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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org> on 2011/11/09 03:20:28 UTC

Crystal and Oxygen images (was Re: GPL'd dictionaries)

Hello guys;

Ahem...

I am afraid the external_images directory only contains
copylefted content. I thought those corresponded to
KDE themes, but they look very specific to
OpenOffice.org. Is this also a big problem as it
seems?

Pedro.


Re: Crystal and Oxygen images (was Re: GPL'd dictionaries)

Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
--- On Wed, 11/9/11, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
> > No, we can just leave them out. I don't think that
> many users will miss
> > them.
> >
> >
> As KDE user I'll miss them...
> 

I am a KDE user too.

If this has content generated by the OOo community
perhaps we can contribute this upstream?

regards,

Pedro.

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by FR web forum <oo...@free.fr>.

----- Mail original -----
De: "Pedro Giffuni" <pf...@apache.org>
>I removed the Oxygen themes icons, these apparently
>came from Go-OO and were GPLd.

>Crystal theme icons are LGPLd and will be removed also.

FYI, maybe continue with Galaxy:
http://ui.openoffice.org/nonav/VisualDesign/OOo_galaxy.html

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2011/11/12 RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>

>
>
> 2011/11/12 Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>
>
>> Hi;
>>
>> Yes it's very difficult, but it's one of those things
>> where people with different (non-programming) skills
>> can make a huge contribution.
>>
>> Pedro.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 11/12/11, FR web forum <oo...@free.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > ----- Mail original -----
>> > >This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new
>> > set
>> > >of icons. I looked around and there is a set of icons
>> > >under different licenses here, that may serve as a
>> > >starting point:
>> > Very difficult to create this set.
>> >
>> > Maybe having the same system than Firefox skin:
>> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=18829
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2011/11/12 Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>

> Hi;
>
> Yes it's very difficult, but it's one of those things
> where people with different (non-programming) skills
> can make a huge contribution.
>
> Pedro.
>
> --- On Sat, 11/12/11, FR web forum <oo...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > >This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new
> > set
> > >of icons. I looked around and there is a set of icons
> > >under different licenses here, that may serve as a
> > >starting point:
> > Very difficult to create this set.
> >
> > Maybe having the same system than Firefox skin:
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=18829
> >
>

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
Hello Ricardo;

--- On Sat, 11/12/11, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> The problem here is not to create the icon but to package
> them in a way
> AOOo can use: If you look inside the compressed file there
> are thousands of
> images and the naming convention is not easy to understand.
> Someone will need to explain how to build that icon set.

Yes I noticed that, and that's one of the reasons I left for
now the crystal theme. The commit that removed the Oxygen
theme (actually a revert where some files had moved) also
teaches where to put a new iconset, something that was not
clear for me.

> On a side question... freedesktop defined a standard way to
> name icons: if AOOo change to that standard (yes, I know,
> it's not easy, but I'm speculating...) maybe everything
> will be more easy. Maybe it could be
> possible to use the icons provided by the desktop
> environment. This way
> AOOo will only need ONE fall-back theme to use when
> something is missing.

Would that be tango? I think we use them already. For all
I know, the tango files are labelled GPL but I think that
refers to the software used to create them and not to the
files themselves, which I understand are Public Domain.

I think we may have to remove other icons but I haven't
looked at all into the base icons yet and I am crossing
fingers that some of them will be covered by the SGA.

Pedro.

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2011/11/12 Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>

> Hi;
>
> Yes it's very difficult, but it's one of those things
> where people with different (non-programming) skills
> can make a huge contribution.
>
> Pedro.
>
> --- On Sat, 11/12/11, FR web forum <oo...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > ----- Mail original -----
> > >This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new
> > set
> > >of icons. I looked around and there is a set of icons
> > >under different licenses here, that may serve as a
> > >starting point:
> > Very difficult to create this set.
> >
> > Maybe having the same system than Firefox skin:
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=18829
> >
>
Sorry for the two previous (and empty) emails... rekonq made me a joke, it
seems.

The problem here is not to create the icon but to package them in a way
AOOo can use: If you look inside the compressed file there are thousands of
images and the naming convention is not easy to understand. Someone will
need to explain how to build that icon set.
On a side question... freedesktop defined a standard way to name icons: if
AOOo change to that standard (yes, I know, it's not easy, but I'm
speculating...) maybe everything will be more easy. Maybe it could be
possible to use the icons provided by the desktop environment. This way
AOOo will only need ONE fall-back theme to use when something is missing.
Just my 2 crazy ยข.

Cheers
Ricardo

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
Hi;

Yes it's very difficult, but it's one of those things
where people with different (non-programming) skills
can make a huge contribution.

Pedro. 

--- On Sat, 11/12/11, FR web forum <oo...@free.fr> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> ----- Mail original -----
> >This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new
> set
> >of icons. I looked around and there is a set of icons
> >under different licenses here, that may serve as a
> >starting point:
> Very difficult to create this set.
> 
> Maybe having the same system than Firefox skin:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=18829
> 

Re: Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by FR web forum <oo...@free.fr>.
Hello,

----- Mail original -----
>This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new set
>of icons. I looked around and there is a set of icons
>under different licenses here, that may serve as a
>starting point:
Very difficult to create this set.

Maybe having the same system than Firefox skin:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=18829

Artists wanted (was Re: Crystal and Oxygen images)

Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
Hi again;

I removed the Oxygen themes icons, these apparently
came from Go-OO and were GPLd.

Crystal theme icons are LGPLd and will be removed also.

This may be an interesting opportunity to get a new set
of icons. I looked around and there is a set of icons
under different licenses here, that may serve as a
starting point:

http://openiconlibrary.sourceforge.net/

But of course it would be great if a professional
artist takes over a project of this nature!

best regards,

Pedro.

Re: Crystal and Oxygen images (was Re: GPL'd dictionaries)

Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2011/11/9 Mathias Bauer <Ma...@gmx.net>

> On 09.11.2011 03:20, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>
>> Hello guys;
>>
>> Ahem...
>>
>> I am afraid the external_images directory only contains
>> copylefted content. I thought those corresponded to
>> KDE themes, but they look very specific to
>> OpenOffice.org. Is this also a big problem as it
>> seems?
>>
>> Pedro.
>>
>>
> No, we can just leave them out. I don't think that many users will miss
> them.
>
>
As KDE user I'll miss them...

Re: Crystal and Oxygen images (was Re: GPL'd dictionaries)

Posted by Mathias Bauer <Ma...@gmx.net>.
On 09.11.2011 03:20, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Hello guys;
>
> Ahem...
>
> I am afraid the external_images directory only contains
> copylefted content. I thought those corresponded to
> KDE themes, but they look very specific to
> OpenOffice.org. Is this also a big problem as it
> seems?
>
> Pedro.
>

No, we can just leave them out. I don't think that many users will miss 
them.

Regards,
Mathias