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Posted to dev@hbase.apache.org by Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org> on 2017/10/13 22:25:03 UTC
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor product
changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related. Once again,
I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless someone
speaks up.
Same time next month,
-n
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Heya folks,
>
> There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks like nothing
> pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for another
> month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you in early
> October.
>
> Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
>
> Kindly yours,
> Nick
>
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Posted by Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 9:06 AM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> What do you think of my suggestion?
Pardon me Mike, didn't mean to ignore your suggestion. I was waiting for a
few more voices to chime in here. I think your suggestion is the right
choice. 1.1 backports have slowed to a crawl and 1.2 has been marked stable
for some time.
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Maybe we do a final release on it and then EOL the branch?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor product
> >> changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related. Once
> >> again,
> >> I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless
> someone
> >> speaks up.
> >>
> >> Same time next month,
> >> -n
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Heya folks,
> >> >
> >> > There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks like
> >> nothing
> >> > pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for another
> >> > month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you in
> early
> >> > October.
> >> >
> >> > Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
> >> >
> >> > Kindly yours,
> >> > Nick
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Posted by Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>.
Yes, I agree with all of that, but also stable pointing to 1.2 or 1.3
doesn't matter for motivation to EOL 1.1 - as long as there is something
safe to migrate to, we should be good, right? :)
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org> wrote:
> Where I remember we left the discussion on moving the stable pointer was
> Mikhail and Gary would (eventually) provide feedback on if head of
> branch-1.3 was better than older code, or not. Recall they have that one
> odd use case causing occasional regionserver aborts. As for me, we are
> making progress getting 1.3 into production but it is slow going due to a
> bunch of competing priorities not for any technical reasons at this point.
> When we have a few months' experience with a wide scale deployment I will
> be able to say one way or another if 1.3 is stable for us (or not).
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Zach York <zy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The stable pointer is 1.2.x [1] so I think it should be fine to EOL 1.1.
> >
> > [1] http://apache.osuosl.org/hbase/stable/
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:40 PM, 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > IIRC the problem is the stable pointer is still on 1.1.x? No? At least
> > > 1.3.x is not stable yet, Andrew and Mikhail are working on it I
> believe.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>于2017年10月27日 周五00:06写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi Nick,
> > > >
> > > > What do you think of my suggestion?
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe we do a final release on it and then EOL the branch?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <ndimiduk@apache.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor
> product
> > > > >> changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related.
> Once
> > > > >> again,
> > > > >> I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless
> > > > someone
> > > > >> speaks up.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Same time next month,
> > > > >> -n
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <
> ndimiduk@apache.org>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Heya folks,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks
> like
> > > > >> nothing
> > > > >> > pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for
> > > another
> > > > >> > month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you
> in
> > > > early
> > > > >> > October.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Kindly yours,
> > > > >> > Nick
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Andrew
>
> Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
> decrepit hands
> - A23, Crosstalk
>
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Posted by Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>.
Where I remember we left the discussion on moving the stable pointer was
Mikhail and Gary would (eventually) provide feedback on if head of
branch-1.3 was better than older code, or not. Recall they have that one
odd use case causing occasional regionserver aborts. As for me, we are
making progress getting 1.3 into production but it is slow going due to a
bunch of competing priorities not for any technical reasons at this point.
When we have a few months' experience with a wide scale deployment I will
be able to say one way or another if 1.3 is stable for us (or not).
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Zach York <zy...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The stable pointer is 1.2.x [1] so I think it should be fine to EOL 1.1.
>
> [1] http://apache.osuosl.org/hbase/stable/
>
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:40 PM, 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IIRC the problem is the stable pointer is still on 1.1.x? No? At least
> > 1.3.x is not stable yet, Andrew and Mikhail are working on it I believe.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>于2017年10月27日 周五00:06写道：
> >
> > > Hi Nick,
> > >
> > > What do you think of my suggestion?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Maybe we do a final release on it and then EOL the branch?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor product
> > > >> changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related. Once
> > > >> again,
> > > >> I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless
> > > someone
> > > >> speaks up.
> > > >>
> > > >> Same time next month,
> > > >> -n
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Heya folks,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks like
> > > >> nothing
> > > >> > pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for
> > another
> > > >> > month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you in
> > > early
> > > >> > October.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Kindly yours,
> > > >> > Nick
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
--
Best regards,
Andrew
Words like orphans lost among the crosstalk, meaning torn from truth's
decrepit hands
- A23, Crosstalk
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Posted by Zach York <zy...@gmail.com>.
The stable pointer is 1.2.x [1] so I think it should be fine to EOL 1.1.
[1] http://apache.osuosl.org/hbase/stable/
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 3:40 PM, 张铎(Duo Zhang) <pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> IIRC the problem is the stable pointer is still on 1.1.x? No? At least
> 1.3.x is not stable yet, Andrew and Mikhail are working on it I believe.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>于2017年10月27日 周五00:06写道：
>
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> > What do you think of my suggestion?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Maybe we do a final release on it and then EOL the branch?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor product
> > >> changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related. Once
> > >> again,
> > >> I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless
> > someone
> > >> speaks up.
> > >>
> > >> Same time next month,
> > >> -n
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Heya folks,
> > >> >
> > >> > There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks like
> > >> nothing
> > >> > pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for
> another
> > >> > month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you in
> > early
> > >> > October.
> > >> >
> > >> > Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
> > >> >
> > >> > Kindly yours,
> > >> > Nick
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Posted by "张铎 (Duo Zhang)" <pa...@gmail.com>.
IIRC the problem is the stable pointer is still on 1.1.x? No? At least
1.3.x is not stable yet, Andrew and Mikhail are working on it I believe.
Thanks.
Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>于2017年10月27日 周五00:06写道：
> Hi Nick,
>
> What do you think of my suggestion?
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Maybe we do a final release on it and then EOL the branch?
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor product
> >> changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related. Once
> >> again,
> >> I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless
> someone
> >> speaks up.
> >>
> >> Same time next month,
> >> -n
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Heya folks,
> >> >
> >> > There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks like
> >> nothing
> >> > pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for another
> >> > month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you in
> early
> >> > October.
> >> >
> >> > Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
> >> >
> >> > Kindly yours,
> >> > Nick
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Posted by Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>.
Hi Nick,
What do you think of my suggestion?
Mike
On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> Maybe we do a final release on it and then EOL the branch?
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor product
>> changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related. Once
>> again,
>> I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless someone
>> speaks up.
>>
>> Same time next month,
>> -n
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Heya folks,
>> >
>> > There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks like
>> nothing
>> > pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for another
>> > month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you in early
>> > October.
>> >
>> > Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
>> >
>> > Kindly yours,
>> > Nick
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Delaying 1.1.13 for another month
Posted by Mike Drob <md...@apache.org>.
Maybe we do a final release on it and then EOL the branch?
On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Our beloved branch-1.1 is still showing only the most minor product
> changes. Almost everything since 1.1.12 is build, test related. Once again,
> I'll let it continue on the back-burner for another month, unless someone
> speaks up.
>
> Same time next month,
> -n
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Nick Dimiduk <nd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Heya folks,
> >
> > There's slim commits to branch-1.1 over the last month. Looks like
> nothing
> > pressing by my eyes, so I'm going to let the branch simmer for another
> > month, let more changes accumulate. Will check back in with you in early
> > October.
> >
> > Reply here if you have strong feeling to the contrary.
> >
> > Kindly yours,
> > Nick
> >
>