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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by "Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org> on 2004/06/08 23:11:44 UTC

[Website] index.html and project/index.html

Hello devs,

I would like to change the index.html [1] of our site because it is 
nearly the same like [2].

Suggestion for [1]:
"Apache Lenya is an effort undergoing incubation at the Apache Software 
Foundation, sponsored by the ASF's Cocoon project. Incubation is 
required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates 
that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process 
have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF 
projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the 
completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the project 
has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.

Lenya was originally started by Michael Wechner in early 1999 to manage 
the content of the journal of pattern formation. Michael previously did 
basic research in physics by writing computer simulations on dendritic 
growth.

In early 2000 Michael co-founded Wyona, which continued to develop Lenya 
on the basis of the interactive newspaper edition of Neue Zürcher 
Zeitung. The name Lenya is a combination of the names of his two sons 
Levi and Vanya.

More information regarding the project can be found here [2]"

Suggestion for [2]:
"Apache Lenya is a Java-based Open-Source Content Management System. It 
is based on open standards such as XML and XSLT. One of its core 
components is Cocoon from the Apache Software Foundation.

Lenya supports inline WYSIWYG editors. Your site editors do not have to 
learn XML. This is possible thanks to the support of XML, XSLT and XML 
Schema on the client side. An adminstration interface allows advanced 
users to monitor the CMS, and perform configuration tasks.

You are very welcome to participate in the Lenya project. Thank you very 
much for your suggestions and contributions.
Lenya 1.2 dev Released (26 April 2004)

     * Download and Install"

I know that is not perfect either but I think it is better then we have now!

WDYT?

King regards
thorsten

[1] http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
[2] http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/project/index.html
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<thorsten>
  <name>Thorsten Scherler</name>
  <country>Spain</country>
  <@m...@mail>
 
<@c...@cocoon-WIKI>
  <http>http://www.target-x.de</http>
  <motto>
	"My task which I am trying to achieve is,
	by the power of the written word,
	[...] to make you see."
	*Joseph Conrad (1857-1924)*
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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by "Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org>.
Rolf Kulemann wrote:

> On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 01:07, Scherler, Thorsten wrote:
> 
>>[...]
>>
>>...that is why I am waiting so desperate for the release ;-).
> 
> 
> He I'm waiting for the release too AND for your doc updates :)
> 
> Please cast your vote on the uploaded 1.2 test release.
> 

I did but here once again:

+1

thorsten

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<thorsten>
  <name>Thorsten Scherler</name>
  <country>Spain</country>
  <@m...@mail>
 
<@c...@cocoon-WIKI>
  <http>http://www.target-x.de</http>
  <motto>
	"My task which I am trying to achieve is,
	by the power of the written word,
	[...] to make you see."
	*Joseph Conrad (1857-1924)*
  </motto>
</thorsten>



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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 01:07, Scherler, Thorsten wrote:
> [...]
> 
> ...that is why I am waiting so desperate for the release ;-).

He I'm waiting for the release too AND for your doc updates :)

Please cast your vote on the uploaded 1.2 test release.

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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by "Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:

[...]
> but I guess the we would have to do change the structure within
> 
> src/webapp/lenya/pubs/docs-new/content/xdocs/
> 

> right? And it's "code freeze" ...
> 
> Michi


Nupp, everything is done so far on my local dis!

...that is why I am waiting so desperate for the release ;-).

I want to check that in afterwards in src/documentation.

thorsten

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<thorsten>
  <name>Thorsten Scherler</name>
  <country>Spain</country>
  <@m...@mail>
 
<@c...@cocoon-WIKI>
  <http>http://www.target-x.de</http>
  <motto>
	"My task which I am trying to achieve is,
	by the power of the written word,
	[...] to make you see."
	*Joseph Conrad (1857-1924)*
  </motto>
</thorsten>



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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 00:05, Michael Wechner wrote:
> [...]
> And it's "code freeze" ...

Cast your vote on the uploaded test 1.2 release, update the incubator
status file, release 1.2 (after the incubator vote) and announce end of
code freeze :)

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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Scherler, Thorsten wrote:

> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So if we want to avoid it that no tab is highlighted that can be 
>>> easily done by moving the content of the project dir to toplevel and 
>>> rm that dir! 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think it would make sense to do that, or will there be other problems?
>>
>> Michi
>>
>>
> Short answer: *NO*.
>
> I think it would be the nicest solution! I cannot see anything against 
> that! I will do it tomorrow :).


but I guess the we would have to do change the structure within

src/webapp/lenya/pubs/docs-new/content/xdocs/

right? And it's "code freeze" ...

Michi

>
>
> King regards
> thorsten
>


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Michael Wechner
Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com              http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
michael.wechner@wyona.com                        michi@apache.org


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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by "Scherler, Thorsten" <th...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:

> Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> 
>>
>> So if we want to avoid it that no tab is highlighted that can be 
>> easily done by moving the content of the project dir to toplevel and 
>> rm that dir! 
> 
> 
> 
> I think it would make sense to do that, or will there be other problems?
> 
> Michi
> 
> 
Short answer: *NO*.

I think it would be the nicest solution! I cannot see anything against 
that! I will do it tomorrow :).

King regards
thorsten

-- 
<thorsten>
  <name>Thorsten Scherler</name>
  <country>Spain</country>
  <@m...@mail>
 
<@c...@cocoon-WIKI>
  <http>http://www.target-x.de</http>
  <motto>
	"My task which I am trying to achieve is,
	by the power of the written word,
	[...] to make you see."
	*Joseph Conrad (1857-1924)*
  </motto>
</thorsten>



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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Thorsten Scherler wrote:

>
> So if we want to avoid it that no tab is highlighted that can be 
> easily done by moving the content of the project dir to toplevel and 
> rm that dir! 


I think it would make sense to do that, or will there be other problems?

Michi


-- 
Michael Wechner
Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com              http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
michael.wechner@wyona.com                        michi@apache.org


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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
[...]

>>> I would like to change the index.html [1] of our site because it is 
>>> nearly the same like [2].
>>
> It's very strange that these are different pages now ...
> I once spent several hours to make the project tab the homepage,
> no idea why this has changed. It should be avoided that no tab
> is highlighted on the homepage. 


Hello Andreas,

...and I thought that it was by purpose!

I spend several hours to have it back again (no highlighting) ;-). LOL. 
-> No joke! Why that changed I dunno either but it is out there for 
quite a while now (even before I did the update).

So if we want to avoid it that no tab is highlighted that can be easily 
done by moving the content of the project dir to toplevel and rm that 
dir! ...or define the tab="project" within <site>. ...or...

+1 on that!

> This would also mean there's no
> need for different pages [1] and [2].
>
+ 1

...but still I would like to include a feature page.

thorsten

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Thorsten Scherler

Departamento de Desarrollo de Proyectos
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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:

> Scherler, Thorsten wrote:
> 
>> Hello devs,
>>
>> I would like to change the index.html [1] of our site because it is 
>> nearly the same like [2].

It's very strange that these are different pages now ...
I once spent several hours to make the project tab the homepage,
no idea why this has changed. It should be avoided that no tab
is highlighted on the homepage. This would also mean there's no
need for different pages [1] and [2].

-- Andreas


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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 08:31, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> 
> > Michael Wechner wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe it would be the easiest to just keep the project page and do a 
> >> redirect
> >> from the homepage to the project page.
> >
> >
> > -1
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=google+redirect+pagerank
> >
> >
> The other problem with the redirect is that the first menu would be gone 
> ;-) (see [1]).  I could move the dstuff from the project dir into top 
> level than it would look like [2] all the time without any redirects!
> 
> ...but like Michi stated the main feature would be really nice! We could 
> use the one from 
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaRelease1.2PR. :)
> 
> WDYT?


I think that would be good start.
A short release news item for the lates release should always be on the
very top of the page. Beneath we can use the contents of the above wiki.

My 2cents.

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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:

> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Maybe it would be the easiest to just keep the project page and do a 
>> redirect
>> from the homepage to the project page.
>
>
> -1
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=google+redirect+pagerank
>
>
The other problem with the redirect is that the first menu would be gone 
;-) (see [1]).  I could move the dstuff from the project dir into top 
level than it would look like [2] all the time without any redirects!

...but like Michi stated the main feature would be really nice! We could 
use the one from 
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=LenyaRelease1.2PR. :)

WDYT?

-- 
Thorsten Scherler

Departamento de Desarrollo de Proyectos
Sociedad Andaluza para el Desarrollo de la Sociedad de la Información S.A.U.



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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:

> Maybe it would be the easiest to just keep the project page and do a 
> redirect
> from the homepage to the project page.

-1

http://www.google.com/search?q=google+redirect+pagerank


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http://wyona.com                   http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya
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Re: [Website] index.html and project/index.html

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Scherler, Thorsten wrote:

> Hello devs,
>
> I would like to change the index.html [1] of our site because it is 
> nearly the same like [2].


this is indeed confusing and I don't remember exactly what the reason was
(maybe that project is a subtree).

Maybe it would be the easiest to just keep the project page and do a 
redirect
from the homepage to the project page.

I think the text as it stands is fine, whereas I remember that once somebody
contributed a different text, where all the major features (highlights) have
been listed.

Michi
 



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http://www.wyona.com              http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
michael.wechner@wyona.com                        michi@apache.org


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