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Derived product licensing question

Hello all,

Section (4) of the Subversion license mentions asking info@collab.net for permission before using a hosted product name in the name of a derived product. Presumably "Subversion" is a "hosted product name".

I sent such an e-mail a few weeks ago (Jan 22), and haven't heard from anyone. Does anyone know who the gatekeeper of Subversion licensing is, and how I might contact them directly?

Thanks,
David

Re: Derived product licensing question

Posted by kf...@collab.net.
"David Rauschenbach" <da...@goodserver.com> writes:
> Thanks Karl. Collab.Net's position is reasonable, and is what I was
> expecting. However, in order to comply with the Subversion license, I
> was required by section (4) to hear it in your own words. :-)

You're welcome.  Note that CollabNet's position is (as far as I'm
aware) also the community's position here.  That is, we discussed this
publicly on the dev@ list a long time ago, and there was wide
consensus on the resulting policy.

Best,
-Karl

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> David
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <kf...@collab.net>
> To: "David Rauschenbach" <da...@goodserver.com>
> Cc: <us...@subversion.tigris.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Derived product licensing question
> 
> 
> > "David Rauschenbach" <da...@goodserver.com> writes:
> >> Section (4) of the Subversion license mentions asking
> >> info@collab.net for permission before using a hosted product name in
> >> the name of a derived product. Presumably "Subversion" is a "hosted
> >> product name".
> >>
> >> I sent such an e-mail a few weeks ago (Jan 22), and haven't heard
> >> from anyone. Does anyone know who the gatekeeper of Subversion
> >> licensing is, and how I might contact them directly?
> >
> > Sorry for the delay, David.
> >
> > Our policy is that it's okay to use the name "Subversion" as an
> > accurate descriptor.  That is, if you're distributing or running an
> > unmodified Subversion as received from the Subversion Project, and as
> > long as you don't do anything to misrepresent the origins of
> > Subversion (e.g., imply that your organization wrote Subversion, or
> > contributed something to Subversion that you didn't actually
> > contribute, that sort of thing), then you can call it "Subversion".
> >
> > But if what you're running is modified from what we distribute, then
> > please always add qualifiers, e.g. "Goodserver Subversion", and be
> > clear to your customers (in some publicly visible way) that what
> > they're getting from GoodServer is not exactly the same as what the
> > Subversion project itself distributes.
> >
> > The main purpose of these guidelines is to prevent identity confusion
> > and to protect the project's reputation.
> >
> > I hope this helps,
> > -Karl
> >
> > -- 
> > www.collab.net  <>  CollabNet  |  Distributed Development On Demand
> >
> 

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Re: Derived product licensing question

Posted by David Rauschenbach <da...@goodserver.com>.
Thanks Karl. Collab.Net's position is reasonable, and is what I was 
expecting. However, in order to comply with the Subversion license, I was 
required by section (4) to hear it in your own words. :-)

David
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kf...@collab.net>
To: "David Rauschenbach" <da...@goodserver.com>
Cc: <us...@subversion.tigris.org>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: Re: Derived product licensing question


> "David Rauschenbach" <da...@goodserver.com> writes:
>> Section (4) of the Subversion license mentions asking
>> info@collab.net for permission before using a hosted product name in
>> the name of a derived product. Presumably "Subversion" is a "hosted
>> product name".
>>
>> I sent such an e-mail a few weeks ago (Jan 22), and haven't heard
>> from anyone. Does anyone know who the gatekeeper of Subversion
>> licensing is, and how I might contact them directly?
>
> Sorry for the delay, David.
>
> Our policy is that it's okay to use the name "Subversion" as an
> accurate descriptor.  That is, if you're distributing or running an
> unmodified Subversion as received from the Subversion Project, and as
> long as you don't do anything to misrepresent the origins of
> Subversion (e.g., imply that your organization wrote Subversion, or
> contributed something to Subversion that you didn't actually
> contribute, that sort of thing), then you can call it "Subversion".
>
> But if what you're running is modified from what we distribute, then
> please always add qualifiers, e.g. "Goodserver Subversion", and be
> clear to your customers (in some publicly visible way) that what
> they're getting from GoodServer is not exactly the same as what the
> Subversion project itself distributes.
>
> The main purpose of these guidelines is to prevent identity confusion
> and to protect the project's reputation.
>
> I hope this helps,
> -Karl
>
> -- 
> www.collab.net  <>  CollabNet  |  Distributed Development On Demand
> 


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Re: Derived product licensing question

Posted by kf...@collab.net.
"David Rauschenbach" <da...@goodserver.com> writes:
> Section (4) of the Subversion license mentions asking
> info@collab.net for permission before using a hosted product name in
> the name of a derived product. Presumably "Subversion" is a "hosted
> product name".
> 
> I sent such an e-mail a few weeks ago (Jan 22), and haven't heard
> from anyone. Does anyone know who the gatekeeper of Subversion
> licensing is, and how I might contact them directly?

Sorry for the delay, David.

Our policy is that it's okay to use the name "Subversion" as an
accurate descriptor.  That is, if you're distributing or running an
unmodified Subversion as received from the Subversion Project, and as
long as you don't do anything to misrepresent the origins of
Subversion (e.g., imply that your organization wrote Subversion, or
contributed something to Subversion that you didn't actually
contribute, that sort of thing), then you can call it "Subversion".

But if what you're running is modified from what we distribute, then
please always add qualifiers, e.g. "Goodserver Subversion", and be
clear to your customers (in some publicly visible way) that what
they're getting from GoodServer is not exactly the same as what the
Subversion project itself distributes.

The main purpose of these guidelines is to prevent identity confusion
and to protect the project's reputation.

I hope this helps,
-Karl

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