[GSOC] Please review Application

[Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>]

Hi there,

For the Co-Admins:
 *  I need your Id's to add it to the  Application

For the "last Admins":
 * Do we have some stats about how many students pass last year etc ?



I prepared this for GSOC. Please review and add comments.

Organization Name:

The Apache Software Foundation


Description:

The Apache Software Foundation provides organizational, legal, and financial
support for a broad range of open source software projects. The Foundation
provides an established framework for intellectual property and financial
contributions that simultaneously limits contributors potential legal
exposure. Through a collaborative and meritocratic development process,
Apache projects deliver enterprise-grade, freely available software products
that attract large communities of users. The pragmatic Apache License makes
it easy for all users, commercial and individual, to deploy Apache products.


Home page:

www.apache.org


Main License:

ASL2


Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2011? What do you
hope to gain by participating?

The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate
in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
"real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
career.


If accepted, would this be your first year participating in GSoC?

No


Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.

The ASF participate in many GSoCs yet. We had many success within the last
years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers) or
even part of the PMC.  So the GSoC helped us (and our projects) to grew and
to build a better community around various projects.


If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
6 students passed in 2006.

.... (To be added)


What is the URL for your ideas page?

http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks


What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses
more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so
students know which to use.

No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at http://www.apache.org/and
http://incubator.apache.org/


What is the main IRC channel for your organization?

No central irc channel. Channels are managed by the specific project (if the
project has a channel at all)


Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.

No


What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors
for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.

The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize
community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive
"committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.

As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins.


What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?

We will try to filter on them in the select process and do our best to
"detect" this as soon as possible. Beside this each project/mentor will keep
an eye on this


What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?

Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
co-mentors for the selected projects.


What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
project's community before, during and after the program?

We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist
them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them
motivated.


If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and
why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:

Simal:
 - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
 - http://simal.googlecode.com

Saros:
 - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
 - http://www.saros-project.org/

Backup Admin (Link ID):

Uli ... ( More to be added)




Thanks,
Norman

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Noirin Shirley <no...@apache.org>]

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
> 6 students passed in 2006.

2010: 39/44

N

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> For the Co-Admins:
>  *  I need your Id's to add it to the  Application
>
<snip/>

Its my initials: ra

-Rahul


> For the "last Admins":
>  * Do we have some stats about how many students pass last year etc ?
>
>
>
> I prepared this for GSOC. Please review and add comments.
>
> Organization Name:
>
> The Apache Software Foundation
>
>
> Description:
>
> The Apache Software Foundation provides organizational, legal, and financial
> support for a broad range of open source software projects. The Foundation
> provides an established framework for intellectual property and financial
> contributions that simultaneously limits contributors potential legal
> exposure. Through a collaborative and meritocratic development process,
> Apache projects deliver enterprise-grade, freely available software products
> that attract large communities of users. The pragmatic Apache License makes
> it easy for all users, commercial and individual, to deploy Apache products.
>
>
> Home page:
>
> www.apache.org
>
>
> Main License:
>
> ASL2
>
>
> Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2011? What do you
> hope to gain by participating?
>
> The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
> Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate
> in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
> "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
> career.
>
>
> If accepted, would this be your first year participating in GSoC?
>
> No
>
>
> Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
> your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.
>
> The ASF participate in many GSoCs yet. We had many success within the last
> years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers) or
> even part of the PMC.  So the GSoC helped us (and our projects) to grew and
> to build a better community around various projects.
>
>
> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
> 6 students passed in 2006.
>
> .... (To be added)
>
>
> What is the URL for your ideas page?
>
> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>
>
> What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
> question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
> about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses
> more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so
> students know which to use.
>
> No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at http://www.apache.org/and
> http://incubator.apache.org/
>
>
> What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
>
> No central irc channel. Channels are managed by the specific project (if the
> project has a channel at all)
>
>
> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>
> No
>
>
> What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors
> for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.
>
> The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize
> community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive
> "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
> propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.
>
> As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins.
>
>
> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?
>
> We will try to filter on them in the select process and do our best to
> "detect" this as soon as possible. Beside this each project/mentor will keep
> an eye on this
>
>
> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?
>
> Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
> would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
> co-mentors for the selected projects.
>
>
> What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
> project's community before, during and after the program?
>
> We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist
> them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them
> motivated.
>
>
> If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
> applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and
> why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:
>
> Simal:
>  - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
>  - http://simal.googlecode.com
>
> Saros:
>  - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
>  - http://www.saros-project.org/
>
> Backup Admin (Link ID):
>
> Uli ... ( More to be added)
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Norman
>

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>]

Here's the Saros text:

Saros provides a way for distributed developers to work together in real-time over the Internet and
includes additional features supporting "distributed party programming", a looser type of
collaboration. Saros is considered useful for virtual communities (as typically found in open source
projects) in a number of distinct development scenarios, including: pair programming, code
reviewing, coaching and side-by-side programming.

