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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2020/10/08 10:34:08 UTC
Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Hi,
Today Deepak answered on user ML https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles in main menu.
BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
Should we not order webapps by default?
For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be better.
What do you think?
Jacques
Re: Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi,
As you may have seen, I have continued the discussion on user ML: https://markmail.org/message/r65p22uinzabqppc
Also Michael questioned my commit in R18[1] since it's only an improvement, what do you think?
[1] https://s.apache.org/32w0t
Jacques
Le 08/10/2020 à 12:34, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Today Deepak answered on user ML https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles in main menu.
> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
>
> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
> Should we not order webapps by default?
>
> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be better.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jacques
>
Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi,
In dev ML, we discussed the change of "default ordering of webapps titles" in main menu: https://markmail.org/message/ftgfpwztflty7klb
I started the implementation with https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-12166. It's already used in trunk demo.
I now want to discuss that more openly in user ML because obviously we are all concerned.
One thing can't be achieved using the position webapp attribute: the position of webtools. Because it is secondary. I changed that too.
If you don't agree with these changes please let us know, why, and what you propose else. Beware: bikeshedding will not be accepted :)
Thanks
Jacques
Le 21/10/2020 à 07:11, Pritam Kute a écrit :
> Hello Jacques,
>
> The order of menus which you are suggesting looks good to me as well.
>
> Kind Regards,
> --
> Pritam Kute
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:52 PM James Yong <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> The order of the application list looks fine to me. Understand we can
>> still override the ordering if there is client requirement.
>>
>> Regard,
>> James
>>
>> On 2020/10/15 10:33:40 Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I propose this order (did my best but quickly, could have missed
>> things), applications 1st:
>>> 1. partymgr(because you need parties to do anything)
>>> 2. catalog (because you need products to do anything)
>>> 3. facility (because you need to store products to do anything)
>>> 4. order (because it's there that things begin to "move")
>>> 5. accounting (because it's there that things "end"; ar & ap should
>> disappear)
>>> 6. content (because you need to associate contents to make things
>> better)
>>> 7. manufacturing (because OFBiz is also an ERP)
>>> 8. sfa (because people are often looking for a CRM, BTW most them don't
>> know what SFA is)
>>> 9. workeffort (this one could be above, but it's not obvious for most
>> people)
>>> 10. humanres (more important than below IMO)
>>> 11. marketing (not sure about the place of this one)
>>> 12. webtools (maybe higher?)
>>>
>>> ------------- (plugins start below)
>>>
>>> 1. rest (could be named api soon)
>>> 2. projectmgr
>>> 3. webpos
>>> 4. bi
>>> 5. birt
>>> 6. myportal
>>> 7. assetmaint
>>> 8. ismgr
>>> 9. scrum
>>> 10. solr
>>> 11. ebay
>>> 12. firstdata
>>> 13. ------------- (those are special, maybe above?)
>>> 14. example
>>> 15. exampleext
>>>
>>> ------------- (those plugins don't show atm but exist, maybe need more
>> info from backend menu?)
>>> 1. ecommerce
>>> 2. ecomseo
>>> 3. multiflex
>>> 4. cmssite
>>> 5. ebaystore
>>> 6. ldap
>>> 7. lucene
>>> 8. passport
>>> 9. pricat
>>> 10. msggateway
>>>
>>> Please let me know your thoughts, TIA
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> Le 11/10/2020 à 10:12, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
>>>> Hi James,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to define an order for webapps in function of their OOTB
>> importance. If we agree we should discuss the OOTB order of importance of
>>>> applications webapps and then plugins.
>>>>
>>>> I think we can quickly agree, and hope it would not open a Pandora box
>> :)
>>>> Also the feature should be easily changed by custom projects. Maybe
>> documentation for that would be enough.
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> Le 11/10/2020 à 06:37, James Yong a écrit :
>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> What kind of ordering are you looking for the webapp menu items?
>>>>> Customer specific ordering?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2020/10/08 10:34:08, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today Deepak answered on user ML
>> https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles
>> in main menu.
>>>>>> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the
>> same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
>>>>>> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly
>> remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
>>>>>> Should we not order webapps by default?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway
>> visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
>>>>>> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be
>> better.
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
Re: Re: Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by Pritam Kute <pr...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
Hello Jacques,
The order of menus which you are suggesting looks good to me as well.
Kind Regards,
--
Pritam Kute
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:52 PM James Yong <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Jacques,
>
> The order of the application list looks fine to me. Understand we can
> still override the ordering if there is client requirement.
