Nightly builds

[Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>]

Hi there,

Andrew Arnott posted that he is interested in nightly builds of log4net. Therefore I am hereby raising a poll to see if also the
community is interested. Please post back with your opinion by placing a cross and optionally a small comment. Just like this:

-- DUMMY --
[ ] Yes
[X] No, no need

Yes, cool. We could finally get our hands on builds with our latest bug fixes and test them!
-- DUMMY --

Let us know what you think about this idea!

Cheers,
D.

Re: Nightly builds

[Ryan Boggs <rm...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

For what it's worth, we switched NAnt from a manual nightly build to
using a process with teamcity (teamcity.codebetter.com).  It's been
working pretty well for us since it automatically builds a new nightly
package whenever any new commits come in during that day.  There are
some steps needed outside of teamcity's perview (such as linking your
repo to the build and moving the resulting packages to the appropriate
location after the build is done) but they are trivial depending on
your comfort level.

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Ryan

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Oh I see. Well yes, it might be difficult then and as we are low on
>>log4net human power, we better use our efforts on other areas.
>
> +1
>
> Now that we are talking about superhuman power. Stefan, are you still out there somewhere? ;-)
>
>>Cheers + thanks for the update!
>
> You're welcome.
>

Re: Nightly builds

[Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>]

On 2013-03-06, Dominik Psenner wrote:

> Now that we are talking about superhuman power. Stefan, are you still
> out there somewhere? ;-)

The honest answer probably is "barely".  I keep hoping to find time to
get more involved again.

As for nightly builds.  I don't think you want to build the full zoo of
assemblies, the .NET 4.0 one likely is enough for now.  Apart from
running NAnt on a supported build machine anywhere - it should be
possible to get it installed, but I don't think I can help right now -
running msbuild on the "not-supported" VS2010 solution may be an option
as well.

Stefan

RE: Nightly builds

[Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>]

>Oh I see. Well yes, it might be difficult then and as we are low on
>log4net human power, we better use our efforts on other areas.

+1

Now that we are talking about superhuman power. Stefan, are you still out there somewhere? ;-)

>Cheers + thanks for the update!

You're welcome.

Re: Nightly builds

[Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

(sorry for topposting).

Oh I see. Well yes, it might be difficult then and as we are low on
log4net human power, we better use our efforts on other areas.

I was just looking if drone.io does support .net builds, but it
doesn't seem like that. Maybe there is another provider who can create
nightlies from public directories.

Cheers + thanks for the update!
Christian

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Christian,
>
> [moving this to log4net-dev only]
>
> According to Stefan we cannot use Gump for nightly builds but should rather set up jenkins. Therefore I read through [1] and it
> seems that there's at least one major issue with Jenkins: the jenkins slaves do not include an installation of nant. This requires
> us to move to ant (unfeasible) or discuss with the jenkins admins to set up nant.
>
> I am not an expert on neither jenkins nore nant and there are probably a lot more culprits ahead. Therefore I believe that nightlies
> come with quite a lot of work and maybe that work is not worth the effort if there's not much interest in the community anyway.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins?action=show&redirect=Hudson
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobmeier@gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:08 PM
>>To: Log4NET Dev
>>Cc: Log4NET User
>>Subject: Re: Nightly builds
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
>>we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
>>because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.
>>
>>Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
>>opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.
>>
>>My 2 cents -
>>
>>Cheers
>>Christian
>>
>>On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But unfortunately that
>>did not help and only a few people
>>> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are interested in nightly
>>builds, there does not seem to be
>>> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> D.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>http://www.grobmeier.de
>>https://www.timeandbill.de
>



--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de

RE: Nightly builds

[Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>]

Hey Christian,

[moving this to log4net-dev only]

According to Stefan we cannot use Gump for nightly builds but should rather set up jenkins. Therefore I read through [1] and it
seems that there's at least one major issue with Jenkins: the jenkins slaves do not include an installation of nant. This requires
us to move to ant (unfeasible) or discuss with the jenkins admins to set up nant.

I am not an expert on neither jenkins nore nant and there are probably a lot more culprits ahead. Therefore I believe that nightlies
come with quite a lot of work and maybe that work is not worth the effort if there's not much interest in the community anyway.

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins?action=show&redirect=Hudson

Cheers,
D.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Christian Grobmeier [mailto:grobmeier@gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:08 PM
>To: Log4NET Dev
>Cc: Log4NET User
>Subject: Re: Nightly builds
>
>Hi,
>
>is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
>we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
>because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.
>
>Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
>opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.
>
>My 2 cents -
>
>Cheers
>Christian
>
>On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But unfortunately that
>did not help and only a few people
>> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are interested in nightly
>builds, there does not seem to be
>> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> D.
>>
>
>
>
>--
>http://www.grobmeier.de
>https://www.timeandbill.de

Re: Nightly builds

[Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.

Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.

My 2 cents -

Cheers
Christian

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But unfortunately that did not help and only a few people
> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are interested in nightly builds, there does not seem to be
> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>



--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de

Re: Nightly builds

[Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.

Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.