Uli

On 07.03.2011 15:54, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 07/03/2011 10:50, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> 
>>> The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
>>> Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate
>>> in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
>>> "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
>>> career.
>>
>> I wouldn't put emphasis on the career part. I think Googles motivation is to advocate open source,
>> the application should reflect this.
> 
> This isn't about Googles motivation, it's about ours. It wouldn't jurt to mention raising awareness
> of our work though.
> 
>>> Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
>>> your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.
>>>
>>> The ASF participate in many GSoCs yet.
> 
> All GSoCs to date
> 
> 
>> We had many success within the last
>>> years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers) or
>>> even part of the PMC.  So the GSoC helped us (and our projects) to grew and
>>> to build a better community around various projects.
> 
> a few are even members
> 
>>> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
>>> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
>>> 6 students passed in 2006.
>>>
>>> .... (To be added)
> 
> This has to be checked in the admin system, for some reason I can't get to that data (won't let me
> log in) Noirin, Luciano can you see it?
> 
>>> What is the URL for your ideas page?
>>>
>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> 
> That link says "The selected filter with id '12315354' does not exist.
> 
> If you think this message is wrong, please consult your administrators about getting the necessary
> permissions. "
> 
> I'm logged in with my JIRA user
> 
>>> What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
>>> question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
>>> about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses
>>> more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so
>>> students know which to use.
>>>
>>> No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at http://www.apache.org/and
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/
> 
> Students may approach the GSOC Admins via dev@community.apache.org
> 
>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>
>>> No
> 
> Probably expand here (if the form allows) with something like:
> 
> Each one of our 100+ projects defines their own requirements for individual students. We require
> that students have already engaged with the project community and thus contact details are known.
> For administrative purposes we use the standard form provided by Melange.
> 
>>> What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors
>>> for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.
>>>
>>> The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize
>>> community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive
>>> "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
>>> propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.
> 
> I'd add something like:
> 
> "We expect our mentors to work with our admins and other experienced mentors. Our evaluation process
> gives priority to those who, through the meritocratic process, have demonstrated a willingness to do
> this.
> 
>>> As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins.
> 
> These admins are supported by past admins through out Apache Community Development Project
> (http://community.apache.org)
> 
>>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?
>>>
>>> We will try to filter on them in the select process and do our best to
>>> "detect" this as soon as possible. Beside this each project/mentor will keep
>>> an eye on this
> 
> I'd replace this with something like:
> 
> "We work hard to filter potentially disappearing students during the application phases. Over the
> years we have been reasonably successful in defining application processes and selection criteria
> that guard against this. However, it is impossible to spot such cases with 100% accuracy. Mentors
> are expected to make all reasonable efforts to contact a disappearing student through all
> communication channels we have available. However, as an all volunteer organisation we do not
> require mentors to actively seek missing students."
> 
> 
>>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?
>>>
>>> Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
>>> would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
>>> co-mentors for the selected projects.
> 
> In all the years of GSoC we have never had a problem with lack of mentoring. In all cases where a
> mentor has had to step down a replacement has been found.
> 
>>> What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
>>> project's community before, during and after the program?
>>>
>>> We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist
>>> them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them
>>> motivated.
>>
>> Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their ideas with the respective
>> project communities. This is an explicit point we consider when ranking student proposals. During
>> the program, our students should work together with their community in all technical matters. All
>> students are encouraged to participate in their project after GSoC ends. Some might even be granted
>> committer access based on their contributions.
> 
> +1
> 
> Perhaps adding "It is policy at the ASF that project related decisions are not made in private,
> consequently students are required to participate in the community if they want their code to be
> included." at the start of the above para.
> 
>>> If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
>>> applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and
>>> why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:
>>>
>>> Simal:
>>>   - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
>>>   - http://simal.googlecode.com
> 
> Note this is a day job project, so I am biased. However...
> 
> "This is a good candidate as it is run by Ross Gardler, 5 times GSoC admin and 3 times mentor for
> the ASF, as such the project team understand the GSoC processes and expectations. It is an
> interesting project that is attempting to use linked data to expose community activity in open
> source projects. Although it is in late alpha stages it is starting to attract attention from a
> small but passionate community. At present it has a focus on open source produced in academic
> research projects, but it can be used in much broader contexts."
> 
> 
>>>
>>> Saros:
>>>   - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
>>>   - http://www.saros-project.org/
>>
>> We should state a reason why we think these are good canditates for GSoC. I'll have 1-2 sentences
>> prepared for Saros.
>>
>>>
>>> Backup Admin (Link ID):
>>>
>>> Uli ... ( More to be added)
> 
> If you want to add me (rgardler) it will enable me to keep an eye on the status and help you with
> the interface if necessary. It's not a complicated webtool, but it might help to have someone who is
> familar.
> 
> Ross
> 
>>
>> Id is uli, in lower case if that matters.
>>
>> Uli
>>
> 
> 

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

On 07/03/2011 15:07, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> On 07.03.2011 15:54, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
>>>> What is the URL for your ideas page?
>>>>
>>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>
>> That link says "The selected filter with id '12315354' does not exist.
>>
>> If you think this message is wrong, please consult your administrators about getting the necessary
>> permissions. "
>>
>> I'm logged in with my JIRA user
>>
>
> I forgot to share the filter with "Everyone". Can you try again?

Looks good.

Ross

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>]

On 07.03.2011 15:54, Ross Gardler wrote:

>>> What is the URL for your ideas page?
>>>
>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> 
> That link says "The selected filter with id '12315354' does not exist.
> 
> If you think this message is wrong, please consult your administrators about getting the necessary
> permissions. "
> 
> I'm logged in with my JIRA user
> 

I forgot to share the filter with "Everyone". Can you try again?

Uli

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

On 07/03/2011 10:50, Ulrich Stärk wrote:

>> The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
>> Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate
>> in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
>> "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
>> career.
>
> I wouldn't put emphasis on the career part. I think Googles motivation is to advocate open source,
> the application should reflect this.

This isn't about Googles motivation, it's about ours. It wouldn't jurt 
to mention raising awareness of our work though.

>> Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
>> your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.
>>
>> The ASF participate in many GSoCs yet.

All GSoCs to date


> We had many success within the last
>> years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers) or
>> even part of the PMC.  So the GSoC helped us (and our projects) to grew and
>> to build a better community around various projects.

a few are even members

>> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
>> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
>> 6 students passed in 2006.
>>
>> .... (To be added)

This has to be checked in the admin system, for some reason I can't get 
to that data (won't let me log in) Noirin, Luciano can you see it?

>> What is the URL for your ideas page?
>>
>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks

That link says "The selected filter with id '12315354' does not exist.

If you think this message is wrong, please consult your administrators 
about getting the necessary permissions. "

I'm logged in with my JIRA user

>> What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
>> question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
>> about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses
>> more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so
>> students know which to use.
>>
>> No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at http://www.apache.org/and
>> http://incubator.apache.org/

Students may approach the GSOC Admins via dev@community.apache.org

>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>
>> No

Probably expand here (if the form allows) with something like:

Each one of our 100+ projects defines their own requirements for 
individual students. We require that students have already engaged with 
the project community and thus contact details are known. For 
administrative purposes we use the standard form provided by Melange.

>> What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors
>> for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.
>>
>> The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize
>> community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive
>> "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
>> propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.

I'd add something like:

"We expect our mentors to work with our admins and other experienced 
mentors. Our evaluation process gives priority to those who, through the 
meritocratic process, have demonstrated a willingness to do this.

>> As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins.

These admins are supported by past admins through out Apache Community 
Development Project (http://community.apache.org)

>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?
>>
>> We will try to filter on them in the select process and do our best to
>> "detect" this as soon as possible. Beside this each project/mentor will keep
>> an eye on this

I'd replace this with something like:

"We work hard to filter potentially disappearing students during the 
application phases. Over the years we have been reasonably successful in 
defining application processes and selection criteria that guard against 
this. However, it is impossible to spot such cases with 100% accuracy. 
Mentors are expected to make all reasonable efforts to contact a 
disappearing student through all communication channels we have 
available. However, as an all volunteer organisation we do not require 
mentors to actively seek missing students."


>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?
>>
>> Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
>> would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
>> co-mentors for the selected projects.

In all the years of GSoC we have never had a problem with lack of 
mentoring. In all cases where a mentor has had to step down a 
replacement has been found.