>
> Regard,
> James
>
> On 2020/10/15 10:33:40 Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I propose this order (did my best but quickly, could have missed
> things), applications 1st:
> >
> > 1. partymgr(because you need parties to do anything)
> > 2. catalog (because you need products to do anything)
> > 3. facility (because you need to store products to do anything)
> > 4. order (because it's there that things begin to "move")
> > 5. accounting (because it's there that things "end"; ar & ap should
> disappear)
> > 6. content (because you need to associate contents to make things
> better)
> > 7. manufacturing (because OFBiz is also an ERP)
> > 8. sfa (because people are often looking for a CRM, BTW most them don't
> know what SFA is)
> > 9. workeffort (this one could be above, but it's not obvious for most
> people)
> > 10. humanres (more important than below IMO)
> > 11. marketing (not sure about the place of this one)
> > 12. webtools (maybe higher?)
> >
> > ------------- (plugins start below)
> >
> > 1. rest (could be named api soon)
> > 2. projectmgr
> > 3. webpos
> > 4. bi
> > 5. birt
> > 6. myportal
> > 7. assetmaint
> > 8. ismgr
> > 9. scrum
> > 10. solr
> > 11. ebay
> > 12. firstdata
> > 13. ------------- (those are special, maybe above?)
> > 14. example
> > 15. exampleext
> >
> > ------------- (those plugins don't show atm but exist, maybe need more
> info from backend menu?)
> >
> > 1. ecommerce
> > 2. ecomseo
> > 3. multiflex
> > 4. cmssite
> > 5. ebaystore
> > 6. ldap
> > 7. lucene
> > 8. passport
> > 9. pricat
> > 10. msggateway
> >
> > Please let me know your thoughts, TIA
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > Le 11/10/2020 à 10:12, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > > Hi James,
> > >
> > > I'd like to define an order for webapps in function of their OOTB
> importance. If we agree we should discuss the OOTB order of importance of
> > > applications webapps and then plugins.
> > >
> > > I think we can quickly agree, and hope it would not open a Pandora box
> :)
> > >
> > > Also the feature should be easily changed by custom projects. Maybe
> documentation for that would be enough.
> > >
> > > Jacques
> > >
> > > Le 11/10/2020 à 06:37, James Yong a écrit :
> > >> Hi Jacques,
> > >>
> > >> What kind of ordering are you looking for the webapp menu items?
> > >> Customer specific ordering?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> James
> > >>
> > >> On 2020/10/08 10:34:08, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> Today Deepak answered on user ML
> https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles
> in main menu.
> > >>> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the
> same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
> > >>>
> > >>> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly
> remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
> > >>> Should we not order webapps by default?
> > >>>
> > >>> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway
> visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
> > >>> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be
> better.
> > >>>
> > >>> What do you think?
> > >>>
> > >>> Jacques
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
>
Re: Re: Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by James Yong <ja...@apache.org>.
Hi Jacques,
The order of the application list looks fine to me. Understand we can still override the ordering if there is client requirement.
Regard,
James
On 2020/10/15 10:33:40 Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I propose this order (did my best but quickly, could have missed things), applications 1st:
>
> 1. partymgr(because you need parties to do anything)
> 2. catalog (because you need products to do anything)
> 3. facility (because you need to store products to do anything)
> 4. order (because it's there that things begin to "move")
> 5. accounting (because it's there that things "end"; ar & ap should disappear)
> 6. content (because you need to associate contents to make things better)
> 7. manufacturing (because OFBiz is also an ERP)
> 8. sfa (because people are often looking for a CRM, BTW most them don't know what SFA is)
> 9. workeffort (this one could be above, but it's not obvious for most people)
> 10. humanres (more important than below IMO)
> 11. marketing (not sure about the place of this one)
> 12. webtools (maybe higher?)
>
> ------------- (plugins start below)
>
> 1. rest (could be named api soon)
> 2. projectmgr
> 3. webpos
> 4. bi
> 5. birt
> 6. myportal
> 7. assetmaint
> 8. ismgr
> 9. scrum
> 10. solr
> 11. ebay
> 12. firstdata
> 13. ------------- (those are special, maybe above?)
> 14. example
> 15. exampleext
>
> ------------- (those plugins don't show atm but exist, maybe need more info from backend menu?)
>
> 1. ecommerce
> 2. ecomseo
> 3. multiflex
> 4. cmssite
> 5. ebaystore
> 6. ldap
> 7. lucene
> 8. passport
> 9. pricat
> 10. msggateway
>
> Please let me know your thoughts, TIA
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 11/10/2020 à 10:12, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > Hi James,
> >
> > I'd like to define an order for webapps in function of their OOTB importance. If we agree we should discuss the OOTB order of importance of
> > applications webapps and then plugins.