My 2 cents -

Cheers
Christian

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But unfortunately that did not help and only a few people
> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are interested in nightly builds, there does not seem to be
> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>



--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de

Re: Nightly builds

[Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>]

Hi,

is it a big problem to enable nightlies? I mean, if it is not, why do
we hesitate?  Maybe the build attract a few more people to contribute,
because they can use their changes pretty much in an instant.

Personally I like nightly builds. I am not a .net user, so I have no
opinion in this specific case, but in general I like them.

My 2 cents -

Cheers
Christian

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But unfortunately that did not help and only a few people
> participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are interested in nightly builds, there does not seem to be
> enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
>
> Cheers,
> D.
>



--
http://www.grobmeier.de
https://www.timeandbill.de

RE: Nightly builds

[Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>]

Hi there,

the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But unfortunately that did not help and only a few people
participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are interested in nightly builds, there does not seem to be
enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
 
Cheers,
D.

RE: Nightly builds

[Richard Pennenga <rp...@angel-med.com>]

-- rich --
[ ] Yes
[X] No, no need

Unnecessary for my needs.  Glad you asked though!
-- rich --


Richard J. Pennenga
Software Developer
 
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www.angel-med.com            
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsenner@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:18 AM
To: 'Log4NET User'; 'Log4NET Dev'
Subject: RE: Nightly builds

Argh, I forgot to say when the poll ends, sorry. You have 7 days starting from: NOW! :-) This means that the poll ends on the 5th of
March at 12:00 UTC.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsenner@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:12 AM
>To: 'Log4NET User'; 'Log4NET Dev'
>Subject: Nightly builds
>
>Hi there,
>
>Andrew Arnott posted that he is interested in nightly builds of log4net. Therefore I am hereby
>raising a poll to see if also the
>community is interested. Please post back with your opinion by placing a cross and optionally a
>small comment. Just like this:
>
>-- DUMMY --
>[ ] Yes
>[X] No, no need
>
>Yes, cool. We could finally get our hands on builds with our latest bug fixes and test them!
>-- DUMMY --
>
>Let us know what you think about this idea!
>
>Cheers,
>D.

RE: Nightly builds

[Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>]

Hi there,

the poll ended some hour ago and I wanted to give it a little more time. But unfortunately that did not help and only a few people
participated. Even though 2 ouf of 4 people who shared their opinion are interested in nightly builds, there does not seem to be
enough interest in the community to pursue this idea.
 
Cheers,
D.

Re: Nightly builds

[Justin Dearing <zi...@gmail.com>]

-- Justin --
[X] Yes
[] No, no need

-- Justin --


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Argh, I forgot to say when the poll ends, sorry. You have 7 days starting
> from: NOW! :-) This means that the poll ends on the 5th of
> March at 12:00 UTC.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsenner@gmail.com]
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:12 AM
> >To: 'Log4NET User'; 'Log4NET Dev'
> >Subject: Nightly builds
> >
> >Hi there,
> >
> >Andrew Arnott posted that he is interested in nightly builds of log4net.
> Therefore I am hereby
> >raising a poll to see if also the
> >community is interested. Please post back with your opinion by placing a
> cross and optionally a
> >small comment. Just like this:
> >
> >-- DUMMY --
> >[ ] Yes
> >[X] No, no need
> >
> >Yes, cool. We could finally get our hands on builds with our latest bug
> fixes and test them!
> >-- DUMMY --
> >
> >Let us know what you think about this idea!
> >
> >Cheers,
> >D.
>
>
>

RE: Nightly builds

[Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>]

Argh, I forgot to say when the poll ends, sorry. You have 7 days starting from: NOW! :-) This means that the poll ends on the 5th of
March at 12:00 UTC.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsenner@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:12 AM
>To: 'Log4NET User'; 'Log4NET Dev'
>Subject: Nightly builds
>
>Hi there,
>
>Andrew Arnott posted that he is interested in nightly builds of log4net. Therefore I am hereby
>raising a poll to see if also the
>community is interested. Please post back with your opinion by placing a cross and optionally a
>small comment. Just like this:
>
>-- DUMMY --
>[ ] Yes
>[X] No, no need
>
>Yes, cool. We could finally get our hands on builds with our latest bug fixes and test them!
>-- DUMMY --
>
>Let us know what you think about this idea!
>
>Cheers,
>D.

RE: Nightly builds

[Dominik Psenner <dp...@gmail.com>]

Argh, I forgot to say when the poll ends, sorry. You have 7 days starting from: NOW! :-) This means that the poll ends on the 5th of
March at 12:00 UTC.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dominik Psenner [mailto:dpsenner@gmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:12 AM
>To: 'Log4NET User'; 'Log4NET Dev'
>Subject: Nightly builds
>
>Hi there,
>
>Andrew Arnott posted that he is interested in nightly builds of log4net. Therefore I am hereby
>raising a poll to see if also the
>community is interested. Please post back with your opinion by placing a cross and optionally a
>small comment. Just like this:
>
>-- DUMMY --
>[ ] Yes
>[X] No, no need
>
>Yes, cool. We could finally get our hands on builds with our latest bug fixes and test them!
>-- DUMMY --
>
>Let us know what you think about this idea!
>
>Cheers,
>D.

RE: Nightly builds

[Bill Sorensen <bs...@idtdna.com>]

[ ] Yes
[X] No, no need