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Posted to dev@openjpa.apache.org by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> on 2006/08/22 20:38:37 UTC
Creating sandbox branches
Hi,
You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for the
OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some of Abe's changes
were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to create this branch in
a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error with creating the
directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to create the OPENJPA-24
branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I didn't think that was
appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be allowed to use
these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox. If we agree,
could someone with enough authority create the branches folder so that we
have a place to put them?
Thanks!
Kevin
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Bill Dudney <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi Kevin,
The way I've seen other projects handle this is by using branches as
the place to do whole sale refactoring/changes and 'sandbox' is a
place for additional code that might or might not ever make it to the
trunk. If the refactoring/change that was started in a branch does
not work out then its easy enough to delete it.
Another thing to consider is using SVK (http://svk.elixus.org/) to
manage getting changes made to trunk into the branch and the changes
from the trunk eventually into the trunk. I've not done it personally
but I've heard others say it worked well for them. I will try to
scare up some additional info on it for you if you are interested.
TTFN,
-bd-
On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:07 AM, Kevin Sutter wrote:
> Craig,
> You are correct. I can create a sandbox at the same level as
> "trunk", just
> like your example showed. But, I don't think we want to create
> them at the
> "trunk" level. I would think we would want a separate directory
> structure
> to place the sandboxes in. Something like...
>
> openjpa/site
> openjpa/trunk
> openjpa/tags
> openjpa/branches
> openjpa/sandboxes
>
> Then, when we get to the position of having official releases and
> fixpacks,
> we can use the tags and branches subdirectories to store these.
>
> We could use the "sandboxes" directory to store the development
> sandboxes
> without cluttering up the root.
>
> That's my idea anyway...
> Kevin
>
> On 8/31/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>>
>> IIUC, any committer can create a sandbox by using the svn copy
>> command. e.g.
>>
>> svn copy https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/trunk/
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandbox
>>
>> You can then merge back from the sandbox (I'm not really able to give
>> you details here...)
>>
>> If this doesn't work for you, I'll be happy to give it a try. Let me
>> know.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
>>
>> > +1.
>> >
>> > Now, to find the right person....
>> >
>> > -Patrick
>> >
>> > --
>> > Patrick Linskey
>> > BEA Systems, Inc.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
>> >> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
>> >>
>> >> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at
>> other
>> >> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
>> >> "branches",
>> >> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
>> >> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
>> >> authority. Who
>> >> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
>> >> should we have
>> >> them create?
>> >>
>> >> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with
>> >> svn
>> >> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
>> >> minimum. If
>> >> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
>> >> OpenJPA, then we
>> >> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox
>> >> development
>> >> branches.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Kevin
>> >>
>> >> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch
>> for the
>> >>> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
>> >> of Abe's changes
>> >>> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
>> >> create this branch in
>> >>> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
>> >> with creating the
>> >>> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
>> >> create the OPENJPA-24
>> >>> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
>> >> didn't think that was
>> >>> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
>> >>>
>> >>> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
>> >> allowed to use
>> >>> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
>> >>> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
>> >> If we agree,
>> >>> could someone with enough authority create the branches
>> >> folder so that we
>> >>> have a place to put them?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>> Kevin
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>> _
>> > _
>> > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may
>> > contain
>> > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and
>> > affiliated
>> > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted
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>> > individual
>> > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended
>> > recipient,
>> > and have received this message in error, please immediately return
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>>
>> Craig Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/
>> jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
>>
>>
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Hi Kevin,
Of course. We want a sandboxes directory at the same level as trunk.
Craig
On Aug 31, 2006, at 7:07 AM, Kevin Sutter wrote:
> Craig,
> You are correct. I can create a sandbox at the same level as
> "trunk", just
> like your example showed. But, I don't think we want to create
> them at the
> "trunk" level. I would think we would want a separate directory
> structure
> to place the sandboxes in. Something like...
>
> openjpa/site
> openjpa/trunk
> openjpa/tags
> openjpa/branches
> openjpa/sandboxes
>
> Then, when we get to the position of having official releases and
> fixpacks,
> we can use the tags and branches subdirectories to store these.
>
> We could use the "sandboxes" directory to store the development
> sandboxes
> without cluttering up the root.
>
> That's my idea anyway...
> Kevin
>
> On 8/31/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>>
>> IIUC, any committer can create a sandbox by using the svn copy
>> command. e.g.
