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Future the flex SDK

Hello guys ,

I flex programmer and I love this technology , I have a company in Brazil
and all software are in flex 4.5 and have a very large demand for the next
projects be in flex , I believe we all developers fear the future with
technology but I do not want to migrate to another I love programming in
flex. I would like to hear from you about the future of technology and it is
so dependent on the flash player . That at any time can be discontinued for
browsers and if that ever happens we can no longer access our apps.



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RE: Future the flex SDK

Posted by Sugan Naicker <Su...@dev-x.co.za>.
Hi,

Well said!

Regards,

Sugan

-----Original Message-----
From: okrueger@edscha.com [mailto:OKrueger@edscha.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:13 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Future the flex SDK

>From my point of view there's no reason to turn away from Flex. I'll stick
with it as long as there's any kind of runtime environment available.
But I try to take care of my application design:
To make the backend more reusable and 'independent from Flex' I only use
'RESTful' services with simple API's instead of the AMF stuff.
And I always try to separate the model from the view.
Doing this I'm optimistic that a rather unlikely port to another UI
technology would be possible.

At the end it is up to us all to shape the future of Flex.
There will be hopefully enough guys including me that follow Alex call to
help him with FlexJS.
So, don't fear the future, be part of it;-)

Olaf



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Flex 14 SDK Video Playback issue

Posted by Jason Taylor <ja...@dedoose.com>.
This application shows video in 4.12.1, 4.13.0, but in 4.14.0, the video audio plays but no video image is present...  Seems like a pretty big breaking bug to me.

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<s:Application xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009" xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark">
    <s:VideoPlayer source="https://app.dedoose.com/HttpVideo/501b27a1-061e-492e-82ec-01a10ff7ece5/ResourceVideoData/d5eb09cf-9299-415a-bbe2-3de3ed9ea300.f4m" width="100%" height="100%" autoPlay="true"/>
</s:Application>

Re: Flex 14 SDK Video Playback issue

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
It may not be “broken”, it might just have more capabilities and a
different default.  Justin provided the following on a thread this past
August:

>And this has come up before on the list and here is the answer:
>http://help.adobe.com/en_US/OSMF/1.0/Dev/WSc6f922f643dd2e6d-5718733812f2be
>c460d-7fff.html

>Basically you need to OSMFSettings.enableStageVideo = false; and it will
>work - 

>Thanks,
>Justin

HTH,
-Alex


On 2/27/15, 4:05 PM, "Jason Taylor" <ja...@dedoose.com> wrote:

>Issue goes back to broken  OSMF library being shipped with the FlexSDK,
>the attached osmf.swc works correctly.  Why are we still shipping FlexSDK
>with a broken OSMF library?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jason Taylor
>Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:01 PM
>To: users@flex.apache.org
>Subject: Flex 14 SDK Video Playback issue
>
>This application shows video in 4.12.1, 4.13.0, but in 4.14.0, the video
>audio plays but no video image is present...  Seems like a pretty big
>breaking bug to me.
>
><?xml version="1.0"?>
><s:Application xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009"
>xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark">
>    <s:VideoPlayer
>source="https://app.dedoose.com/HttpVideo/501b27a1-061e-492e-82ec-01a10ff7
>ece5/ResourceVideoData/d5eb09cf-9299-415a-bbe2-3de3ed9ea300.f4m"
>width="100%" height="100%" autoPlay="true"/> </s:Application>


RE: Flex 14 SDK Video Playback issue

Posted by Jason Taylor <ja...@dedoose.com>.
Issue goes back to broken  OSMF library being shipped with the FlexSDK,  the attached osmf.swc works correctly.  Why are we still shipping FlexSDK with a broken OSMF library?  


-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Taylor 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:01 PM
To: users@flex.apache.org
Subject: Flex 14 SDK Video Playback issue

This application shows video in 4.12.1, 4.13.0, but in 4.14.0, the video audio plays but no video image is present...  Seems like a pretty big breaking bug to me.