>> What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
>> project's community before, during and after the program?
>>
>> We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist
>> them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them
>> motivated.
>
> Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their ideas with the respective
> project communities. This is an explicit point we consider when ranking student proposals. During
> the program, our students should work together with their community in all technical matters. All
> students are encouraged to participate in their project after GSoC ends. Some might even be granted
> committer access based on their contributions.

+1

Perhaps adding "It is policy at the ASF that project related decisions 
are not made in private, consequently students are required to 
participate in the community if they want their code to be included." at 
the start of the above para.

>> If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
>> applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and
>> why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:
>>
>> Simal:
>>   - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
>>   - http://simal.googlecode.com

Note this is a day job project, so I am biased. However...

"This is a good candidate as it is run by Ross Gardler, 5 times GSoC 
admin and 3 times mentor for the ASF, as such the project team 
understand the GSoC processes and expectations. It is an interesting 
project that is attempting to use linked data to expose community 
activity in open source projects. Although it is in late alpha stages it 
is starting to attract attention from a small but passionate community. 
At present it has a focus on open source produced in academic research 
projects, but it can be used in much broader contexts."


>>
>> Saros:
>>   - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
>>   - http://www.saros-project.org/
>
> We should state a reason why we think these are good canditates for GSoC. I'll have 1-2 sentences
> prepared for Saros.
>
>>
>> Backup Admin (Link ID):
>>
>> Uli ... ( More to be added)

If you want to add me (rgardler) it will enable me to keep an eye on the 
status and help you with the interface if necessary. It's not a 
complicated webtool, but it might help to have someone who is familar.

Ross

>
> Id is uli, in lower case if that matters.
>
> Uli
>


-- 
rgardler@apache.org
@rgardler

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>]

Comments inline.

On 07.03.2011 11:18, Norman Maurer wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> For the Co-Admins:
>  *  I need your Id's to add it to the  Application
> 
> For the "last Admins":
>  * Do we have some stats about how many students pass last year etc ?
> 
> 
> 
> I prepared this for GSOC. Please review and add comments.
> 
> Organization Name:
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation
> 
> 
> Description:
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation provides organizational, legal, and financial
> support for a broad range of open source software projects. The Foundation
> provides an established framework for intellectual property and financial
> contributions that simultaneously limits contributors potential legal
> exposure. Through a collaborative and meritocratic development process,
> Apache projects deliver enterprise-grade, freely available software products
> that attract large communities of users. The pragmatic Apache License makes
> it easy for all users, commercial and individual, to deploy Apache products.
> 
> 
> Home page:
> 
> www.apache.org
> 
> 
> Main License:
> 
> ASL2
> 
> 
> Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2011? What do you
> hope to gain by participating?
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
> Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate
> in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
> "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
> career.

I wouldn't put emphasis on the career part. I think Googles motivation is to advocate open source,
the application should reflect this.

> 
> 
> If accepted, would this be your first year participating in GSoC?
> 
> No
> 
> 
> Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
> your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.
> 
> The ASF participate in many GSoCs yet. We had many success within the last
> years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers) or
> even part of the PMC.  So the GSoC helped us (and our projects) to grew and
> to build a better community around various projects.
> 
> 
> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
> 6 students passed in 2006.
> 
> .... (To be added)
> 
> 
> What is the URL for your ideas page?
> 
> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> 
> 
> What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
> question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
> about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses
> more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so
> students know which to use.
> 
> No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at http://www.apache.org/and
> http://incubator.apache.org/
> 
> 
> What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
> 
> No central irc channel. Channels are managed by the specific project (if the
> project has a channel at all)
> 
> 
> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
> 
> No
> 
> 
> What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors
> for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize
> community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive
> "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
> propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.
> 
> As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins.
> 
> 
> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?
> 
> We will try to filter on them in the select process and do our best to
> "detect" this as soon as possible. Beside this each project/mentor will keep
> an eye on this
> 
> 
> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?
> 
> Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
> would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
> co-mentors for the selected projects.
> 
> 
> What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
> project's community before, during and after the program?
> 
> We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist
> them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them
> motivated.

Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their ideas with the respective
project communities. This is an explicit point we consider when ranking student proposals. During
the program, our students should work together with their community in all technical matters. All
students are encouraged to participate in their project after GSoC ends. Some might even be granted
committer access based on their contributions.

> 
> 
> If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
> applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and
> why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:
> 
> Simal:
>  - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
>  - http://simal.googlecode.com
> 
> Saros:
>  - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
>  - http://www.saros-project.org/

We should state a reason why we think these are good canditates for GSoC. I'll have 1-2 sentences
prepared for Saros.

> 
> Backup Admin (Link ID):
> 
> Uli ... ( More to be added)

Id is uli, in lower case if that matters.

Uli

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

In the past I've always sent one out in advance telling people what will happen. I've never encouraged people to put effort in until accepted. 

Sent from my mobile device.

On 7 Mar 2011, at 19:08, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:

> Yeah sure.. I thought such a message only goes out after the ASF is
> accepted. I will try todo some research on this in the archives ( to see how
> this was handled the years before).
> 
> Bye,
> Norman
> 
> 
> 2011/3/7 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>
> 
>> I think we should prepare a message to committers@ announcing GSoC 2011
>> and how we plan to mark tasks.
>> 
>> Uli
>> 
>> On 07.03.2011 18:24, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>> see
>>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>> very
>>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information
>> as
>>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>> 
>>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things like
>> name, contact information,
>>> abstract, detail timeline, and also asked how much time the student would
>> be committing during the
>>> summer and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
>> free format but provide a
>>> template to make sure that such important information is included.
>>> 
>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>> 
>>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make us
>> look a bit week. Perhaps
>>> send a clear message to this list and also code-awards to clarify  how
>> they are to be marked.  There
>>> may be some confusion there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Kathey
>>> 
>> 

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>]

Yeah sure.. I thought such a message only goes out after the ASF is
accepted. I will try todo some research on this in the archives ( to see how
this was handled the years before).

Bye,
Norman


2011/3/7 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>

> I think we should prepare a message to committers@ announcing GSoC 2011
> and how we plan to mark tasks.
>
> Uli
>
> On 07.03.2011 18:24, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> > On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
> >>
> >> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
> see
> >> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
> very
> >> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information
> as
> >> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
> >> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
> >>
> > I think in the past we have had a general template that had things like
> name, contact information,
> > abstract, detail timeline, and also asked how much time the student would
> be committing during the
> > summer and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
> free format but provide a
> > template to make sure that such important information is included.
> >
> > http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> >
> > For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make us
> look a bit week. Perhaps
> > send a clear message to this list and also code-awards to clarify  how
> they are to be marked.  There
> > may be some confusion there.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kathey
> >
>

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

In the past I've always limited announcements to PMCs (and incubator mentors). I believe we need PMC support for all proposals. Going to committers@ might result in individuals with minimal PMC support. 