>>
>> svn copy https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/trunk/
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandbox
>>
>> You can then merge back from the sandbox (I'm not really able to give
>> you details here...)
>>
>> If this doesn't work for you, I'll be happy to give it a try. Let me
>> know.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
>>
>> > +1.
>> >
>> > Now, to find the right person....
>> >
>> > -Patrick
>> >
>> > --
>> > Patrick Linskey
>> > BEA Systems, Inc.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
>> >> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
>> >>
>> >> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at
>> other
>> >> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
>> >> "branches",
>> >> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
>> >> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
>> >> authority. Who
>> >> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
>> >> should we have
>> >> them create?
>> >>
>> >> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with
>> >> svn
>> >> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
>> >> minimum. If
>> >> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
>> >> OpenJPA, then we
>> >> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox
>> >> development
>> >> branches.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Kevin
>> >>
>> >> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch
>> for the
>> >>> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
>> >> of Abe's changes
>> >>> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
>> >> create this branch in
>> >>> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
>> >> with creating the
>> >>> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
>> >> create the OPENJPA-24
>> >>> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
>> >> didn't think that was
>> >>> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
>> >>>
>> >>> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
>> >> allowed to use
>> >>> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
>> >>> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
>> >> If we agree,
>> >>> could someone with enough authority create the branches
>> >> folder so that we
>> >>> have a place to put them?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks!
>> >>> Kevin
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>> _
>> > _
>> > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may
>> > contain
>> > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and
>> > affiliated
>> > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted
>> > and/or
>> > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the
>> > individual
>> > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended
>> > recipient,
>> > and have received this message in error, please immediately return
>> > this
>> > by email and then delete it.
>>
>> Craig Russell
>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/
>> jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
>>
>>
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Eddie O'Neil <ek...@gmail.com>.
Kevin--
Great -- glad it worked. :)
All I did was:
svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa incubator/openjpa
cd incubator/openjpa
mkdir sandboxes
svn add sandboxes
Could just be that Eclipse was trying to do something funny at the
root of the repository (?).
Cheers,
Eddie
On 8/31/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Eddie,
> You have the power! I just created a development sandbox and placed in the
> newly created directory. Worked like a charm.
>
> Maybe I'm just not doing it right. How did you create the directory? I was
> trying to "create it" when I was creating the branch via svn. I got an
> error back that said I didn't have permissions. And, then I tried creating
> an empty folder via the svn perspective in Eclipse and I got the same
> permission error. Did you ssh to the svn repository and create the folder
> that way? Just curious.
>
> Thanks again!
> Kevin
>
> On 8/31/06, Eddie O'Neil <ek...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Kevin--
> >
> > Not sure what's up with your permissions (if it even is that...),
> > but I just created a sandboxes/ line here:
> >
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandboxes/
> >
> > See if you're able to commit a file there and then try copying the trunk/
> > line.
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Craig,
> > > You are correct. I can create a sandbox at the same level as "trunk",
> > just
> > > like your example showed. But, I don't think we want to create them at
> > the
> > > "trunk" level. I would think we would want a separate directory
> > structure
> > > to place the sandboxes in. Something like...
> > >
> > > openjpa/site
> > > openjpa/trunk
> > > openjpa/tags
> > > openjpa/branches
> > > openjpa/sandboxes
> > >
> > > Then, when we get to the position of having official releases and
> > fixpacks,
> > > we can use the tags and branches subdirectories to store these.
> > >
> > > We could use the "sandboxes" directory to store the development
> > sandboxes
> > > without cluttering up the root.
> > >
> > > That's my idea anyway...
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > On 8/31/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > IIUC, any committer can create a sandbox by using the svn copy
> > > > command. e.g.
> > > >
> > > > svn copy https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/trunk/
> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandbox
> > > >
> > > > You can then merge back from the sandbox (I'm not really able to give
> > > > you details here...)
> > > >
> > > > If this doesn't work for you, I'll be happy to give it a try. Let me
> > > > know.
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > >
> > > > On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > +1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, to find the right person....
