docs is always hard. It might be advisable to find
someone who can work on this and give them committer rights (I'm seeing one
hasn't been added since Feb, not horrible, but we want to keep growing the
community). Improved docs will lead to more user adoption, which will
create more committer incentives and a pool of people to draw from. Sort
of a chicken and egg problem.
Has there been any advocacy for the project? (e.g. are there any talks
coming up at Apache Con to get people interested? If not maybe a lightning
talk? Also blog posts). Advocacy can kick start the previously mentioned
feedback loop.
I'm seeing that we're pushing for v1.0 - i know ASF wide that is the thing
everyone is pushing for, however it's probably OK to do a v0.x release
first just to get the ball moving (in fact probably should have a 0.x
release first to check for bugs before pushing 1.0, just my two cents).
This is looking good and I'm signing off, those are my comments.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 10:07 AM Frank Greguska <fg...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Please review the Podling report for SDAP below:
>
>
> SDAP
>
> SDAP is an integrated data analytic framework for Big Science problems.
>
> SDAP has been incubating since 2017-10-22.
>
> Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
>
> 1. Make official SDAP (Incubating) Release
> 2. Improve/create user guide documentation
> 3. Improve committer participation
>
> Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> aware of?
>
> No.
>
> How has the community developed since the last report?
>
> We are continuing to attract new committers.
>
> How has the project developed since the last report?
>
> SDAP is still working towards its first release. Work towards a repeatable
> build pipeline has been started.
>
> New functionality has been added to the Distributed Oceanographic Matchup
> Service (DOMS) and Extensible Data Gateway Environment (EDGE) components
> that allow for filtering in situ measurements by a standardized quality
> flag.
>
> How would you assess the podling's maturity?
>
> There are several deployments of SDAP actively being used and interest is
> high. However, active participation from project members is low. A push is
> needed to cross the t's and dot the i's in regards to meeting the
> requirements Apache has for releasing software so that we can claim a 1.0
> version of SDAP.
>
> Please feel free to add your own commentary.
>
> [X] Initial setup
> [X] Working towards first release
> [X] Community building
> [ ] Nearing graduation
>
> Date of last release:
>
> XXXX-XX-XX
>
> When were the last committers or PPMC members elected?
>
> Maya Debellis was elected as a committer on 2019-02-08
>
> Have your mentors been helpful and responsive or are things falling
> through the cracks? In the latter case, please list any open issues
> that need to be addressed.
>
> Yes, mentors have been helpful and responsive.
>
> Signed-off-by:
>
> [ ](sdap) Jörn Kottmann
> Comments:
> [ ](sdap) Trevor Grant
> Comments:
> [ ](sdap) Lewis John McGibbney
> Comments:
>