Jini.org

[Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

I noticed Jini.org has been down, is Jim still around?  This site is 
filled with invaluable information.

Regards,

Peter.

Re: Jini.org

[Jeff Ramsdale <je...@gmail.com>]

Sad to see it go, though I always hoped it would get a little more love...

I thought I had a (quite old) backup of the MySQL db but I can't find
it. It may have been on my recently stolen laptop... I do have the
original jini.org (the Collabnet, pre-MediaWiki, site) spidered as
html. I also have a number of videos from the last Jini Community
Meeting that Jerome Bernard shot. I don't know if it's the full set,
but Jerome might have backups if I'm missing any. It looks like
presentation pdfs may be in the Wayback Machine (along with other
content, I'm sure), so with these videos we should be able to
reconstruct most of the content. Truth be told the wiki for Jini.org
was mostly community meeting schedules and presentation files and the
specifications (painfully) reworked in wiki format.

-jeff

Re: Jini.org

[Sim IJskes - QCG <si...@qcg.nl>]

On 08/26/2010 05:53 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
> Sorry.
>
> We were hosted by dreamhost. I'll check with them and find out.
>
> -Jim

Do you have a full site backup?

Gr. Sim

Re: Jini.org

[Sim IJskes - QCG <si...@qcg.nl>]

On 09/04/2010 05:54 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> It is great that jini.org will live another year on community effort
> and dollars, but isn't this something that Apache infrastructure can
> really help with?? It shouldn't be needed to have this come out of
> community member pockets.

Some background here, because there was no external backup, we had no 
other choice than to pay the bill here to gain access to the data.

Gr. Sim

Re: Jini.org

[Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>]

Sim IJskes - QCG wrote:
> On 09/04/2010 05:54 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> It is great that jini.org will live another year on community effort
>> and dollars, but isn't this something that Apache infrastructure can
>> really help with?? It shouldn't be needed to have this come out of
>> community member pockets.
>> Infrastructure team is typically very flexible with stuff that
>> projects want to set up, so "just ask" is a good initial approach, and
>> to do so, list down what is needed.
> 
> How about the copyrights of the material of the site? Contact legal 
> affairs?

There are at least three intellectual property issues, content 
copyright, use of "jini", and the "jini.org" domain name registration.

I strongly agree with the rapid action to preserve the site for a year, 
but now that we have a year, I think we should try to get Infrastructure 
and Legal Affairs to take over ensuring its permanence. Ideally, the 
jini.org domain name registration should be transfered to the ASF.

Patricia

Re: Jini.org

[Sim IJskes - QCG <si...@qcg.nl>]

On 09/04/2010 05:54 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> It is great that jini.org will live another year on community effort
> and dollars, but isn't this something that Apache infrastructure can
> really help with?? It shouldn't be needed to have this come out of
> community member pockets.
> Infrastructure team is typically very flexible with stuff that
> projects want to set up, so "just ask" is a good initial approach, and
> to do so, list down what is needed.

How about the copyrights of the material of the site? Contact legal affairs?

Gr. Sim

Re: Jini.org

[Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>]

It is great that jini.org will live another year on community effort
and dollars, but isn't this something that Apache infrastructure can
really help with?? It shouldn't be needed to have this come out of
community member pockets.
Infrastructure team is typically very flexible with stuff that
projects want to set up, so "just ask" is a good initial approach, and
to do so, list down what is needed.

Cheers
Niclas

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> wrote:
> Hi Peter-
>
> I've connected Sim Ijskes with Dreamhost and his company is going
> to pay for the year of hosting (thanks Sim!).  The content is still there,
> so hopefully the site will be back up soon.
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>
>> What's happening Jim?  Who should I contact at dreamhost?
>>
>> Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> I can be the contact if you want, how does dreamhost usually accept
>>> payment?
>>>
>>> I like the sound of Zoltan's generous offer, if we're able to salvage the
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>>
>>> Jim Hurley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The site hosting costs $240/year.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Kúti Zsolt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
>>>>> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Got this back from dreamhost:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if the account
>>>>>> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and get it up
>>>>>> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
>>>>>> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be deleted
>>>>>> including any backups we may have."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks -Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> How much fund is needed to run this service?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am willing to contribute.
>>>>>
>>>>> Zsolt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java

I  live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er
I  work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc
I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug

Re: Jini.org

[Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

Sim IJskes - QCG wrote:
> On 03-09-10 14:32, Jim Hurley wrote:
>> Hi Peter-
>>
>> I've connected Sim Ijskes with Dreamhost and his company is going
>> to pay for the year of hosting (thanks Sim!). The content is still 
>> there,
>> so hopefully the site will be back up soon.
>>
>> -Jim
>
> The account is just settled, we should be online soon.
>
> Gr. Sim
>
Definitely a big thanks to Sim.