> > > > >
> > > > > -Patrick
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Patrick Linskey
> > > > > BEA Systems, Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
> > > > >> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > > >> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at
> > other
> > > > >> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
> > > > >> "branches",
> > > > >> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
> > > > >> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
> > > > >> authority. Who
> > > > >> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
> > > > >> should we have
> > > > >> them create?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with
> > > > >> svn
> > > > >> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
> > > > >> minimum. If
> > > > >> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
> > > > >> OpenJPA, then we
> > > > >> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox
> > > > >> development
> > > > >> branches.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> Kevin
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for
> > the
> > > > >>> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
> > > > >> of Abe's changes
> > > > >>> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
> > > > >> create this branch in
> > > > >>> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
> > > > >> with creating the
> > > > >>> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
> > > > >> create the OPENJPA-24
> > > > >>> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
> > > > >> didn't think that was
> > > > >>> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
> > > > >> allowed to use
> > > > >>> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
> > > > >>> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
> > > > >> If we agree,
> > > > >>> could someone with enough authority create the branches
> > > > >> folder so that we
> > > > >>> have a place to put them?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thanks!
> > > > >>> Kevin
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > > > > _
> > > > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may
> > > > > contain
> > > > > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and
> > > > > affiliated
> > > > > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted
> > > > > and/or
> > > > > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the
> > > > > individual
> > > > > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended
> > > > > recipient,
> > > > > and have received this message in error, please immediately return
> > > > > this
> > > > > by email and then delete it.
> > > >
> > > > Craig Russell
> > > > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> > > > 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> > > > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Eddie,
You have the power! I just created a development sandbox and placed in the
newly created directory. Worked like a charm.
Maybe I'm just not doing it right. How did you create the directory? I was
trying to "create it" when I was creating the branch via svn. I got an
error back that said I didn't have permissions. And, then I tried creating
an empty folder via the svn perspective in Eclipse and I got the same
permission error. Did you ssh to the svn repository and create the folder
that way? Just curious.
Thanks again!
Kevin
On 8/31/06, Eddie O'Neil <ek...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Kevin--
>
> Not sure what's up with your permissions (if it even is that...),
> but I just created a sandboxes/ line here:
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandboxes/
>
> See if you're able to commit a file there and then try copying the trunk/
> line.
>
> Eddie
>
>
>
> On 8/31/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Craig,
> > You are correct. I can create a sandbox at the same level as "trunk",
> just
> > like your example showed. But, I don't think we want to create them at
> the
> > "trunk" level. I would think we would want a separate directory
> structure
> > to place the sandboxes in. Something like...
> >
> > openjpa/site
> > openjpa/trunk
> > openjpa/tags
> > openjpa/branches
> > openjpa/sandboxes
> >
> > Then, when we get to the position of having official releases and
> fixpacks,
> > we can use the tags and branches subdirectories to store these.
> >
> > We could use the "sandboxes" directory to store the development
> sandboxes
> > without cluttering up the root.
> >
> > That's my idea anyway...
> > Kevin
> >
> > On 8/31/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > IIUC, any committer can create a sandbox by using the svn copy
> > > command. e.g.
> > >
> > > svn copy https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/trunk/
> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandbox
> > >
> > > You can then merge back from the sandbox (I'm not really able to give
> > > you details here...)
> > >
> > > If this doesn't work for you, I'll be happy to give it a try. Let me
> > > know.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
> > >
> > > > +1.
> > > >
> > > > Now, to find the right person....
> > > >
> > > > -Patrick
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Patrick Linskey
> > > > BEA Systems, Inc.
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
> > > >> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
> > > >>
> > > >> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at
> other
> > > >> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
> > > >> "branches",
> > > >> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
> > > >> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
> > > >> authority. Who
> > > >> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
> > > >> should we have
> > > >> them create?
> > > >>
> > > >> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with
> > > >> svn
> > > >> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
> > > >> minimum. If
> > > >> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
> > > >> OpenJPA, then we
> > > >> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox
> > > >> development
> > > >> branches.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Kevin
> > > >>
> > > >> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for
> the
> > > >>> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
> > > >> of Abe's changes
> > > >>> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
> > > >> create this branch in
> > > >>> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
> > > >> with creating the
> > > >>> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
> > > >> create the OPENJPA-24
> > > >>> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
> > > >> didn't think that was
> > > >>> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
> > > >> allowed to use
> > > >>> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
> > > >>> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
> > > >> If we agree,
> > > >>> could someone with enough authority create the branches
> > > >> folder so that we
> > > >>> have a place to put them?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks!
> > > >>> Kevin
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> ______________________________________________________________________
> > > > _
> > > > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may
> > > > contain
> > > > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and
> > > > affiliated
> > > > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted
> > > > and/or
> > > > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the
> > > > individual
> > > > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended
> > > > recipient,
> > > > and have received this message in error, please immediately return
> > > > this
> > > > by email and then delete it.
> > >
> > > Craig Russell
> > > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> > > 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> > > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Eddie O'Neil <ek...@gmail.com>.
Kevin--
Not sure what's up with your permissions (if it even is that...),
but I just created a sandboxes/ line here:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandboxes/
See if you're able to commit a file there and then try copying the trunk/ line.
Eddie
On 8/31/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Craig,
> You are correct. I can create a sandbox at the same level as "trunk", just
> like your example showed. But, I don't think we want to create them at the
> "trunk" level. I would think we would want a separate directory structure
> to place the sandboxes in. Something like...
>
> openjpa/site
> openjpa/trunk
> openjpa/tags
> openjpa/branches
> openjpa/sandboxes
>
> Then, when we get to the position of having official releases and fixpacks,
> we can use the tags and branches subdirectories to store these.
>
> We could use the "sandboxes" directory to store the development sandboxes
> without cluttering up the root.
>
> That's my idea anyway...
> Kevin
>
> On 8/31/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
> >
> > IIUC, any committer can create a sandbox by using the svn copy
> > command. e.g.
> >
> > svn copy https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/trunk/
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandbox
> >
> > You can then merge back from the sandbox (I'm not really able to give
> > you details here...)
> >
> > If this doesn't work for you, I'll be happy to give it a try. Let me
> > know.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
> >
> > > +1.
> > >
> > > Now, to find the right person....
> > >
> > > -Patrick
> > >
> > > --
> > > Patrick Linskey
> > > BEA Systems, Inc.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
> > >> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
> > >>
> > >> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at other
> > >> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
> > >> "branches",
> > >> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
> > >> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
> > >> authority. Who
> > >> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
> > >> should we have
> > >> them create?
> > >>
> > >> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with
> > >> svn
> > >> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
> > >> minimum. If
> > >> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
> > >> OpenJPA, then we
> > >> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox
> > >> development
> > >> branches.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Kevin
> > >>
> > >> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for the
> > >>> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
> > >> of Abe's changes
> > >>> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
> > >> create this branch in
> > >>> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
> > >> with creating the
> > >>> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
> > >> create the OPENJPA-24
> > >>> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
> > >> didn't think that was
> > >>> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
> > >>>
> > >>> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
> > >> allowed to use
> > >>> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
> > >>> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
> > >> If we agree,
> > >>> could someone with enough authority create the branches
> > >> folder so that we
> > >>> have a place to put them?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks!
> > >>> Kevin
> > >>>
> > >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Craig,
You are correct. I can create a sandbox at the same level as "trunk", just
like your example showed. But, I don't think we want to create them at the
"trunk" level. I would think we would want a separate directory structure
to place the sandboxes in. Something like...
openjpa/site
openjpa/trunk
openjpa/tags
openjpa/branches
openjpa/sandboxes
Then, when we get to the position of having official releases and fixpacks,
we can use the tags and branches subdirectories to store these.
We could use the "sandboxes" directory to store the development sandboxes
without cluttering up the root.
That's my idea anyway...
Kevin
On 8/31/06, Craig L Russell <Cr...@sun.com> wrote:
>
> IIUC, any committer can create a sandbox by using the svn copy
> command. e.g.
>
> svn copy https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/trunk/
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandbox
>
> You can then merge back from the sandbox (I'm not really able to give
> you details here...)
>
> If this doesn't work for you, I'll be happy to give it a try. Let me
> know.
>
> Craig
>
> On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
>
> > +1.
> >
> > Now, to find the right person....
> >
> > -Patrick
> >
> > --
> > Patrick Linskey
> > BEA Systems, Inc.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
> >> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
> >>
> >> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at other
> >> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
> >> "branches",
> >> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
> >> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
> >> authority. Who
> >> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
> >> should we have
> >> them create?
