logger / console.log redux

[Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>]

We talked a while back about this. I'm wondering if ppl feel its important
to having logging capability as a default installed thing. Also, we
probably would want this available to the CLI workflow somehow.

I know I find logging helpful for development!

Thoughts?

Re: logger / console.log redux

[Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>]

One of the suggestions in the past that I liked was to add console as a
<dependancy> to the default app template, so (at least for the cli) it gets
automatically installed but can be manually removed.

Whatever we do, I would not like to see it added directly to the platform,
as that would make it hard to remove.


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Dick Van den Brink <
d_vandenbrink@outlook.com> wrote:

> I'm not really sure.
> On Android console.logs are visible in logcat without the logger plugin.
> iOS has remote debugging where the console.log are also visible in console.
>
> It might be nice for Windows Phone though
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:21:03 +1100
> > Subject: logger / console.log redux
> > From: b@brian.io
> > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >
> > We talked a while back about this. I'm wondering if ppl feel its
> important
> > to having logging capability as a default installed thing. Also, we
> > probably would want this available to the CLI workflow somehow.
> >
> > I know I find logging helpful for development!
> >
> > Thoughts?
>

RE: logger / console.log redux

[Dick Van den Brink <d_...@outlook.com>]

I'm not really sure. 
On Android console.logs are visible in logcat without the logger plugin.
iOS has remote debugging where the console.log are also visible in console.

It might be nice for Windows Phone though


> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 19:21:03 +1100
> Subject: logger / console.log redux
> From: b@brian.io
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> 
> We talked a while back about this. I'm wondering if ppl feel its important
> to having logging capability as a default installed thing. Also, we
> probably would want this available to the CLI workflow somehow.
> 
> I know I find logging helpful for development!
> 
> Thoughts? 		 	   		  

Re: logger / console.log redux

[Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>]

Just to be clear: there are costs involved with using the console plugin.
 Aside from performance, which is likely negligible, it misreports line
numbers since the call to the actual native console.log comes from within
the plugin's wrapper.  If you are using safari remote inspector to debug
anyway, where the console plugin doesn't buy you anything, this is just a
terrible price to pay.

If the vast majority of ios developers are doing dev for ios 5 or debugging
exclusively using console.log and never need remote inspector, then maybe I
would see the importance of this here.

Perhaps if the plugin was re-written to not clobber by default, or detect
when inspector is attached somehow and disable itself automatically, I
would be more impressed with seeing this added by default always.  As it
stands, please don't do this in a way that isn't trivial to disable.

-Michal


On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Wargo, John <jo...@sap.com> wrote:

> I was surprised to see it pulled out into a plugin and I constantly forget
> to add it when I'm testing applications. +1 to it being default in the
> container. It's default in browser after all.
>
> John M. Wargo
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian.leroux@gmail.com [mailto:brian.leroux@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian LeRoux
> Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:21 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: logger / console.log redux
>
> We talked a while back about this. I'm wondering if ppl feel its important
> to having logging capability as a default installed thing. Also, we
> probably would want this available to the CLI workflow somehow.
>
> I know I find logging helpful for development!
>
> Thoughts?
>

RE: logger / console.log redux

["Wargo, John" <jo...@sap.com>]

I was surprised to see it pulled out into a plugin and I constantly forget to add it when I'm testing applications. +1 to it being default in the container. It's default in browser after all.

John M. Wargo


-----Original Message-----
From: brian.leroux@gmail.com [mailto:brian.leroux@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Brian LeRoux
Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:21 AM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: logger / console.log redux

We talked a while back about this. I'm wondering if ppl feel its important
to having logging capability as a default installed thing. Also, we
probably would want this available to the CLI workflow somehow.

I know I find logging helpful for development!

Thoughts?