Sent from my mobile device.

On 7 Mar 2011, at 18:21, Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de> wrote:

> I think we should prepare a message to committers@ announcing GSoC 2011 and how we plan to mark tasks.
> 
> Uli
> 
> On 07.03.2011 18:24, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>> 
>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things like name, contact information,
>> abstract, detail timeline, and also asked how much time the student would be committing during the
>> summer and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a free format but provide a
>> template to make sure that such important information is included.
>> 
>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>> 
>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make us look a bit week. Perhaps
>> send a clear message to this list and also code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There
>> may be some confusion there.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Kathey
>> 

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>]

I think we should prepare a message to committers@ announcing GSoC 2011 and how we plan to mark tasks.

Uli

On 07.03.2011 18:24, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>
>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>
> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things like name, contact information,
> abstract, detail timeline, and also asked how much time the student would be committing during the
> summer and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a free format but provide a
> template to make sure that such important information is included.
> 
> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> 
> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make us look a bit week. Perhaps
> send a clear message to this list and also code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There
> may be some confusion there.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Kathey
> 

Re: Admins we need an announcement to PMCs (Re: [GSOC] Please review Application)

[Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>]

Thanks Uli :)

Bye,
Norman


2011/3/8 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>

> Already at it.
>
> On 08.03.2011 11:41, Ross Gardler wrote:
> > Admins,
> >
> > It is critical that we get an announcement out now. People in projects
> are starting to prepare (Hama
> > thinking they have to apply independently, ANT wanting to record issues
> in our tracker).
> >
> > We need to both a) encourage people to prepare and b) make sure they are
> doing it right.
> >
> > My previous announcement mails are in the archives (I'm pretty sure I've
> always sent them, but not
> > certain, last year it may have been Noirin).
> >
> > We also need to update the instructions for putting issues in JIRA [1] so
> that people can do it
> > right. Note that it is important that they format the subject correctly
> so they can create project
> > specific lists of issues for publicising to their community.
> >
> > We also need to update [2] with working examples of the filters, I just
> removed the broken ones.
> >
> > Ross
> >
> > [1]
> http://community.apache.org/use-the-comdev-issue-tracker-for-gsoc-tasks.html
> > [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
> >
> >
> > On 08/03/2011 06:47, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
> >> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
> >>
> >> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
> >>
> >> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> >>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
> >>>> see
> >>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
> >>>> very
> >>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
> >>>> information as
> >>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with
> you
> >>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
> >>>>
> >>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
> >>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
> >>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
> >>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
> >>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
> >>> information is included.
> >>>
> >>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> >>>
> >>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
> >>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
> >>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
> >>> confusion there.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Kathey
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: Admins we need an announcement to PMCs (Re: [GSOC] Please review Application)

[Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>]

Already at it.

On 08.03.2011 11:41, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Admins,
> 
> It is critical that we get an announcement out now. People in projects are starting to prepare (Hama
> thinking they have to apply independently, ANT wanting to record issues in our tracker).
> 
> We need to both a) encourage people to prepare and b) make sure they are doing it right.
> 
> My previous announcement mails are in the archives (I'm pretty sure I've always sent them, but not
> certain, last year it may have been Noirin).
> 
> We also need to update the instructions for putting issues in JIRA [1] so that people can do it
> right. Note that it is important that they format the subject correctly so they can create project
> specific lists of issues for publicising to their community.
> 
> We also need to update [2] with working examples of the filters, I just removed the broken ones.
> 
> Ross
> 
> [1] http://community.apache.org/use-the-comdev-issue-tracker-for-gsoc-tasks.html
> [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
> 
> 
> On 08/03/2011 06:47, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
>> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
>>
>> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
>>
>> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>>>> see
>>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>>>> very
>>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
>>>> information as
>>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>>
>>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
>>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
>>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
>>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
>>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
>>> information is included.
>>>
>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>>
>>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
>>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
>>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
>>> confusion there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Kathey
>>>
>>
> 
> 

Re: Admins we need an announcement to PMCs (Re: [GSOC] Please review Application)

["Edward J. Yoon" <ed...@udanax.org>]

Hama team don't think to apply independently, we opened an issues on COM-DEV. 

If there's some miss, please let me know!

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011. 3. 8., at 오후 7:46, Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I'm in a meeting marathon till this evening so I don't have time. I will try
> to co-ordinate with co-admins to get this done ASAP.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Norman
> 
> 2011/3/8 Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>
> 
>> Admins,
>> 
>> It is critical that we get an announcement out now. People in projects are
>> starting to prepare (Hama thinking they have to apply independently, ANT
>> wanting to record issues in our tracker).
>> 
>> We need to both a) encourage people to prepare and b) make sure they are
>> doing it right.
>> 
>> My previous announcement mails are in the archives (I'm pretty sure I've
>> always sent them, but not certain, last year it may have been Noirin).
>> 
>> We also need to update the instructions for putting issues in JIRA [1] so
>> that people can do it right. Note that it is important that they format the
>> subject correctly so they can create project specific lists of issues for
>> publicising to their community.
>> 
>> We also need to update [2] with working examples of the filters, I just
>> removed the broken ones.
>> 
>> Ross
>> 
>> [1]
>> http://community.apache.org/use-the-comdev-issue-tracker-for-gsoc-tasks.html
>> [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/03/2011 06:47, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
>>> 
>>> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Antoine
>>> 
>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
>>> 
>>> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>>>>> see
>>>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>>>>> very
>>>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
>>>>> information as
>>>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
>>>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
>>>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
>>>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
>>>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
>>>> information is included.
>>>> 
>>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>>> 
>>>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
>>>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
>>>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
>>>> confusion there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Kathey
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> rgardler@apache.org
>> @rgardler
>> 

Re: Admins we need an announcement to PMCs (Re: [GSOC] Please review Application)

[Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>]

Hi there,

I'm in a meeting marathon till this evening so I don't have time. I will try
to co-ordinate with co-admins to get this done ASAP.