> >>
> >> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with
> >> svn
> >> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
> >> minimum. If
> >> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
> >> OpenJPA, then we
> >> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox
> >> development
> >> branches.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for the
> >>> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
> >> of Abe's changes
> >>> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
> >> create this branch in
> >>> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
> >> with creating the
> >>> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
> >> create the OPENJPA-24
> >>> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
> >> didn't think that was
> >>> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
> >>>
> >>> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
> >> allowed to use
> >>> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
> >>> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
> >> If we agree,
> >>> could someone with enough authority create the branches
> >> folder so that we
> >>> have a place to put them?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > _
> > Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may
> > contain
> > information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and
> > affiliated
> > entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted
> > and/or
> > legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the
> > individual
> > or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended
> > recipient,
> > and have received this message in error, please immediately return
> > this
> > by email and then delete it.
>
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
>
>
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
IIUC, any committer can create a sandbox by using the svn copy
command. e.g.
svn copy https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/trunk/
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openjpa/sandbox
You can then merge back from the sandbox (I'm not really able to give
you details here...)
If this doesn't work for you, I'll be happy to give it a try. Let me
know.
Craig
On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
> +1.
>
> Now, to find the right person....
>
> -Patrick
>
> --
> Patrick Linskey
> BEA Systems, Inc.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
>> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
>>
>> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at other
>> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
>> "branches",
>> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
>> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
>> authority. Who
>> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
>> should we have
>> them create?
>>
>> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with
>> svn
>> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
>> minimum. If
>> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
>> OpenJPA, then we
>> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox
>> development
>> branches.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>>
>> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for the
>>> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
>> of Abe's changes
>>> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
>> create this branch in
>>> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
>> with creating the
>>> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
>> create the OPENJPA-24
>>> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
>> didn't think that was
>>> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
>>>
>>> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
>> allowed to use
>>> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
>>> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
>> If we agree,
>>> could someone with enough authority create the branches
>> folder so that we
>>> have a place to put them?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>
> ______________________________________________________________________
> _
> Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may
> contain
> information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and
> affiliated
> entities, that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted
> and/or
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> individual
> or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended
> recipient,
> and have received this message in error, please immediately return
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> by email and then delete it.
Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
RE: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Patrick Linskey <pl...@bea.com>.
+1.
Now, to find the right person....
-Patrick
--
Patrick Linskey
BEA Systems, Inc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Sutter [mailto:kwsutter@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:50 PM
> To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Creating sandbox branches
>
> Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at other
> incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using
> "branches",
> others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
> branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper
> authority. Who
> does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what
> should we have
> them create?
>
> We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with svn
> practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a
> minimum. If
> we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of
> OpenJPA, then we
> should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox development
> branches.
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for the
> > OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some
> of Abe's changes
> > were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to
> create this branch in
> > a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error
> with creating the
> > directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to
> create the OPENJPA-24
> > branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I
> didn't think that was
> > appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
> >
> > So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be
> allowed to use
> > these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
> > collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox.
> If we agree,
> > could someone with enough authority create the branches
> folder so that we
> > have a place to put them?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Kevin
> >
>
_______________________________________________________________________
Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may contain
information of BEA Systems, Inc., its subsidiaries and affiliated
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legally privileged, and is intended solely for the use of the individual
or entity named in this message. If you are not the intended recipient,
and have received this message in error, please immediately return this
by email and then delete it.
Re: Creating sandbox branches
Posted by Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com>.
Still looking for some response to this request... Looking at other
incubator projects, some are using "sandbox", some are using "branches",
others don't seem to have an alternate folder for misc development
branches. I would create the folders if I had the proper authority. Who
does have the authority? And, when we find that person, what should we have
them create?
We already have "site" and "trunk". I think to be consistent with svn
practices, we should have a "branches" and "tags" folder at a minimum. If
we want to keep "branches" pristine for real versions of OpenJPA, then we
should also create a "sandbox" folder to house any sandbox development
branches.
Thanks,
Kevin
On 8/22/06, Kevin Sutter <kw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> You've probably noticed that I attempted to create a branch for the
> OPENJPA-24 work (I've been busy with a conference and some of Abe's changes
> were starting to overlap..). But, when I attempted to create this branch in
> a "branches" subdirectory, I got an authentication error with creating the
> directory. As you probably noticed, I was allowed to create the OPENJPA-24
> branch at the root level (same level as trunk), but I didn't think that was
> appropriate. (I deleted that one.)
>
> So, what's the scoop with sandbox branches? Should we be allowed to use
> these? I hope so, since this provides a nice way of sharing and
> collaborating on changes that are bigger than a breadbox. If we agree,
> could someone with enough authority create the branches folder so that we
> have a place to put them?
>
> Thanks!
> Kevin
>