Peter.

Re: Jini.org

[Sim IJskes - QCG <si...@qcg.nl>]

On 03-09-10 14:32, Jim Hurley wrote:
> Hi Peter-
>
> I've connected Sim Ijskes with Dreamhost and his company is going
> to pay for the year of hosting (thanks Sim!). The content is still there,
> so hopefully the site will be back up soon.
>
> -Jim

The account is just settled, we should be online soon.

Gr. Sim

-- 
QCG, Software voor het MKB, 071-5890970, http://www.qcg.nl
Quality Consultancy Group b.v., Leiderdorp, Kvk Den Haag: 28088397

Re: Jini.org

[Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>]

Hi Peter-

I've connected Sim Ijskes with Dreamhost and his company is going
to pay for the year of hosting (thanks Sim!).  The content is still  
there,
so hopefully the site will be back up soon.

-Jim


On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
> What's happening Jim?  Who should I contact at dreamhost?
>
> Peter Firmstone wrote:
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> I can be the contact if you want, how does dreamhost usually accept  
>> payment?
>>
>> I like the sound of Zoltan's generous offer, if we're able to  
>> salvage the site.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>> Jim Hurley wrote:
>>> The site hosting costs $240/year.
>>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Kúti Zsolt wrote:
>>>> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
>>>> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
>>>>
>>>>> Got this back from dreamhost:
>>>>>
>>>>> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if the  
>>>>> account
>>>>> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and get  
>>>>> it up
>>>>> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
>>>>> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be deleted
>>>>> including any backups we may have."
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks -Jim
>>>>
>>>> How much fund is needed to run this service?
>>>>
>>>> I am willing to contribute.
>>>>
>>>> Zsolt
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Jini.org

[Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

What's happening Jim?  Who should I contact at dreamhost?

Peter Firmstone wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> I can be the contact if you want, how does dreamhost usually accept 
> payment?
>
> I like the sound of Zoltan's generous offer, if we're able to salvage 
> the site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter.
>
> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> The site hosting costs $240/year.
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Kúti Zsolt wrote:
>>> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
>>> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
>>>
>>>> Got this back from dreamhost:
>>>>
>>>> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if the account
>>>> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and get it up
>>>> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
>>>> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be deleted
>>>> including any backups we may have."
>>>>
>>>> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
>>>>
>>>> thanks -Jim
>>>
>>> How much fund is needed to run this service?
>>>
>>> I am willing to contribute.
>>>
>>> Zsolt
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Jini.org

[Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

Hi Jim,

I can be the contact if you want, how does dreamhost usually accept payment?

I like the sound of Zoltan's generous offer, if we're able to salvage 
the site.

Regards,

Peter.

Jim Hurley wrote:
> The site hosting costs $240/year.
>
> On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Kúti Zsolt wrote:
>> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
>> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
>>
>>> Got this back from dreamhost:
>>>
>>> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if the account
>>> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and get it up
>>> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
>>> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be deleted
>>> including any backups we may have."
>>>
>>> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
>>>
>>> thanks -Jim
>>
>> How much fund is needed to run this service?
>>
>> I am willing to contribute.
>>
>> Zsolt
>
>

Re: Jini.org

[Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>]

The site hosting costs $240/year.

On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Kúti Zsolt wrote:
> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
>
>> Got this back from dreamhost:
>>
>> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if the account
>> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and get it up
>> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
>> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be deleted
>> including any backups we may have."
>>
>> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
>>
>> thanks -Jim
>
> How much fund is needed to run this service?
>
> I am willing to contribute.
>
> Zsolt

Re: Jini.org

[Sam Chance <sg...@gmail.com>]

Can we contribute via PayPal? If no, how can we donate?