Thanks again,
Norman

2011/3/8 Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>

> Admins,
>
> It is critical that we get an announcement out now. People in projects are
> starting to prepare (Hama thinking they have to apply independently, ANT
> wanting to record issues in our tracker).
>
> We need to both a) encourage people to prepare and b) make sure they are
> doing it right.
>
> My previous announcement mails are in the archives (I'm pretty sure I've
> always sent them, but not certain, last year it may have been Noirin).
>
> We also need to update the instructions for putting issues in JIRA [1] so
> that people can do it right. Note that it is important that they format the
> subject correctly so they can create project specific lists of issues for
> publicising to their community.
>
> We also need to update [2] with working examples of the filters, I just
> removed the broken ones.
>
> Ross
>
> [1]
> http://community.apache.org/use-the-comdev-issue-tracker-for-gsoc-tasks.html
> [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
>
>
> On 08/03/2011 06:47, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
>
>> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
>>
>> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
>>
>> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>>>> see
>>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>>>> very
>>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
>>>> information as
>>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>>
>>>>  I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
>>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
>>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
>>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
>>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
>>> information is included.
>>>
>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>>
>>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
>>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
>>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
>>> confusion there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Kathey
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> rgardler@apache.org
> @rgardler
>

Admins we need an announcement to PMCs (Re: [GSOC] Please review Application)

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

Admins,

It is critical that we get an announcement out now. People in projects 
are starting to prepare (Hama thinking they have to apply independently, 
ANT wanting to record issues in our tracker).

We need to both a) encourage people to prepare and b) make sure they are 
doing it right.

My previous announcement mails are in the archives (I'm pretty sure I've 
always sent them, but not certain, last year it may have been Noirin).

We also need to update the instructions for putting issues in JIRA [1] 
so that people can do it right. Note that it is important that they 
format the subject correctly so they can create project specific lists 
of issues for publicising to their community.

We also need to update [2] with working examples of the filters, I just 
removed the broken ones.

Ross

[1] 
http://community.apache.org/use-the-comdev-issue-tracker-for-gsoc-tasks.html
[2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html


On 08/03/2011 06:47, Antoine Levy-Lambert wrote:
> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
>
> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
>
> Regards,
>
> Antoine
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
>
> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>
>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>>> see
>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>>> very
>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
>>> information as
>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>
>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
>> information is included.
>>
>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>
>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
>> confusion there.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kathey
>>
>


-- 
rgardler@apache.org
@rgardler

Re: [GSOC] [V2] Please review Application

[Kathey Marsden <km...@sbcglobal.net>]

On 3/11/2011 5:12 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 11/03/2011 08:36, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
>> I just amended the application, correcting some typos and formulations.
>
> Thanks for getting our application in.
>
And for sending out the pmc notice!  We are up to a much healthier 31 
ideas with the gsoc2011 label [1]. I think that will make a big 
difference on the application to have lots of ideas from lots of projects.

Kathey

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?jqlQuery=labels+%3D+gsoc2011&tempMax=1000

Re: [GSOC] [V2] Please review Application

[Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>]

On 11/03/2011 08:36, Ulrich Stärk wrote:
> I just amended the application, correcting some typos and formulations.

Thanks for getting our application in.

Ross

Re: [GSOC] [V2] Please review Application

[Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>]

I just amended the application, correcting some typos and formulations.

I added another project from my institute (SeqAn) that wishes to participate in GSoC.

Uli

On 09.03.2011 12:19, Norman Maurer wrote:
> I just submitted the Application based on the feedback I had. If anything
> else should be changed just ping me. We can change stuff until the deadline
> pass (12.03.2011).
> 
> Bye,
> Norman
> 
> 2011/3/8 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>
> 
>> Looks good. Could we please add
>>
>> Saros is run by university staff that has a lot of experience in mentoring
>> students.
>>
>> to the Saros description?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Uli
>>
>> On 08.03.2011 19:34, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> here is the updated Application Draft. I hope I included everything. I
>> will
>>> see if I can find the "old" template somewhere. So please review:
>>>
>>>
>>> Organization Name:
>>>
>>> The Apache Software Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>> Description:
>>>
>>> The Apache Software Foundation provides organizational, legal, and
>> financial
>>> support for a broad range of open source software projects. The
>> Foundation
>>> provides an established framework for intellectual property and financial
>>> contributions that simultaneously limits contributors potential legal
>>> exposure. Through a collaborative and meritocratic development process,
>>> Apache projects deliver enterprise-grade, freely available software
>> products
>>> that attract large communities of users. The pragmatic Apache License
>> makes
>>> it easy for all users, commercial and individual, to deploy Apache
>> products.
>>>
>>>
>>> Home page:
>>>
>>> www.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Main License:
>>>
>>> ASL2
>>>
>>>
>>> Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2011? What do
>> you
>>> hope to gain by participating?
>>>
>>> The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
>>> Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and
>> communicate
>>> in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
>>> "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
>>> career.
>>>
>>>
>>> If accepted, would this be your first year participating in GSoC?
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>>
>>> Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
>>> your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.
>>>
>>> The ASF participate in all GSoCs to date. We had many success within the
>>> last years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community
>> (committers)
>>> , part of the PMC or even ASF Members.  So the GSoC helped us (and our
>>> projects) to grew and to build a better community around various
>> projects.
>>>
>>>
>>> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
>>> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out
>> of
>>> 6 students passed in 2006.
>>>
>>> 2010: 39/44
>>>
>>> What is the URL for your ideas page?
>>>
>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
>>> question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
>>> about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization
>> uses
>>> more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list
>> so
>>> students know which to use.
>>>
>>> No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at
>> http://www.apache.org/and
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/
>>> Students may approach the GSOC Admins via dev@community.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
>>>
>>> No central irc channel. Channels are managed by the specific project (if
>> the
>>> project has a channel at all)
>>>
>>>
>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information
>> as
>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>
>>> No
>>>
>>>
>>> What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as
>> mentors
>>> for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.
>>>
>>> The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to
>> recognize
>>> community contributors which are voted by other community members to
>> receive
>>> "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
>>> propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.
>>> We expect our mentors to work with our admins and other experienced
>> mentors.
>>> Our evaluation process gives priority to those who, through the
>> meritocratic
>>> process, have demonstrated a willingness to do this.
>>> As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins. These
>> admins
>>> are supported by past admins through out Apache Community Development
>>> Project (http://community.apache.org)
>>>
>>>
>>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?
>>>
>>> We work hard to filter potentially disappearing students during the
>>> application phases. Over the years we have been reasonably successful in
>>> defining application processes and selection criteria that guard against
>>> this. However, it is impossible to spot such cases with 100% accuracy.
>>> Mentors are expected to make all reasonable efforts to contact a
>>> disappearing student through all communication channels we have
>> available.
>>> However, as an all volunteer organizations we do not require mentors to
>>> actively seek missing students. This has served us very well in the past.
>>>
>>> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?
>>>
>>> Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
>>> would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
>>> co-mentors for the selected projects.
>>> In all the previous GSOC's we never had problems with lack of mentoring
>> and
>>> found a replacement Mentor if needed.
>>>
>>> What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
>>> project's community before, during and after the program?
>>>
>>> We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to
>> assist
>>> them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep
>> them
>>> motivated.
>>> Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their
>> ideas
>>> with the respective
>>> project communities in the public. This is an explicit point we consider
>>> when ranking student proposals and reflect how projects communicate
>> within
>>> the ASF. During the program, our students should work together with their
>>> community in all technical matters. All students are encouraged to
>>> participate in their project after GSoC ends. Some might even be granted
>>> committer access based on their contributions.
>>>
>>> If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
>>> applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name
>> and
>>> why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:
>>>
>>> Simal:
>>>  - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
>>>  - http://simal.googlecode.com
>>>
>>> This is a good candidate as it is run by Ross Gardler, 5 times GSoC admin
>>> and 3 times mentor for the ASF, as such the project team understand the
>> GSoC
>>> processes and expectations. It is an interesting project that is
>> attempting
>>> to use linked data to expose community activity in open source projects.
>>> Although it is in late alpha stages it is starting to attract attention
>> from
>>> a small but passionate community. At present it has a focus on open
>> source
>>> produced in academic research projects, but it can be used in much
>> broader
>>> contexts.
>>>
>>> Saros:
>>>  - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
>>>  - http://www.saros-project.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> Saros provides a way for distributed developers to work together in
>>> real-time over the Internet and
>>> includes additional features supporting "distributed party programming",
>> a
>>> looser type of
>>> collaboration. Saros is considered useful for virtual communities (as
>>> typically found in open source
>>> projects) in a number of distinct development scenarios, including: pair
>>> programming, code
>>> reviewing, coaching and side-by-side programming.
>>>
>>>
>>> Backup Admin (Link ID):
>>>
>>> uli, rgardler ... ( More to be added)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/3/8 Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de>
>>>
>>>> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
>>>>
>>>> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Antoine
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
>>>>
>>>> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>>>>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
>>>>>> information as
>>>>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with
>> you
>>>>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
>>>>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
>>>>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
>>>>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
>>>>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
>>>>> information is included.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>>>>
>>>>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
>>>>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
>>>>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
>>>>> confusion there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Kathey
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Norman
>>>
>>
> 

Re: [GSOC] [V2] Please review Application

[Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>]

I just submitted the Application based on the feedback I had. If anything
else should be changed just ping me. We can change stuff until the deadline
pass (12.03.2011).

Bye,
Norman

2011/3/8 Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>

> Looks good. Could we please add
>
> Saros is run by university staff that has a lot of experience in mentoring
> students.
>
> to the Saros description?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Uli
>
> On 08.03.2011 19:34, Norman Maurer wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > here is the updated Application Draft. I hope I included everything. I
> will
> > see if I can find the "old" template somewhere. So please review:
> >
> >
> > Organization Name:
> >
> > The Apache Software Foundation
> >
> >
> > Description:
> >
> > The Apache Software Foundation provides organizational, legal, and
> financial
> > support for a broad range of open source software projects. The
> Foundation
> > provides an established framework for intellectual property and financial
> > contributions that simultaneously limits contributors potential legal
> > exposure. Through a collaborative and meritocratic development process,
> > Apache projects deliver enterprise-grade, freely available software
> products
> > that attract large communities of users. The pragmatic Apache License
> makes
> > it easy for all users, commercial and individual, to deploy Apache
> products.
> >
> >
> > Home page:
> >
> > www.apache.org
> >
> >
> > Main License:
> >
> > ASL2
> >
> >
> > Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2011? What do
> you
> > hope to gain by participating?
> >
> > The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
> > Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and
> communicate
> > in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
> > "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
> > career.
> >
> >
> > If accepted, would this be your first year participating in GSoC?
> >
> > No
> >
> >
> > Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
> > your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.
> >
> > The ASF participate in all GSoCs to date. We had many success within the
> > last years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community
> (committers)
> > , part of the PMC or even ASF Members.  So the GSoC helped us (and our
> > projects) to grew and to build a better community around various
> projects.
> >
> >
> > If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
> > ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out
> of
> > 6 students passed in 2006.
> >
> > 2010: 39/44
> >
> > What is the URL for your ideas page?
> >
> > http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> >
> >
> > What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
> > question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
> > about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization
> uses
> > more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list
> so
> > students know which to use.
> >
> > No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at
> http://www.apache.org/and
> > http://incubator.apache.org/
> > Students may approach the GSOC Admins via dev@community.apache.org
> >
> >
> > What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
> >
> > No central irc channel. Channels are managed by the specific project (if
> the
> > project has a channel at all)
> >
> >
> > Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
> > students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
> > good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information
> as
> > part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
> > automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
> >
> > No
> >
> >
> > What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as
> mentors
> > for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.
> >
> > The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to
> recognize
> > community contributors which are voted by other community members to
> receive
> > "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
> > propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.
> > We expect our mentors to work with our admins and other experienced
> mentors.
> > Our evaluation process gives priority to those who, through the
> meritocratic
> > process, have demonstrated a willingness to do this.
> > As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins. These
> admins
> > are supported by past admins through out Apache Community Development
> > Project (http://community.apache.org)
> >
> >
> > What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?
> >
> > We work hard to filter potentially disappearing students during the
> > application phases. Over the years we have been reasonably successful in
> > defining application processes and selection criteria that guard against
> > this. However, it is impossible to spot such cases with 100% accuracy.
> > Mentors are expected to make all reasonable efforts to contact a
> > disappearing student through all communication channels we have
> available.
> > However, as an all volunteer organizations we do not require mentors to
> > actively seek missing students. This has served us very well in the past.
> >
> > What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?
> >
> > Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
> > would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
> > co-mentors for the selected projects.
> > In all the previous GSOC's we never had problems with lack of mentoring
> and
> > found a replacement Mentor if needed.
> >
> > What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
> > project's community before, during and after the program?
> >
> > We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to
> assist
> > them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep
> them
> > motivated.
> > Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their
> ideas
> > with the respective
> > project communities in the public. This is an explicit point we consider
> > when ranking student proposals and reflect how projects communicate
> within
> > the ASF. During the program, our students should work together with their
> > community in all technical matters. All students are encouraged to
> > participate in their project after GSoC ends. Some might even be granted
> > committer access based on their contributions.
> >
> > If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
> > applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name
> and
> > why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:
> >
> > Simal:
> >  - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
> >  - http://simal.googlecode.com
> >
> > This is a good candidate as it is run by Ross Gardler, 5 times GSoC admin
> > and 3 times mentor for the ASF, as such the project team understand the
> GSoC
> > processes and expectations. It is an interesting project that is
> attempting
> > to use linked data to expose community activity in open source projects.
> > Although it is in late alpha stages it is starting to attract attention
> from
> > a small but passionate community. At present it has a focus on open
> source
> > produced in academic research projects, but it can be used in much
> broader
> > contexts.
> >
> > Saros:
> >  - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
> >  - http://www.saros-project.org/
> >
> >
> > Saros provides a way for distributed developers to work together in
> > real-time over the Internet and
> > includes additional features supporting "distributed party programming",
> a
> > looser type of
> > collaboration. Saros is considered useful for virtual communities (as
> > typically found in open source
> > projects) in a number of distinct development scenarios, including: pair
> > programming, code
> > reviewing, coaching and side-by-side programming.
> >
> >
> > Backup Admin (Link ID):
> >
> > uli, rgardler ... ( More to be added)
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/3/8 Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de>
> >
> >> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
> >>
> >> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antoine
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
> >>
> >> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> >>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
> >>>> see
> >>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
> >>>> very
> >>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
> >>>> information as
> >>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with
> you
> >>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
> >>>>
> >>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
> >>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
> >>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
> >>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
> >>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
> >>> information is included.
> >>>
> >>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> >>>
> >>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
> >>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
> >>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
> >>> confusion there.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Kathey
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > Bye,
> > Norman
> >
>