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<s:Application xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009" xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark">
    <s:VideoPlayer source="https://app.dedoose.com/HttpVideo/501b27a1-061e-492e-82ec-01a10ff7ece5/ResourceVideoData/d5eb09cf-9299-415a-bbe2-3de3ed9ea300.f4m" width="100%" height="100%" autoPlay="true"/> </s:Application>

Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by eduardo12fox <ed...@gmail.com>.
I Am Also Believing That will change very FlexJs Our Lives ALSO HAVE FOR
Other Side Shumway project that will help

Sorry my English I am using Google translator



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Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by "okrueger@edscha.com" <OK...@edscha.com>.
>From my point of view there's no reason to turn away from Flex. I'll stick
with it as long as there's any kind of runtime environment available.
But I try to take care of my application design:
To make the backend more reusable and 'independent from Flex' I only use
'RESTful' services with simple API's instead of the AMF stuff.
And I always try to separate the model from the view.
Doing this I'm optimistic that a rather unlikely port to another UI
technology would be possible.

At the end it is up to us all to shape the future of Flex.
There will be hopefully enough guys including me that follow Alex call to
help him with FlexJS.
So, don't fear the future, be part of it;-)

Olaf



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Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by eduardo12fox <ed...@gmail.com>.
guys, I'm very happy and more excited after all the answers. Love heart in
FLEX program currently say, there is technology that can track the flex. I
believe that soon new news come out to cheer again all passionate about
Flex. I was very sad in recent years with all the flex of sites out of the
air, many tutorials disappearing I want to help promote a worthy back like a
phoenix reborn. Flex is fantastic !!!



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Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 2/25/15, 8:14 AM, "Gary Yang" <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I would say Flex has to split into 2 groups, Flash and JS, let's face it.

Well, there are definitely two code bases, the current SDK where Apache
Flex SDK 4.14.0 is the latest, and the FlexJS code base.

I wouldn’t say it is two groups.  I am working on both and others are too,
but I am trying to spend most of my time on FlexJS because I believe that
code base will also create better Flash-only apps someday in addition to
the ability to cross-compile to JS.

Back when Adobe ported the AS2 code to AS3, we had no idea what the
performance characteristics of the AS3 runtimes would be under load so we
pretty much did a straight port, and brought with us a lot of things that
AS2 required to get performance that I think burden all Flex apps, even
today.

So the FlexJS code base is a total rewrite with the AS3 VM in mind, so
that going forward it is easier for a volunteer-driven community to
contribute to, it produces smaller and faster applications, and gives you
the option of cross-compiling to JS.

For example, if you’ve only got a few hours in the evening, are you going
to try to patch the 13,000 line UIComponent, or patch or write some
100-line class?  I know I would choose the latter as you then know the
boundaries that your code change can affect.  And if it has some
unintended side-effect, you can simply offer it as an alternative because
these classes are not welded together like they are in the current SDK.

-Alex


>On Feb 25, 2015 10:13 AM, "Peter Ent" <pe...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> The FlexJS project/framework allows you to work with ActionScript and
>>use
>> MXML files while cross-compiling to JavaScript. This means you can write
>> in your favorite language (ActionScript), use familiar tools
>> (FlashBuilder, MXML), yet run in the browser (or mobile) without the
>>Flash
>> Player.
>>
>> All that said, FlexJS is just in getting started and is not quite ready
>> for production applications, but the more people that can try it and
>>help
>> build and shape it, the better off it will be.
>>
>> You can find out more by visiting the FlexJS Wiki page at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/FlexJS
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter Ent
>> Adobe Systems
>>
>> On 2/25/15, 6:23 AM, "eduardo12fox" <ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello guys ,
>> >
>> >I flex programmer and I love this technology , I have a company in
>>Brazil
>> >and all software are in flex 4.5 and have a very large demand for the
>>next
>> >projects be in flex , I believe we all developers fear the future with
>> >technology but I do not want to migrate to another I love programming
>>in
>> >flex. I would like to hear from you about the future of technology and
>>it
>> >is
>> >so dependent on the flash player . That at any time can be discontinued
>> >for
>> >browsers and if that ever happens we can no longer access our apps.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> 
>>>http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Future-the-flex-SDK-tp967
>>>2
>> .
>> >html
>> >Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>


Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by Gary Yang <fl...@gmail.com>.
I would say Flex has to split into 2 groups, Flash and JS, let's face it.
On Feb 25, 2015 10:13 AM, "Peter Ent" <pe...@adobe.com> wrote:

