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Posted to bluesky-dev@incubator.apache.org by Samul Kevin <lo...@gmail.com> on 2008/10/08 03:31:49 UTC
discussion:what should we do next?
The current situation is : FFmpeg is illegal and so is Arts.Thus we have
two options,in my opinion.
1:find the substitutes of FFmpeg and Arts to meet the criteria of Apache
,then upload the full funtional version of source code;
2:upload the eligiable source code,of course FFmpeg and Arts will be
deleted.At the same time,we seek solution of replacement of FFmpeg and Arts
the trouble lies here:if we uplaod the code according with ASL,people
would only understand part of the function,while if we wait till find the
substitues,the whole process of podling would greatly delay...
so guys, raise your hand and your voice.
--
Bowen Ma a.k.a Samul Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
Re: discussion:what should we do next?
Posted by Jin Cao <ca...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your advance.
We will try our best to find the solution.
2008/10/14, J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>:
>
>
> "Jin Cao" <ca...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > The best situation is that we find the substitutes of FFmpeg and Arts in
> a
> > reasonable "cost". Then,maybe we have to change our code.
> > FFmpeg is one of the most important part of our project, a lot of
> > fundamental functions depend on FFmpeg.
>
> I understand that. And I know switching from FFmpeg would be
> difficult. But FFmpeg has issues beyond just the licensing here in
> Apache. The software includes codecs with patents that make it
> impossible to legally distribute in many countries. This is why many
> Linux distributions do not include it by default.
>
> --
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>
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Jin,Cao a.k.a caojin85cn @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
Re: discussion:what should we do next?
Posted by J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>.
"Jin Cao" <ca...@gmail.com> writes:
> The best situation is that we find the substitutes of FFmpeg and Arts in a
> reasonable "cost". Then,maybe we have to change our code.
> FFmpeg is one of the most important part of our project, a lot of
> fundamental functions depend on FFmpeg.
I understand that. And I know switching from FFmpeg would be
difficult. But FFmpeg has issues beyond just the licensing here in
Apache. The software includes codecs with patents that make it
impossible to legally distribute in many countries. This is why many
Linux distributions do not include it by default.
--
J Aaron Farr jadetower.com [US] +1 724-964-4515
馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905
Re: discussion:what should we do next?
Posted by Jin Cao <ca...@gmail.com>.
The best situation is that we find the substitutes of FFmpeg and Arts in a
reasonable "cost". Then,maybe we have to change our code.
FFmpeg is one of the most important part of our project, a lot of
fundamental functions depend on FFmpeg.
2008/10/13, J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>:
>
>
> Let me see if I can help out here a bit.
>
> FFmpeg can definitely present some problems, both from the LGPL view
> and from issues with patented codecs.
>
> I would consider looking into one of several other open source video
> codecs:
>
> http://www.theora.org/
>
> http://diracvideo.org/about_dirac
>
> I don't know if either of those will have all the software you need,
> but the license for Ogg Theora should be ok. For Dirac, I need to
> look into it a bit more.
>
> I'm not sure what Arts is. Can someone point that out to me?
>
>
> "Samul Kevin" <lo...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > The current situation is : FFmpeg is illegal and so is Arts.Thus we
> have
> > two options,in my opinion.
> >
> > 1:find the substitutes of FFmpeg and Arts to meet the criteria of
> Apache
> > ,then upload the full funtional version of source code;
> > 2:upload the eligiable source code,of course FFmpeg and Arts will be
> > deleted.At the same time,we seek solution of replacement of FFmpeg and
> Arts
> >
> > the trouble lies here:if we uplaod the code according with ASL,people
> > would only understand part of the function,while if we wait till find
> the
> > substitues,the whole process of podling would greatly delay...
> >
> > so guys, raise your hand and your voice.
> > --
> > Bowen Ma a.k.a Samul Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
>
> --
> J Aaron Farr jadetower.com [US] +1 724-964-4515
> �T���� cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905
>
Re: discussion:what should we do next?
Posted by J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>.
Let me see if I can help out here a bit.
FFmpeg can definitely present some problems, both from the LGPL view
and from issues with patented codecs.
I would consider looking into one of several other open source video
codecs:
http://www.theora.org/
http://diracvideo.org/about_dirac
I don't know if either of those will have all the software you need,
but the license for Ogg Theora should be ok. For Dirac, I need to
look into it a bit more.
I'm not sure what Arts is. Can someone point that out to me?
"Samul Kevin" <lo...@gmail.com> writes:
> The current situation is : FFmpeg is illegal and so is Arts.Thus we have
> two options,in my opinion.
>
> 1:find the substitutes of FFmpeg and Arts to meet the criteria of Apache
> ,then upload the full funtional version of source code;
> 2:upload the eligiable source code,of course FFmpeg and Arts will be
> deleted.At the same time,we seek solution of replacement of FFmpeg and Arts
>
> the trouble lies here:if we uplaod the code according with ASL,people
> would only understand part of the function,while if we wait till find the
> substitues,the whole process of podling would greatly delay...
>
> so guys, raise your hand and your voice.
> --
> Bowen Ma a.k.a Samul Kevin @ Bluesky Dev Team XJTU
--
J Aaron Farr jadetower.com [US] +1 724-964-4515
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