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi Zoltan-
>
> Great to hear from you - hope you're doing well.
>
> I think hosting somewhere else is a great idea.   Since
> we don't have a full backup of the site -- we'd probably
> need to host for one more year at dreamhost to get a
> copy of all the contents and buy time for porting to a
> new site.
>
> thanks -Jim
>
>
>
> On Aug 27, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Z Juhasz wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim, Guys,
>>
>> Since I had so much fun for years thanks to Jini and its great community
>> and
>> received a lot of HW from Sun to further Jini research and applications, I
>> cannot help not offering the following:
>>
>> Besides doing the normal academic duties, I'm also responsible for our
>> department's IT infrastructure, so I do not see any problem of offering
>> free
>> hosting for Jini.org on one of our servers in order to keep alive the Jini
>> knowledgebase and help its community.
>>
>> This needs approval from our HoD but I don't think that would be a
>> problem.
>> If you think this is could be a solution for the problem, please let me
>> know
>> what is required for the system to be transferred. Also, the domain will
>> have to be sorted out.
>>
>> Please let me know how it sounds.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Zoltan
>>
>> =================================
>> Dr Zoltan Juhasz
>> Dept of Electrical Engineering and Information Systems
>> Pannon University (formerly University of Veszprem)
>> Veszprem, Hungary
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kúti Zsolt [mailto:kuti.zsolt@prolan.hu]
>>> Sent: 27 August 2010 15:41
>>> To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Jini.org
>>>
>>> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
>>> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
>>>
>>> Got this back from dreamhost:
>>>>
>>>> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if
>>>>
>>> the account
>>>
>>>> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and
>>>>
>>> get it up
>>>
>>>> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
>>>> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be
>>>>
>>> deleted including
>>>
>>>> any backups we may have."
>>>>
>>>> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
>>>>
>>>> thanks -Jim
>>>>
>>>
>>> How much fund is needed to run this service?
>>>
>>> I am willing to contribute.
>>>
>>> Zsolt
>>>
>>> _____________ NOD32 5400 (20100826) Informci _____________
>>>
>>> Az zenetet a NOD32 antivirus system megvizsglta.
>>> http://www.nod32.hu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Jini.org

[Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>]

Hi Zoltan-

Great to hear from you - hope you're doing well.

I think hosting somewhere else is a great idea.   Since
we don't have a full backup of the site -- we'd probably
need to host for one more year at dreamhost to get a
copy of all the contents and buy time for porting to a
new site.

thanks -Jim


On Aug 27, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Z Juhasz wrote:
> Hi Jim, Guys,
>
> Since I had so much fun for years thanks to Jini and its great  
> community and
> received a lot of HW from Sun to further Jini research and  
> applications, I
> cannot help not offering the following:
>
> Besides doing the normal academic duties, I'm also responsible for our
> department's IT infrastructure, so I do not see any problem of  
> offering free
> hosting for Jini.org on one of our servers in order to keep alive  
> the Jini
> knowledgebase and help its community.
>
> This needs approval from our HoD but I don't think that would be a  
> problem.
> If you think this is could be a solution for the problem, please let  
> me know
> what is required for the system to be transferred. Also, the domain  
> will
> have to be sorted out.
>
> Please let me know how it sounds.
>
> Cheers
> Zoltan
>
> =================================
> Dr Zoltan Juhasz
> Dept of Electrical Engineering and Information Systems
> Pannon University (formerly University of Veszprem)
> Veszprem, Hungary
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kúti Zsolt [mailto:kuti.zsolt@prolan.hu]
>> Sent: 27 August 2010 15:41
>> To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Jini.org
>>
>> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
>> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
>>
>>> Got this back from dreamhost:
>>>
>>> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if
>> the account
>>> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and
>> get it up
>>> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
>>> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be
>> deleted including
>>> any backups we may have."
>>>
>>> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
>>>
>>> thanks -Jim
>>
>> How much fund is needed to run this service?
>>
>> I am willing to contribute.
>>
>> Zsolt
>>
>> _____________ NOD32 5400 (20100826) Informci _____________
>>
>> Az zenetet a NOD32 antivirus system megvizsglta.
>> http://www.nod32.hu
>>
>>
>

RE: Jini.org

[Z Juhasz <z6...@gmail.com>]

Hi Jim, Guys,

Since I had so much fun for years thanks to Jini and its great community and
received a lot of HW from Sun to further Jini research and applications, I
cannot help not offering the following:

Besides doing the normal academic duties, I'm also responsible for our
department's IT infrastructure, so I do not see any problem of offering free
hosting for Jini.org on one of our servers in order to keep alive the Jini
knowledgebase and help its community. 

This needs approval from our HoD but I don't think that would be a problem.
If you think this is could be a solution for the problem, please let me know
what is required for the system to be transferred. Also, the domain will
have to be sorted out. 

Please let me know how it sounds.

Cheers
Zoltan

=================================
Dr Zoltan Juhasz
Dept of Electrical Engineering and Information Systems
Pannon University (formerly University of Veszprem)
Veszprem, Hungary

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kúti Zsolt [mailto:kuti.zsolt@prolan.hu] 
> Sent: 27 August 2010 15:41
> To: river-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Jini.org
> 
> Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
> Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:
> 
> > Got this back from dreamhost:
> > 
> > "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if 
> the account 
> > was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and 
> get it up 
> > and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script 
> > runs (which it could at any time) everything will be 
> deleted including 
> > any backups we may have."
> > 
> > Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
> > 
> > thanks -Jim
> 
> How much fund is needed to run this service?
> 
> I am willing to contribute.
> 
> Zsolt
> 
>  _____________ NOD32 5400 (20100826) Informci _____________
> 
> Az zenetet a NOD32 antivirus system megvizsglta.
> http://www.nod32.hu
> 
> 

Re: Jini.org

[Kúti Zsolt <ku...@prolan.hu>]

Fri, 27 Aug 2010 09:33:33 -0400 -n
Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com> írta:

> Got this back from dreamhost:
> 
> "It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if the account
> was settled our system should be able to reactivate it and get it up
> and running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script
> runs (which it could at any time) everything will be deleted
> including any backups we may have."
> 
> Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?
> 
> thanks -Jim

How much fund is needed to run this service?

