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Posted to dev@tika.apache.org by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> on 2024/08/21 16:30:10 UTC

3.0.0 release?

All,

  There are a couple of items documented on
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to take care
of before the 3.0.0 release.

  I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus, and I
can try to deal with javadocs.

  Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other blockers
not listed on that issue?

  Thank you!

           Best,

                Tim

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
Does cxf use anything but tika-core aside from in a "test" context? Not
sure it matters if it does?

https://github.com/apache/cxf/blob/main/rt/rs/extensions/search/pom.xml#L95

On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 2:19 PM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> Y, at least in tika-server and some of the other modules that use it as a
> web client (tika-parser-nlp, advanced-media, lang-detects, translate,
> transcribe tika-eval-core (?!?!?)
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 1:19 PM Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>
> wrote:
>
>> This is weird...  Tika itself depends on Apache CXF, it currently uses
>> 4.0.5.
>>
>> I couldn't believe it but then I looked
>> https://github.com/apache/cxf/blob/main/parent/pom.xml and it's true...
>> a search finds more:
>> https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aapache%2Fcxf%20tika&type=code
>>
>> Tilman
>>
>> On 24.09.2024 15:29, Gary D. Gregory wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0 depends
>> on 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
>> appreciated.
>> >
>> > TY!
>> > Gary
>> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
>> >
>> > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
>> >> I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika grpc.
>> >> Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> All,
>> >>>
>> >>>    There are a couple of items documented on
>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to
>> take
>> >>> care
>> >>> of before the 3.0.0 release.
>> >>>
>> >>>    I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus,
>> and I
>> >>> can try to deal with javadocs.
>> >>>
>> >>>    Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other
>> blockers
>> >>> not listed on that issue?
>> >>>
>> >>>    Thank you!
>> >>>
>> >>>             Best,
>> >>>
>> >>>                  Tim
>> >>>
>>
>>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
Y, at least in tika-server and some of the other modules that use it as a
web client (tika-parser-nlp, advanced-media, lang-detects, translate,
transcribe tika-eval-core (?!?!?)

On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 1:19 PM Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>
wrote:

> This is weird...  Tika itself depends on Apache CXF, it currently uses
> 4.0.5.
>
> I couldn't believe it but then I looked
> https://github.com/apache/cxf/blob/main/parent/pom.xml and it's true...
> a search finds more:
> https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aapache%2Fcxf%20tika&type=code
>
> Tilman
>
> On 24.09.2024 15:29, Gary D. Gregory wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0 depends
> on 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
> appreciated.
> >
> > TY!
> > Gary
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
> >
> > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
> >> I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika grpc.
> >> Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>>    There are a couple of items documented on
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to take
> >>> care
> >>> of before the 3.0.0 release.
> >>>
> >>>    I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus,
> and I
> >>> can try to deal with javadocs.
> >>>
> >>>    Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other
> blockers
> >>> not listed on that issue?
> >>>
> >>>    Thank you!
> >>>
> >>>             Best,
> >>>
> >>>                  Tim
> >>>
>
>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>.
This is weird...  Tika itself depends on Apache CXF, it currently uses 
4.0.5.

I couldn't believe it but then I looked 
https://github.com/apache/cxf/blob/main/parent/pom.xml and it's true... 
a search finds more:
https://github.com/search?q=repo%3Aapache%2Fcxf%20tika&type=code

Tilman

On 24.09.2024 15:29, Gary D. Gregory wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0 depends on 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be appreciated.
>
> TY!
> Gary
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
>
> On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
>> I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika grpc.
>> Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>>    There are a couple of items documented on
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to take
>>> care
>>> of before the 3.0.0 release.
>>>
>>>    I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus, and I
>>> can try to deal with javadocs.
>>>
>>>    Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other blockers
>>> not listed on that issue?
>>>
>>>    Thank you!
>>>
>>>             Best,
>>>
>>>                  Tim
>>>


Tika Roadmap 2.x, 3.x and beyond

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
All,
  I created a wiki page for the proposed roadmap:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TIKA/Tika+Roadmap+--+2.x%2C+3.x+and+Beyond
  If there are any objections or alternate proposals to my initial
proposal, please discuss those objections on the user/dev lists.
  Thank you, all!

       Cheers,

            Tim

Tika Roadmap 2.x, 3.x and beyond

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
All,
  I created a wiki page for the proposed roadmap:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TIKA/Tika+Roadmap+--+2.x%2C+3.x+and+Beyond
  If there are any objections or alternate proposals to my initial
proposal, please discuss those objections on the user/dev lists.
  Thank you, all!

       Cheers,

            Tim

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
With help from Tilman, I think we're all set on the TextCSVParser
regression. Any other blockers on 3.0.0?

Any objections to the basic plan below?

