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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Tom Miller <tm...@lisco.com> on 2003/05/05 14:08:19 UTC
Getting started
What release of Tapestry would be advised for someone new to Tapestry?
2.4-a5? 2.3-rc1? other?
Thanks!
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Tom Miller
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RE: Getting started
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
I think Tapestry needs an installer program to force people to read the Readme.html file.
I'm only half kidding.
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http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frederic Soulier [mailto:frederic@wallaby.uklinux.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:26 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: Getting started
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 17:28, Tom Miller wrote:
> > Bill Lear wrote:
> >
> > >You don't need J2EE for Tapestry in the least. I'm using
> JSDK 1.4+
> > >and have been doing fine...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > So do you I just ignore the build errors related to j2ee jars/libs?
> > The
> > build.xml didn't look like one could easily strip out the
> ejb stuff. I
> > haven't been able to do an "ant install" to, among other
> things, build
> > the workbench. There are too many ejb related errors to allow the
> > compile to finish.
> >
> > But probably I'm missing something, I'd appreciate any
> suggestions...
>
> You can download a version of JBoss (I'm using 3.0.7) then in
> your Tapestry(from CVS)/config there is a file named
> build.properties.sample. Copy it to build.properties, edit it
> and fill in the jboss.dir=
> ex: if you installed jboss in /opt/jboss-3.0.7 then
> jboss.dir=/opt/jboss-3.0.7 Now everything should compile.
>
> The installation is a different matter as it does not work
> with recent jboss build. Having said that I just copied stuff
> manually from /Tapestry to my jboss install (default server)
> and it's ok (almost). The vlib stuff still complains about
> the McKoiDB...
>
> Alternatively you do not need to get jboss entirely as long
> as you have the j2ee stuff in your classpath.
>
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> Frederic Soulier <fr...@wallaby.uklinux.net>
>
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Re: Getting started
Posted by Frederic Soulier <fr...@wallaby.uklinux.net>.
On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 17:28, Tom Miller wrote:
> Bill Lear wrote:
>
> >You don't need J2EE for Tapestry in the least. I'm using JSDK 1.4+
> >and have been doing fine...
> >
> >
> >
> So do you I just ignore the build errors related to j2ee jars/libs? The
> build.xml didn't look like one could easily strip out the ejb stuff. I
> haven't been able to do an "ant install" to, among other things, build
> the workbench. There are too many ejb related errors to allow the
> compile to finish.
>
> But probably I'm missing something, I'd appreciate any suggestions...
You can download a version of JBoss (I'm using 3.0.7) then in your
Tapestry(from CVS)/config there is a file named build.properties.sample.
Copy it to build.properties, edit it and fill in the jboss.dir=
ex: if you installed jboss in /opt/jboss-3.0.7 then
jboss.dir=/opt/jboss-3.0.7
Now everything should compile.
The installation is a different matter as it does not work with recent
jboss build. Having said that I just copied stuff manually from
/Tapestry to my jboss install (default server) and it's ok (almost).
The vlib stuff still complains about the McKoiDB...
Alternatively you do not need to get jboss entirely as long as you have
the j2ee stuff in your classpath.
--
Frederic Soulier <fr...@wallaby.uklinux.net>
Re: Getting started
Posted by Bill Lear <ra...@zopyra.com>.
On Wednesday, May 7, 2003 at 11:28:25 (-0500) Tom Miller writes:
>Bill Lear wrote:
>
>>You don't need J2EE for Tapestry in the least. I'm using JSDK 1.4+
>>and have been doing fine...
>>
>>
>>
>So do you I just ignore the build errors related to j2ee jars/libs? The
>build.xml didn't look like one could easily strip out the ejb stuff. I
>haven't been able to do an "ant install" to, among other things, build
>the workbench. There are too many ejb related errors to allow the
>compile to finish.
>
>But probably I'm missing something, I'd appreciate any suggestions...
Ah, yes. To build the examples, including Vlib, you will need the
J2EE jar files (shouldn't be too many, see the Readme.html file, I
think). I thought you meant did you need J2EE to use Tapestry
itself...