> >
> > I think we can quickly agree, and hope it would not open a Pandora box :)
> >
> > Also the feature should be easily changed by custom projects. Maybe documentation for that would be enough.
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > Le 11/10/2020 à 06:37, James Yong a écrit :
> >> Hi Jacques,
> >>
> >> What kind of ordering are you looking for the webapp menu items?
> >> Customer specific ordering?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> James
> >>
> >> On 2020/10/08 10:34:08, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Today Deepak answered on user ML https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles in main menu.
> >>> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
> >>>
> >>> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
> >>> Should we not order webapps by default?
> >>>
> >>> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
> >>> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be better.
> >>>
> >>> What do you think?
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>>
>
Re: Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi,
I propose this order (did my best but quickly, could have missed things), applications 1st:
1. partymgr(because you need parties to do anything)
2. catalog (because you need products to do anything)
3. facility (because you need to store products to do anything)
4. order (because it's there that things begin to "move")
5. accounting (because it's there that things "end"; ar & ap should disappear)
6. content (because you need to associate contents to make things better)
7. manufacturing (because OFBiz is also an ERP)
8. sfa (because people are often looking for a CRM, BTW most them don't know what SFA is)
9. workeffort (this one could be above, but it's not obvious for most people)
10. humanres (more important than below IMO)
11. marketing (not sure about the place of this one)
12. webtools (maybe higher?)
------------- (plugins start below)
1. rest (could be named api soon)
2. projectmgr
3. webpos
4. bi
5. birt
6. myportal
7. assetmaint
8. ismgr
9. scrum
10. solr
11. ebay
12. firstdata
13. ------------- (those are special, maybe above?)
14. example
15. exampleext
------------- (those plugins don't show atm but exist, maybe need more info from backend menu?)
1. ecommerce
2. ecomseo
3. multiflex
4. cmssite
5. ebaystore
6. ldap
7. lucene
8. passport
9. pricat
10. msggateway
Please let me know your thoughts, TIA
Jacques
Le 11/10/2020 à 10:12, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> Hi James,
>
> I'd like to define an order for webapps in function of their OOTB importance. If we agree we should discuss the OOTB order of importance of
> applications webapps and then plugins.
>
> I think we can quickly agree, and hope it would not open a Pandora box :)
>
> Also the feature should be easily changed by custom projects. Maybe documentation for that would be enough.
>
> Jacques
>
> Le 11/10/2020 à 06:37, James Yong a écrit :
>> Hi Jacques,
>>
>> What kind of ordering are you looking for the webapp menu items?
>> Customer specific ordering?
>>
>> Regards,
>> James
>>
>> On 2020/10/08 10:34:08, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Today Deepak answered on user ML https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles in main menu.
>>> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
>>>
>>> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
>>> Should we not order webapps by default?
>>>
>>> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
>>> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be better.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>>
Re: Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi James,
I'd like to define an order for webapps in function of their OOTB importance. If we agree we should discuss the OOTB order of importance of
applications webapps and then plugins.
I think we can quickly agree, and hope it would not open a Pandora box :)
Also the feature should be easily changed by custom projects. Maybe documentation for that would be enough.
Jacques
Le 11/10/2020 à 06:37, James Yong a écrit :
> Hi Jacques,
>
> What kind of ordering are you looking for the webapp menu items?
> Customer specific ordering?
>
> Regards,
> James
>
> On 2020/10/08 10:34:08, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Today Deepak answered on user ML https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles in main menu.
>> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
>>
>> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
>> Should we not order webapps by default?
>>
>> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
>> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be better.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>>
Re: Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by James Yong <ja...@apache.org>.
Hi Jacques,
What kind of ordering are you looking for the webapp menu items?
Customer specific ordering?
Regards,
James
On 2020/10/08 10:34:08, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today Deepak answered on user ML https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles in main menu.
> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the same in birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
>
> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly remember the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
> Should we not order webapps by default?
>
> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway visible at the top in the main bar for the default theme.
> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be better.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jacques
>
>
Re: Default ordering of webapps titles in main menu
Posted by Pritam Kute <pr...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
+1 for the idea to have more important apps in 1st place.
Kind Regards,
--
Pritam Kute
On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:04 PM Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Today Deepak answered on user ML
> https://markmail.org/message/syzvyyueheejyyce how to order webapps titles
> in main menu.
> BTW OOTB it would work for <webapp name="order" only if you do the same in
> birt where there is a 2nd <webapp name="order" ;)
>
> I think we already discussed that in the past but I don't clearly remember
> the result and I'd like to be sure about that.
> Should we not order webapps by default?
>
> For instance I don't like much to have firstdatapaymentgateway visible at
> the top in the main bar for the default theme.
> And globally having more important apps in 1st places would be better.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jacques
>
>