Re: [GSOC] [V2] Please review Application

[Ulrich Stärk <ul...@spielviel.de>]

Looks good. Could we please add

Saros is run by university staff that has a lot of experience in mentoring
students.

to the Saros description?

Thanks,

Uli

On 08.03.2011 19:34, Norman Maurer wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> here is the updated Application Draft. I hope I included everything. I will
> see if I can find the "old" template somewhere. So please review:
> 
> 
> Organization Name:
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation
> 
> 
> Description:
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation provides organizational, legal, and financial
> support for a broad range of open source software projects. The Foundation
> provides an established framework for intellectual property and financial
> contributions that simultaneously limits contributors potential legal
> exposure. Through a collaborative and meritocratic development process,
> Apache projects deliver enterprise-grade, freely available software products
> that attract large communities of users. The pragmatic Apache License makes
> it easy for all users, commercial and individual, to deploy Apache products.
> 
> 
> Home page:
> 
> www.apache.org
> 
> 
> Main License:
> 
> ASL2
> 
> 
> Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2011? What do you
> hope to gain by participating?
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
> Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate
> in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
> "real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
> career.
> 
> 
> If accepted, would this be your first year participating in GSoC?
> 
> No
> 
> 
> Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
> your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.
> 
> The ASF participate in all GSoCs to date. We had many success within the
> last years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers)
> , part of the PMC or even ASF Members.  So the GSoC helped us (and our
> projects) to grew and to build a better community around various projects.
> 
> 
> If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
> ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
> 6 students passed in 2006.
> 
> 2010: 39/44
> 
> What is the URL for your ideas page?
> 
> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> 
> 
> What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
> question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
> about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses
> more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so
> students know which to use.
> 
> No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at http://www.apache.org/and
> http://incubator.apache.org/
> Students may approach the GSOC Admins via dev@community.apache.org
> 
> 
> What is the main IRC channel for your organization?
> 
> No central irc channel. Channels are managed by the specific project (if the
> project has a channel at all)
> 
> 
> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
> 
> No
> 
> 
> What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors
> for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.
> 
> The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize
> community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive
> "committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
> propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.
> We expect our mentors to work with our admins and other experienced mentors.
> Our evaluation process gives priority to those who, through the meritocratic
> process, have demonstrated a willingness to do this.
> As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins. These admins
> are supported by past admins through out Apache Community Development
> Project (http://community.apache.org)
> 
> 
> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?
> 
> We work hard to filter potentially disappearing students during the
> application phases. Over the years we have been reasonably successful in
> defining application processes and selection criteria that guard against
> this. However, it is impossible to spot such cases with 100% accuracy.
> Mentors are expected to make all reasonable efforts to contact a
> disappearing student through all communication channels we have available.
> However, as an all volunteer organizations we do not require mentors to
> actively seek missing students. This has served us very well in the past.
> 
> What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?
> 
> Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
> would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
> co-mentors for the selected projects.
> In all the previous GSOC's we never had problems with lack of mentoring and
> found a replacement Mentor if needed.
> 
> What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
> project's community before, during and after the program?
> 
> We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist
> them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them
> motivated.
> Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their ideas
> with the respective
> project communities in the public. This is an explicit point we consider
> when ranking student proposals and reflect how projects communicate within
> the ASF. During the program, our students should work together with their
> community in all technical matters. All students are encouraged to
> participate in their project after GSoC ends. Some might even be granted
> committer access based on their contributions.
> 
> If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
> applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and
> why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:
> 
> Simal:
>  - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
>  - http://simal.googlecode.com
> 
> This is a good candidate as it is run by Ross Gardler, 5 times GSoC admin
> and 3 times mentor for the ASF, as such the project team understand the GSoC
> processes and expectations. It is an interesting project that is attempting
> to use linked data to expose community activity in open source projects.
> Although it is in late alpha stages it is starting to attract attention from
> a small but passionate community. At present it has a focus on open source
> produced in academic research projects, but it can be used in much broader
> contexts.
> 
> Saros:
>  - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
>  - http://www.saros-project.org/
> 
> 
> Saros provides a way for distributed developers to work together in
> real-time over the Internet and
> includes additional features supporting "distributed party programming", a
> looser type of
> collaboration. Saros is considered useful for virtual communities (as
> typically found in open source
> projects) in a number of distinct development scenarios, including: pair
> programming, code
> reviewing, coaching and side-by-side programming.
> 
> 
> Backup Admin (Link ID):
> 
> uli, rgardler ... ( More to be added)
> 
> 
> 
> 2011/3/8 Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de>
> 
>> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
>>
>> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antoine
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
>>
>> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
>>> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>>>> see
>>>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>>>> very
>>>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
>>>> information as
>>>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>>>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>>>
>>> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
>>> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
>>> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
>>> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
>>> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
>>> information is included.
>>>
>>> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>>
>>> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
>>> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
>>> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
>>> confusion there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Kathey
>>>
>>
>>
> Bye,
> Norman
> 

[GSOC] [V2] Please review Application

[Norman Maurer <no...@apache.org>]

Hi there,

here is the updated Application Draft. I hope I included everything. I will
see if I can find the "old" template somewhere. So please review:


Organization Name:

The Apache Software Foundation


Description:

The Apache Software Foundation provides organizational, legal, and financial
support for a broad range of open source software projects. The Foundation
provides an established framework for intellectual property and financial
contributions that simultaneously limits contributors potential legal
exposure. Through a collaborative and meritocratic development process,
Apache projects deliver enterprise-grade, freely available software products
that attract large communities of users. The pragmatic Apache License makes
it easy for all users, commercial and individual, to deploy Apache products.