I am willing to contribute.

Zsolt

Re: Jini.org

[Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>]

Got this back from dreamhost:

"It looks like the files have not been deleted yet so if the account was
settled our system should be able to reactivate it and get it up and
running as it was before. But if the automatic clean-up script runs
(which it could at any time) everything will be deleted including any
backups we may have."

Peter - do you want me to switch you over to be the contact?

thanks -Jim


On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Jim Hurley wrote:

> We were hosted by dreamhost.  I'll check with them and find out.
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>> Oops, you didn't get my email?  I was prepared to make up the  
>> shortfall.  Can we still renew the contract?
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>> Jim Hurley wrote:
>>> Hi Peter-
>>>
>>> Yes, I'm still around :-)
>>>
>>> Last year I asked for help in funding Jini.org (one person  
>>> contributed $25,
>>> but I ended up essentially having to fund it myself for the  
>>> year).   I asked a
>>> couple times, but no one stepped up and contributed. Since there  
>>> didn't
>>> look like there was real interest in funding the site, our  
>>> contract with the
>>> provider unfortunately expired in early August.
>>>
>>> -Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>>> I noticed Jini.org has been down, is Jim still around?  This site  
>>>> is filled with invaluable information.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Peter.
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Jini.org

[Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>]

Sorry.

We were hosted by dreamhost.  I'll check with them and find out.

-Jim


On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:36 PM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
> Oops, you didn't get my email?  I was prepared to make up the  
> shortfall.  Can we still renew the contract?
>
> Peter.
>
> Jim Hurley wrote:
>> Hi Peter-
>>
>> Yes, I'm still around :-)
>>
>> Last year I asked for help in funding Jini.org (one person  
>> contributed $25,
>> but I ended up essentially having to fund it myself for the  
>> year).   I asked a
>> couple times, but no one stepped up and contributed. Since there  
>> didn't
>> look like there was real interest in funding the site, our contract  
>> with the
>> provider unfortunately expired in early August.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>>
>> On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>> I noticed Jini.org has been down, is Jim still around?  This site  
>>> is filled with invaluable information.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Peter.
>>
>>
>

Re: Jini.org

[Peter Firmstone <ji...@zeus.net.au>]

Oops, you didn't get my email?  I was prepared to make up the 
shortfall.  Can we still renew the contract?

Peter.

Jim Hurley wrote:
> Hi Peter-
>
> Yes, I'm still around :-)
>
> Last year I asked for help in funding Jini.org (one person contributed 
> $25,
> but I ended up essentially having to fund it myself for the year).   I 
> asked a
> couple times, but no one stepped up and contributed. Since there didn't
> look like there was real interest in funding the site, our contract 
> with the
> provider unfortunately expired in early August.
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>> I noticed Jini.org has been down, is Jim still around?  This site is 
>> filled with invaluable information.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter.
>
>

Re: Jini.org

[md...@martinwills.com]

I have an account on dreamhost if you want to put it there?

--Martin Wills--


> Hi Peter-
>
> Yes, I'm still around :-)
>
> Last year I asked for help in funding Jini.org (one person contributed
> $25,
> but I ended up essentially having to fund it myself for the year).   I
> asked a
> couple times, but no one stepped up and contributed. Since there didn't
> look like there was real interest in funding the site, our contract
> with the
> provider unfortunately expired in early August.
>
> -Jim
>
>
> On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>> I noticed Jini.org has been down, is Jim still around?  This site is
>> filled with invaluable information.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter.
>
>

Re: Jini.org

[Jim Hurley <ji...@mac.com>]

Hi Peter-

Yes, I'm still around :-)

Last year I asked for help in funding Jini.org (one person contributed  
$25,
but I ended up essentially having to fund it myself for the year).   I  
asked a
couple times, but no one stepped up and contributed. Since there didn't
look like there was real interest in funding the site, our contract  
with the
provider unfortunately expired in early August.

-Jim


On Aug 22, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
> I noticed Jini.org has been down, is Jim still around?  This site is  
> filled with invaluable information.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter.