RE: T5: What is NOT beautiful about Tapestry?

[alanearl <al...@dash.com.ph>]

Yup, its true the only problem of Tapestry 5.
It lacks full documents that can help many newbies
to learn this framework.

As long as its FREE I will be a Tapestry lover...
Not all things in this world is EASY!



Newham, Cameron wrote:
> 
> 3) Documentation - Good solid reference examples of how to do do simple
> apps, explained in detail. Most developers want a framework to be like
> lego
> building blocks. I do A, B, C and D and I get E. I assemble a dozen
> different pieces and I have my app. Really how complicated are most web
> apps? They are forms and workflow and validation.  To get developers to
> use
> your framework you need good examples of how to do each, laid out and
> described in simple guaranteed to work steps. There need to be examples
> of
> these  in both Netbeans and Eclipse; preferably several examples of
> each.
> 
> -----------
> 
> All good points, but this above all others I think. Developers never
> seem to fully appreciate this - or if they do, they make it a lesser
> priority.
> 
> Documentation is critical. It doesn't matter how good something is (and
> that those "in the know" know it), it's rendered useless if the
> documentation doesn't exist or is not up to scratch. Tapestry 5
> documentation is not up to scratch. I'll repeat that: Tapestry 5
> documentation is not up to scratch.
> 
> Why?
> 
> Unfortunately there are a plethora of places to look in if you want to
> find how to do something. It's not only annoying for people who are
> developing in Tapestry, it is off-putting to new developers who are
> looking at this as a possible solution to a development problem.
> 
> We've now reached a stage in web development where things should be easy
> to put together (Lego building blocks). I used to hate web development
> and Tapestry 3 was the first thing I found which helped me dislike it a
> lot less. Tapestry 5 even more so. However, having no good set of
> central documentation, how-tos, cookbook solutions, etc makes the
> development process that much harder and not like Lego blocks. I really
> only want to have to think about business logic and know only the basics
> of how Tapestry works. Turning to the source code should be a last
> resort and I've had to do that once so far with Tapestry 5 because the
> documentation I required was inadequate (can't remember what it was now,
> but it wasn't even anything exotic I was trying to do!)
> 
> That said, I think this mailing list is fantastic and has certainly
> ridden to my rescue on numerous occasions. The only off-putting thing is
> the fear of asking the "dumb question". Sure, no questions are dumb, but
> I always feel a lot better if I know I've made an effort to find out how
> to do something before asking on here. Again, lack of good docs makes
> that effort so much harder and also increases the traffic on here by the
> same questions being asked multiple times.
> 
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