Home page:

www.apache.org


Main License:

ASL2


Why is your organization applying to participate in GSoC 2011? What do you
hope to gain by participating?

The Apache Software Foundation hope to help students to get in touch with
Opensource. Beside this we try to teach them how to develop and communicate
in a multi-culture organisation. All this will help them to get some
"real-world" expirience which will hopefully help them later in their
career.


If accepted, would this be your first year participating in GSoC?

No


Did your organization participate in past GSoCs? If so, please summarize
your involvement and the successes and challenges of your participation.

The ASF participate in all GSoCs to date. We had many success within the
last years. Many "prior" Students are now part of the community (committers)
, part of the PMC or even ASF Members.  So the GSoC helped us (and our
projects) to grew and to build a better community around various projects.


If your organization participated in past GSoCs, please let us know the
ratio of students passing to students allocated, e.g. 2006: 3/6 for 3 out of
6 students passed in 2006.

2010: 39/44

What is the URL for your ideas page?

http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks


What is the main development mailing list for your organization? This
question will be shown to students who would like to get more information
about applying to your organization for GSoC 2011. If your organization uses
more than one list, please make sure to include a description of the list so
students know which to use.

No central list, see the lists of Apache projects at http://www.apache.org/and
http://incubator.apache.org/
Students may approach the GSOC Admins via dev@community.apache.org


What is the main IRC channel for your organization?

No central irc channel. Channels are managed by the specific project (if the
project has a channel at all)


Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.

No


What criteria did you use to select the individuals who will act as mentors
for your organization? Please be as specific as possible.

The Apache Software Foundation uses the Meritocracy principle to recognize
community contributors which are voted by other community members to receive
"committer karma" for a given project. These committers will be able to
propose ideas and volunteer as mentors for the selected project ideas.
We expect our mentors to work with our admins and other experienced mentors.
Our evaluation process gives priority to those who, through the meritocratic
process, have demonstrated a willingness to do this.
As for Administrators, we are using a set 4 admins/co-admins. These admins
are supported by past admins through out Apache Community Development
Project (http://community.apache.org)


What is your plan for dealing with disappearing students?

We work hard to filter potentially disappearing students during the
application phases. Over the years we have been reasonably successful in
defining application processes and selection criteria that guard against
this. However, it is impossible to spot such cases with 100% accuracy.
Mentors are expected to make all reasonable efforts to contact a
disappearing student through all communication channels we have available.
However, as an all volunteer organizations we do not require mentors to
actively seek missing students. This has served us very well in the past.

What is your plan for dealing with disappearing mentors?

Considering the ASF is a foundation, not a single project, we the admins
would ask for the project PMC to indicate a substitute mentor or provide
co-mentors for the selected projects.
In all the previous GSOC's we never had problems with lack of mentoring and
found a replacement Mentor if needed.

What steps will you take to encourage students to interact with your
project's community before, during and after the program?

We try to treat the students like a part of the community and try to assist
them. This way they feel like be a part of the ASF. This helps to keep them
motivated.
Prior to submitting a proposal, students are required to discuss their ideas
with the respective
project communities in the public. This is an explicit point we consider
when ranking student proposals and reflect how projects communicate within
the ASF. During the program, our students should work together with their
community in all technical matters. All students are encouraged to
participate in their project after GSoC ends. Some might even be granted
committer access based on their contributions.

If you are a large organization who is vouching for a small organization
applying to GSoC for their first time this year, please list their name and
why you think they'd be good candidates for GSoC here:

Simal:
 - A project registry using DOAP for data harvesting and sharing
 - http://simal.googlecode.com

This is a good candidate as it is run by Ross Gardler, 5 times GSoC admin
and 3 times mentor for the ASF, as such the project team understand the GSoC
processes and expectations. It is an interesting project that is attempting
to use linked data to expose community activity in open source projects.
Although it is in late alpha stages it is starting to attract attention from
a small but passionate community. At present it has a focus on open source
produced in academic research projects, but it can be used in much broader
contexts.

Saros:
 - Distributed Collaborative Editing and Distributed Party Programming
 - http://www.saros-project.org/


Saros provides a way for distributed developers to work together in
real-time over the Internet and
includes additional features supporting "distributed party programming", a
looser type of
collaboration. Saros is considered useful for virtual communities (as
typically found in open source
projects) in a number of distinct development scenarios, including: pair
programming, code
reviewing, coaching and side-by-side programming.


Backup Admin (Link ID):

uli, rgardler ... ( More to be added)



2011/3/8 Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de>

> Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others
>
> I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 :
>
> Regards,
>
> Antoine
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60
>
> On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> > On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
> >>
> >> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
> >> see
> >> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
> >> very
> >> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
> >> information as
> >> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
> >> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
> >>
> > I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
> > like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
> > asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
> > and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
> > free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
> > information is included.
> >
> > http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
> >
> > For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
> > us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
> > code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
> > confusion there.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kathey
> >
>
>
Bye,
Norman

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de>]

Hello Kathey, Norman, Ross and others

I have entered a new issue COMDEV-60 : 

Regards,

Antoine

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COMDEV-60 

On 3/7/11 12:24 PM, Kathey Marsden wrote:
> On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>
>> Does your organization have an application template you would like to
>> see
>> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a
>> very
>> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact
>> information as
>> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
>> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>>
> I think in the past we have had a general template that had things
> like name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also
> asked how much time the student would be committing during the summer
> and what other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a
> free format but provide a template to make sure that such important
> information is included.
>
> http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>
> For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make
> us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also
> code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some
> confusion there.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Kathey
>

Re: [GSOC] Please review Application

[Kathey Marsden <km...@sbcglobal.net>]

On 3/7/2011 2:18 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>
> Does your organization have an application template you would like to see
> students use? If so, please provide it now. Please note that it is a very
> good idea to ask students to provide you with their contact information as
> part of your template. Their contact details will not be shared with you
> automatically via the GSoC 2011 site.
>
I think in the past we have had a general template that had things like 
name, contact information, abstract, detail timeline, and also asked how 
much time the student would be committing during the summer and what 
other commitments they had.  I think it is good to have a free format 
but provide a template to make sure that such important information is 
included.

http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks

For the project ideas page, we only have three so far which might make 
us look a bit week. Perhaps send a clear message to this list and also 
code-awards to clarify  how they are to be marked.  There may be some 
confusion there.


Thanks

Kathey