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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> on 2012/08/24 19:43:20 UTC

[Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Hello All;

   I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release 
Notes at: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template. 
All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to 
generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging 
through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.

Regards
Keith


Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Keith N. McKenna
> <ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hello All;
>>
>>    I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes
>> at:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template.
>
>
> I like it.  It did not apply in 3.4.1 since it was a maintenance
> release, but in general we would also want a section for "New
> Features", maybe immediately before the Enhancements/Improvements.
>
    Thanks or the input. I will add that now. My goal is to get a 
standard look and look and feel. I sections are not needed fo a 
particular release than the boiler plate "None at this time" can be used 
or the section can be deleted or that release.

Keith

>> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
>> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
>> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>>
>
> If you can figure out how CWiki does templates I'm sure we would find
> plenty of other areas where this would be useful as well.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rob
>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>



Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Keith N. McKenna
<ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello All;
>
>   I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes
> at:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template.


I like it.  It did not apply in 3.4.1 since it was a maintenance
release, but in general we would also want a section for "New
Features", maybe immediately before the Enhancements/Improvements.

> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>

If you can figure out how CWiki does templates I'm sure we would find
plenty of other areas where this would be useful as well.

Thanks!

-Rob

> Regards
> Keith
>

Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:

> Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Keith N. McKenna <
>> keith.mckenna@comcast.net
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>  Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
>>>> keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Hello All;
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release
>>>>> Notes
>>>>> at: https://cwiki.apache.org/******confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**<https://cwiki.apache.org/****confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**>
>>>>> **<https://cwiki.apache.org/****confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**<https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**>
>>>>> **>
>>>>> Release+Notes+Template<https:/****/cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/**<http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/**>
>>>>> display/OOOUSERS/Release+****Notes+Template<https://cwiki.**
>>>>> apache.org/confluence/display/**OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+**Template<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>  .
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
>>>>> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
>>>>> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Looks good to me. I think using a template like this will be good for
>>>>>
>>>> organization.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Thanks Kay, that was one of the ideas that prompted me to do this. I
>>>>
>>> noted that you said in an earlier thread that converting the notes from
>>> the
>>> wiki to HTML took some futzing. Are we using the HTML export add-on
>>> that is available or Conluence or are you doing it by hand?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>> I use the html export but it puts it some styling that we don't use on the
>> web site and it needs to be removed. I'll need to see how it looks if we
>> just left this in. And then, maybe no futzing needed. Or, maybe I'm doing
>> something wrong. :/ I'll do this again at some point.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  I had noticed the html export when I was rooting through the
> documentation and wasn't sure i it was installed on our instance of
> Confluence. Figured that it couldn't hurt to ask. My background is in
> manufacturing engineering and I am a very large fan of making sure that
> there are more efficient ways of accomplishing redundant  and potentially
> error prone tasks.
>

well, it's a curious thing. I DO the html export but for some reason
although the file IS an html file, it makes into ".doc". I need to check
some of what I told you about this by the way.  At any rate, the html
export is there.


>
> Your knowledge of web design and support shows in the quality of your
> work. On the other hand what I know of the subject and HTML in general
> would it on the head of a pin and have room left for thousands of angels.
> :oD.
>

Thank you, but I'm not sure  I deserve the extent of this complement.  I
had little to do with the COMPLETE design of www.openoffice.org. I do know
a LOT about  bare bones html though. CSS, maybe not so much, but enough to
get by  most of the time. :)



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices:
    take it or leave it. "
                                   -- Buddy Hackett

Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Keith N. McKenna <keith.mckenna@comcast.net
>> wrote:
>
>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
>>> keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hello All;
>>>>
>>>>     I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release
>>>> Notes
>>>> at: https://cwiki.apache.org/****confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**<https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**>
>>>> Release+Notes+Template<https:/**/cwiki.apache.org/confluence/**
>>>> display/OOOUSERS/Release+**Notes+Template<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template>
>>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
>>>> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
>>>> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Looks good to me. I think using a template like this will be good for
>>> organization.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Thanks Kay, that was one of the ideas that prompted me to do this. I
>> noted that you said in an earlier thread that converting the notes from the
>> wiki to HTML took some futzing. Are we using the HTML export add-on
>> that is available or Conluence or are you doing it by hand?
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>
> I use the html export but it puts it some styling that we don't use on the
> web site and it needs to be removed. I'll need to see how it looks if we
> just left this in. And then, maybe no futzing needed. Or, maybe I'm doing
> something wrong. :/ I'll do this again at some point.
>
>
>
>
I had noticed the html export when I was rooting through the 
documentation and wasn't sure i it was installed on our instance of 
Confluence. Figured that it couldn't hurt to ask. My background is in 
manufacturing engineering and I am a very large fan of making sure that 
there are more efficient ways of accomplishing redundant  and 
potentially error prone tasks.

Your knowledge of web design and support shows in the quality of your 
work. On the other hand what I know of the subject and HTML in general 
would it on the head of a pin and have room left for thousands of 
angels. :oD.



Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Keith N. McKenna <keith.mckenna@comcast.net
> wrote:

> Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
>> keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello All;
>>>
>>>    I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release
>>> Notes
>>> at: https://cwiki.apache.org/****confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**<https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**>
>>> Release+Notes+Template<https:/**/cwiki.apache.org/confluence/**
>>> display/OOOUSERS/Release+**Notes+Template<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template>
>>> >.
>>>
>>> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
>>> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
>>> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>  Looks good to me. I think using a template like this will be good for
>> organization.
>>
>>
>>  Thanks Kay, that was one of the ideas that prompted me to do this. I
> noted that you said in an earlier thread that converting the notes from the
> wiki to HTML took some futzing. Are we using the HTML export add-on
> that is available or Conluence or are you doing it by hand?
>
> Regards
> Keith
>

I use the html export but it puts it some styling that we don't use on the
web site and it needs to be removed. I'll need to see how it looks if we
just left this in. And then, maybe no futzing needed. Or, maybe I'm doing
something wrong. :/ I'll do this again at some point.




-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices:
    take it or leave it. "
                                   -- Buddy Hackett

Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
> keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello All;
>>
>>    I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes
>> at: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>> Release+Notes+Template<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template>.
>> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
>> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
>> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
> Looks good to me. I think using a template like this will be good for
> organization.
>
>
Thanks Kay, that was one of the ideas that prompted me to do this. I 
noted that you said in an earlier thread that converting the notes from 
the wiki to HTML took some futzing. Are we using the HTML export add-on
that is available or Conluence or are you doing it by hand?

Regards
Keith


Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hello All;
>
>   I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release Notes
> at: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
> Release+Notes+Template<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template>.
> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
Looks good to me. I think using a template like this will be good for
organization.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"As a child my family's menu consisted of two choices:
    take it or leave it. "
                                   -- Buddy Hackett

Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Hello All;
>
>    I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release
> Notes at:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template.
> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
Since I have seen no negative feedback on this, I will start adding this 
material to the existing 3.5 and 4.0 release notes.

Keith


Re: [Realease Notes] Proposed template for creation o Release Notes

Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Hello All;
>
>    I have a proposed draft of a template for use in creating Release
> Notes at:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release+Notes+Template.
> All comments and changes are welcome. I believe that there is a way to
> generate actual templates for the Confluence wiki and I will be digging
> through the documentation for it to try and figure out how to do so.
>
> Regards
> Keit
>
>
After rooting through the the Confluence documentation pages, it appears 
that admin privileges are need to create a true template. There are two 
types of templates Space Templates and Global Templates. For space 
templates you need space admin privileges, or global templates you need 
Confluence administrator privileges.

I have neither of the above privileges, therefore if the decision is to 
use the template than someone with those privileges would need to copy 
it into the template editor.

Regards
Keith