> The FlexJS project/framework allows you to work with ActionScript and use
> MXML files while cross-compiling to JavaScript. This means you can write
> in your favorite language (ActionScript), use familiar tools
> (FlashBuilder, MXML), yet run in the browser (or mobile) without the Flash
> Player.
>
> All that said, FlexJS is just in getting started and is not quite ready
> for production applications, but the more people that can try it and help
> build and shape it, the better off it will be.
>
> You can find out more by visiting the FlexJS Wiki page at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/FlexJS
>
> Regards,
> Peter Ent
> Adobe Systems
>
> On 2/25/15, 6:23 AM, "eduardo12fox" <ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hello guys ,
> >
> >I flex programmer and I love this technology , I have a company in Brazil
> >and all software are in flex 4.5 and have a very large demand for the next
> >projects be in flex , I believe we all developers fear the future with
> >technology but I do not want to migrate to another I love programming in
> >flex. I would like to hear from you about the future of technology and it
> >is
> >so dependent on the flash player . That at any time can be discontinued
> >for
> >browsers and if that ever happens we can no longer access our apps.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >View this message in context:
> >http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Future-the-flex-SDK-tp9672
> .
> >html
> >Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by "okrueger@edscha.com" <OK...@edscha.com>.
>How I can add me in this e-mail list to receive news? 
http://flex.apache.org/community-mailinglists.html



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Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by eduardo12fox <ed...@gmail.com>.
Angelo,

How I can add me in this e-mail list to receive news?



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Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by Angelo Anolin <an...@gmail.com>.
@Eduardo:
There was an email thread which Stephen started with the subject line "The
Player - The Case for an Independent Flash Player". If you've been
subscribed to this mailing list, you should have received that mail.

TLDR;
Stephen is advocating for a Flash Player independent of any business entity
so that it can be maintained by the community and would be the runtime to
allow Flex developers to continue working with the technology.

As I've mentioned in one of my emails:

*"The functionality offered by Flex out of the box is simply too good to be
left out for consideration in the realms of enterprise software
development."*



On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Peter Ent <pe...@adobe.com> wrote:

> The FlexJS project/framework allows you to work with ActionScript and use
> MXML files while cross-compiling to JavaScript. This means you can write
> in your favorite language (ActionScript), use familiar tools
> (FlashBuilder, MXML), yet run in the browser (or mobile) without the Flash
> Player.
>
> All that said, FlexJS is just in getting started and is not quite ready
> for production applications, but the more people that can try it and help
> build and shape it, the better off it will be.
>
> You can find out more by visiting the FlexJS Wiki page at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/FlexJS
>
> Regards,
> Peter Ent
> Adobe Systems
>
> On 2/25/15, 6:23 AM, "eduardo12fox" <ed...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hello guys ,
> >
> >I flex programmer and I love this technology , I have a company in Brazil
> >and all software are in flex 4.5 and have a very large demand for the next
> >projects be in flex , I believe we all developers fear the future with
> >technology but I do not want to migrate to another I love programming in
> >flex. I would like to hear from you about the future of technology and it
> >is
> >so dependent on the flash player . That at any time can be discontinued
> >for
> >browsers and if that ever happens we can no longer access our apps.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >View this message in context:
> >http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Future-the-flex-SDK-tp9672
> .
> >html
> >Sent from the Apache Flex Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

Re: Future the flex SDK

Posted by Peter Ent <pe...@adobe.com>.
The FlexJS project/framework allows you to work with ActionScript and use
MXML files while cross-compiling to JavaScript. This means you can write
in your favorite language (ActionScript), use familiar tools
(FlashBuilder, MXML), yet run in the browser (or mobile) without the Flash
Player.

All that said, FlexJS is just in getting started and is not quite ready
for production applications, but the more people that can try it and help
build and shape it, the better off it will be.

You can find out more by visiting the FlexJS Wiki page at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLEX/FlexJS

Regards,
Peter Ent
Adobe Systems

On 2/25/15, 6:23 AM, "eduardo12fox" <ed...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hello guys ,
>
>I flex programmer and I love this technology , I have a company in Brazil
>and all software are in flex 4.5 and have a very large demand for the next
>projects be in flex , I believe we all developers fear the future with
>technology but I do not want to migrate to another I love programming in
>flex. I would like to hear from you about the future of technology and it
>is
>so dependent on the flash player . That at any time can be discontinued
>for
>browsers and if that ever happens we can no longer access our apps.
>
>
>
>--
>View this message in context:
>http://apache-flex-users.2333346.n4.nabble.com/Future-the-flex-SDK-tp9672.
>html
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