These are the jar files I happen to have in my checkout of Tapestry:
./examples/Workbench/lib/jCharts-0.6.0.jar
./ext-dist/jcommon-0.6.4.jar
./ext-dist/jfreechart-0.9.6.jar
./ext-dist/mckoidb-0.94h.jar
./ext-dist/mckoidb-0.94h-jmx.jar
./junit/lib/jdom-b8.jar
./lib/ext/bcel-5.0.jar
./lib/ext/bsf-2.3.0.jar
./lib/ext/commons-beanutils-1.6.1.jar
./lib/ext/commons-collections-2.1.jar
./lib/ext/commons-digester-1.4.jar
./lib/ext/commons-lang-1.0.jar
./lib/ext/commons-logging-1.0.2.jar
./lib/ext/jakarta-oro-2.0.6.jar
./lib/ext/ognl-2.4.2.jar
./lib/ext/commons-fileupload-1.0-beta-1.jar
./lib/runtime/log4j-1.2.6.jar
./lib/tapestry-contrib-3.0-beta-1.jar
./lib/vlibbeans.jar
./lib/tapestry-3.0-beta-1.jar
Bill
Re: Getting started
Posted by Tom Miller <tm...@lisco.com>.
Bill Lear wrote:
>You don't need J2EE for Tapestry in the least. I'm using JSDK 1.4+
>and have been doing fine...
>
>
>
So do you I just ignore the build errors related to j2ee jars/libs? The
build.xml didn't look like one could easily strip out the ejb stuff. I
haven't been able to do an "ant install" to, among other things, build
the workbench. There are too many ejb related errors to allow the
compile to finish.
But probably I'm missing something, I'd appreciate any suggestions...
--
Tom Miller
Miller Associates, Inc.
tmiller@lisco.com
641.469.3535 Phone
413.581.6326 FAX
Re: Getting started
Posted by Bill Lear <ra...@zopyra.com>.
On Wednesday, May 7, 2003 at 10:39:01 (-0500) Tom Miller writes:
>Thanks, one and all.
>
>Since I already had the CVS latest downloaded I think I'll hang on for
>the next release of Spindle, although I love tools like that.
>
>I really appreciate getting the scoop from experienced Tapestry
>developers. I'm used to using J2SE and have had no plans to develop
>EJBs. Obviously Tapestry has plenty of EJB code in vlib, etc. Am I
>barking up the wrong tree here, or should I be able to get along fine
>without J2EE? I'm hesitant to change JSDKs., but maybe it's worth it to
>use Tapestry.
You don't need J2EE for Tapestry in the least. I'm using JSDK 1.4+
and have been doing fine...
Bill
Re: Getting started
Posted by Tom Miller <tm...@lisco.com>.
Thanks, one and all.
Since I already had the CVS latest downloaded I think I'll hang on for
the next release of Spindle, although I love tools like that.
I really appreciate getting the scoop from experienced Tapestry
developers. I'm used to using J2SE and have had no plans to develop
EJBs. Obviously Tapestry has plenty of EJB code in vlib, etc. Am I
barking up the wrong tree here, or should I be able to get along fine
without J2EE? I'm hesitant to change JSDKs., but maybe it's worth it to
use Tapestry.
What say?
Tom
Bill Lear wrote:
>On , May 7, 2003 at 01:02:57 (+0200) John Meredith writes:
>
>
>>If you're using Eclipse, it might be worth sticking with 2.3 as you can
>>use the latest version of spindle: http://spindle.sourceforge.net/
>>
>>Just a thought.
>>
>>
>
>I believe Geoff (spindle author) is making heroic progress on the next
>release. I'd stick with the latest 3.0alpha/beta code in CVS (2
>cents').
>
>
>Bill
>
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Re: Getting started
Posted by Bill Lear <ra...@zopyra.com>.
On , May 7, 2003 at 01:02:57 (+0200) John Meredith writes:
>If you're using Eclipse, it might be worth sticking with 2.3 as you can
>use the latest version of spindle: http://spindle.sourceforge.net/
>
>Just a thought.
