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Posted to dev@clerezza.apache.org by Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net> on 2010/08/30 14:11:28 UTC

other mailing list?

This mailing list sends out a lot of automated messages. Is there a list for more general talk? Arch issues, etc...?

Henry

Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/


Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net> wrote:
> On 31 Aug 2010, at 13:43, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>> ...Also, if long discussions are taking place in JIRA issues it might be
>> better to move them here. I dunno if that's the case, haven't checked.
>
> That's an interesting issue I had not thought of. What type of discussions should
> take place in JIRA. I have never really thought of subscribing to bug datbases...

JIRA events are sent to this list, but the subject lines are the JIRA
issue titles, so it's hard to follow what's happening with a quick
glance.

I'm not saying that too much discussion is happening in JIRA - I
haven't really checked, but considering the relatively low number of
architecture and design discussions that happen directly on this list,
I assume some are happening there.

As to what should be there and what should be here, there are no hard
rules IMO...discussions that are very specific to an issue are
probably good to have in JIRA, but as soon as it's about general
arch/design or when community input is desired I'd move the
discussions here.

-Bertrand

Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net>.
On 31 Aug 2010, at 13:43, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net> wrote:
>> This mailing list sends out a lot of automated messages. Is there a list for more general talk? Arch issues, etc...?
> 
> The Hudson build messages generate a lot of noise, but they could be
> configured to go to clerezza-commits@incubator.apache.org instead of
> clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> 
> Would that solve your problem?

yes. The problems I wanted to discuss are dev/arch issues. It's just that with
all the noise it is easy to miss important discussions...

> 
> I don't think the Clerezza community is large enough to warrant
> separate user and dev lists.
> 
> Also, if long discussions are taking place in JIRA issues it might be
> better to move them here. I dunno if that's the case, haven't checked.

That's an interesting issue I had not thought of. What type of discussions should
take place in JIRA. I have never really thought of subscribing to bug datbases...                 

> 
> -Bertrand

Social Web Architect
http://bblfish.net/


Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org>wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > ...independent of the requirement on another list, I would love to have
> the
> > hudson build messages to go to clerezza-commits...
>
> Can someone do this change?
>
I made the change.

cheers
hasan

>
> I could do it but I'm not even a Clerezza committer, so I'd rather
> have you guys do that.
>
> -Bertrand
>

Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org> wrote:
> ...independent of the requirement on another list, I would love to have the
> hudson build messages to go to clerezza-commits...

Can someone do this change?

I could do it but I'm not even a Clerezza committer, so I'd rather
have you guys do that.

-Bertrand

Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
Hi Bertrand,

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net>
> wrote:
> > This mailing list sends out a lot of automated messages. Is there a list
> for more general talk? Arch issues, etc...?
>
> The Hudson build messages generate a lot of noise, but they could be
> configured to go to clerezza-commits@incubator.apache.org instead of
> clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
>
independent of the requirement on another list, I would love to have the
hudson build messages to go to clerezza-commits

cheers
Hasan

>
> Would that solve your problem?
>
> I don't think the Clerezza community is large enough to warrant
> separate user and dev lists.
>
> Also, if long discussions are taking place in JIRA issues it might be
> better to move them here. I dunno if that's the case, haven't checked.
>
> -Bertrand
>

Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net> wrote:
> This mailing list sends out a lot of automated messages. Is there a list for more general talk? Arch issues, etc...?

The Hudson build messages generate a lot of noise, but they could be
configured to go to clerezza-commits@incubator.apache.org instead of
clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org

Would that solve your problem?

I don't think the Clerezza community is large enough to warrant
separate user and dev lists.

Also, if long discussions are taking place in JIRA issues it might be
better to move them here. I dunno if that's the case, haven't checked.

-Bertrand

AW: other mailing list?

Posted by Fabian Wabbel <fa...@getunik.com>.
Hi,

+1 for a more user focused list. I think it's also essential for the community process.


Cheers
Fabian





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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Hasan Hasan [mailto:hasan@trialox.org] 
Gesendet: Montag, 30. August 2010 19:22
An: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: other mailing list?

Hi all,

I am not against a new mailing list. An alternative would be to
automatically filter out those automated messages.

Regards
Hasan

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Henry,
> this ML (clerezza-dev) is intended for developers' topics but we don't have
> a users ML yet [1].
> As this is not the first request for a more user oriented ML we could ask
> infra for clerezza-user@incubator.apache.org.
> Opinions?
> Cheers,
> Tommaso
>
> [1] : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/clerezza.html
>
> 2010/8/30 Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net>
>
> > This mailing list sends out a lot of automated messages. Is there a list
> > for more general talk? Arch issues, etc...?
> >
> > Henry
> >
> > Social Web Architect
> > http://bblfish.net/
> >
> >
>

Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Hasan Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
Hi all,

I am not against a new mailing list. An alternative would be to
automatically filter out those automated messages.

Regards
Hasan

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Henry,
> this ML (clerezza-dev) is intended for developers' topics but we don't have
> a users ML yet [1].
> As this is not the first request for a more user oriented ML we could ask
> infra for clerezza-user@incubator.apache.org.
> Opinions?
> Cheers,
> Tommaso
>
> [1] : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/clerezza.html
>
> 2010/8/30 Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net>
>
> > This mailing list sends out a lot of automated messages. Is there a list
> > for more general talk? Arch issues, etc...?
> >
> > Henry
> >
> > Social Web Architect
> > http://bblfish.net/
> >
> >
>

Re: other mailing list?

Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi Henry,
this ML (clerezza-dev) is intended for developers' topics but we don't have
a users ML yet [1].
As this is not the first request for a more user oriented ML we could ask
infra for clerezza-user@incubator.apache.org.
Opinions?
Cheers,
Tommaso

[1] : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/clerezza.html

2010/8/30 Henry Story <he...@bblfish.net>

> This mailing list sends out a lot of automated messages. Is there a list
> for more general talk? Arch issues, etc...?
>
> Henry
>
> Social Web Architect
> http://bblfish.net/
>
>