I believe Geoff (spindle author) is making heroic progress on the next
release. I'd stick with the latest 3.0alpha/beta code in CVS (2
cents').
Bill
Re: Getting started
Posted by John Meredith <ps...@t-online.de>.
If you're using Eclipse, it might be worth sticking with 2.3 as you can
use the latest version of spindle: http://spindle.sourceforge.net/
Just a thought.
- John
On Wed, 2003-05-07 at 00:43, Tom Miller wrote:
> I've got the latest from CVS. It's all sitting nicely compiled in
> Eclipse 2.1.
>
> All I seem to be missing is two external distributions:
> jdom-b8.jar
> junit.jar
>
> and workbench.war
>
> Of course, I have junit around here. But where does jdom-b8.jar come
> from?
>
> And what about workbench.war? is it worth using, and where to find?
>
> Bill, or anyone?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tom
>
>
> Bill Lear wrote:
>
> >On Monday, May 5, 2003 at 07:08:19 (-0500) Tom Miller writes:
> >
> >
> >>What release of Tapestry would be advised for someone new to Tapestry?
> >>2.4-a5? 2.3-rc1? other?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Get the latest from CVS.
> >
> >
> >Bill
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: Getting started
Posted by Bill Lear <ra...@zopyra.com>.
On Tuesday, May 6, 2003 at 17:43:05 (-0500) Tom Miller writes:
>I've got the latest from CVS. It's all sitting nicely compiled in
>Eclipse 2.1.
>
>All I seem to be missing is two external distributions:
>jdom-b8.jar
>junit.jar
>
>and workbench.war
>
>Of course, I have junit around here. But where does jdom-b8.jar come
>from?
>
>And what about workbench.war? is it worth using, and where to find?
>
>Bill, or anyone?
workbench.war comes from building the examples. junit.jar from junit.org.
jdom from jdom.org, I think.
Bill
Re: Getting started
Posted by Eitan Suez <ei...@uptodata.com>.
hi tom,
jdom is indeed from jdom.org. it's worth looking into in that
it's an xml processing api that is very java friendly compared
to dom. it leverages other java apis such as the collections
framework. dom4j is another similar api (dom4j.org) that
also supports xpath expressions.
/ eitan
On Tuesday, May 6, 2003, at 17:43 US/Central, Tom Miller wrote:
> I've got the latest from CVS. It's all sitting nicely compiled in
> Eclipse 2.1.
>
> All I seem to be missing is two external distributions:
> jdom-b8.jar
> junit.jar
>
> and workbench.war
>
> Of course, I have junit around here. But where does jdom-b8.jar come
> from?
>
> And what about workbench.war? is it worth using, and where to find?
>
> Bill, or anyone?
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
Re: Getting started
Posted by Tom Miller <tm...@lisco.com>.
I've got the latest from CVS. It's all sitting nicely compiled in
Eclipse 2.1.
All I seem to be missing is two external distributions:
jdom-b8.jar
junit.jar
and workbench.war
Of course, I have junit around here. But where does jdom-b8.jar come
from?
And what about workbench.war? is it worth using, and where to find?
Bill, or anyone?
Thanks!
Tom
Bill Lear wrote:
>On Monday, May 5, 2003 at 07:08:19 (-0500) Tom Miller writes:
>
>
>>What release of Tapestry would be advised for someone new to Tapestry?
>>2.4-a5? 2.3-rc1? other?
>>
>>
>
>Get the latest from CVS.
>
>
>Bill
>
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Tom Miller
Miller Associates, Inc.
tmiller@lisco.com
641.469.3535 Phone
413.581.6326 FAX
Re: Getting started
Posted by Bill Lear <ra...@zopyra.com>.
On Monday, May 5, 2003 at 07:08:19 (-0500) Tom Miller writes:
>What release of Tapestry would be advised for someone new to Tapestry?
>2.4-a5? 2.3-rc1? other?
Get the latest from CVS.
Bill