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 7:03 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> Regression results are available:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280?focusedCommentId=17888235&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-17888235
>
> I heard one off-list +1, and no -1s publicly or privately. Please let me
> know if anyone has any misgivings about the following plan.
>
> On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 10:05 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>>   In looking at my schedule and thinking about the project more broadly,
>> I'm worried that moving pipes to its own module in Tika 3.x after we've had
>> two beta releases might be a large step. What would you think about this
>> timeline:
>>
>> Oct 2024 -- Release 3.0.0 (after regression tests and fixes and with
>> warnings about upcoming changes in tika-pipes in 4.x)
>> Oct 2024 -- move main branch to 4.x (and Java 17) and move tika-pipes to
>> its own module or create a standalone tika-pipes project
>> ??? -- start 4.0.0-BETA releases ASAP
>> April 2025 (6 months from 3.x release) -- end support for 2.x (and
>> thereby Java 8)
>> April 2025 (6 months from Oct 2024 or earlier???) -- release 4.0.0
>> Oct 2025 (one year from 3.x release) -- end support for 3.x (and thereby
>> Java 11)
>>
>> I realize that even dependency maintenance on three concurrent branches
>> will be burdensome. Perhaps we fallback to "update dependencies before a
>> release and before the regression tests" at least on the 2.x and 3.x
>> branches?
>>
>> What do you all think? Many thanks!
>>
>>      Best,
>>
>>                 Tim
>>
>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
Regression results are available:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280?focusedCommentId=17888235&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-17888235

I heard one off-list +1, and no -1s publicly or privately. Please let me
know if anyone has any misgivings about the following plan.

On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 10:05 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> All,
>
>   In looking at my schedule and thinking about the project more broadly,
> I'm worried that moving pipes to its own module in Tika 3.x after we've had
> two beta releases might be a large step. What would you think about this
> timeline:
>
> Oct 2024 -- Release 3.0.0 (after regression tests and fixes and with
> warnings about upcoming changes in tika-pipes in 4.x)
> Oct 2024 -- move main branch to 4.x (and Java 17) and move tika-pipes to
> its own module or create a standalone tika-pipes project
> ??? -- start 4.0.0-BETA releases ASAP
> April 2025 (6 months from Oct 2024) -- end support for 2.x (and thereby
> Java 8)
> April 2025 (6 months from Oct 2024 or earlier???) -- release 4.0.0
> Oct 2025 -- end support for 3.x (and thereby Java 11)
>
> I realize that even dependency maintenance on three concurrent branches
> will be burdensome. Perhaps we fallback to "update dependencies before a
> release and before the regression tests" at least on the 2.x and 3.x
> branches?
>
> What do you all think? Many thanks!
>
>      Best,
>
>                 Tim
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 10:39 AM Nicholas DiPiazza <
> nicholas.dipiazza@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am going to do my best to remove pipes from Tika tonight and put all
>> the code in the new repo. I have all night set aside for it.
>>
>> Conference call yes I can make that work if you want to communicate that
>> way.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 8:56 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Nicholas and fellow devs,
>>>   I'm happy to set up a telecon if you'd like to discuss. I'm sorry that
>>> I can't do the significant refactoring of tika-pipes in as timely manner as
>>> I had hoped. :/
>>> I think getting 3.x out and then turning to this in 4.x makes sense, but
>>> I definitely welcome discussion and progress however we can make it.
>>>   Thank you.
>>>
>>>             Best,
>>>
>>>                  Tim
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 2:20 PM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For 3.x, I think it might be. For 4.x, I think we should aim in that
>>>> direction. What do others think?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:33 PM Nicholas DiPiazza <
>>>> nicholas.dipiazza@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I feel like what I might want to do is remove pipes from Tika
>>>>> completely
>>>>> and create a second repository I've already done a lot of the work in
>>>>> my
>>>>> local workspace but I have a bunch more to go
>>>>>
>>>>> Does that sound like crazy talk?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 10:02 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > @Nicholas DiPiazza <nd...@apache.org>
>>>>> > I don't think I'll have time to refactor tika-pipes out of tika-core
>>>>> before
>>>>> > the 3.x release. Is there an MVP we can do to get grpc working so
>>>>> that we
>>>>> > can release 3.x?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > All,
>>>>> >   Any blockers beyond the regression tests (and grpc)?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >       Best,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >               Tim
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:30 AM Gary D. Gregory <ggregory@apache.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Hi All,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0
>>>>> depends
>>>>> > on
>>>>> > > 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
>>>>> > > appreciated.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > TY!
>>>>> > > Gary
>>>>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
>>>>> > > > I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika
>>>>> grpc.
>>>>> > > > Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > > All,
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >   There are a couple of items documented on
>>>>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we
>>>>> wanted to
>>>>> > take
>>>>> > > > > care
>>>>> > > > > of before the 3.0.0 release.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression
>>>>> corpus,
>>>>> > > and I
>>>>> > > > > can try to deal with javadocs.
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any
>>>>> other
>>>>> > > blockers
>>>>> > > > > not listed on that issue?
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >   Thank you!
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >            Best,
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > > >                 Tim
>>>>> > > > >
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
Y, I completely agree about the surprises. I don't want to dump more
work on you. :D

On Tue, Oct 15, 2024 at 8:51 AM Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> On 08.10.2024 16:05, Tim Allison wrote:
> > I realize that even dependency maintenance on three concurrent branches
> > will be burdensome. Perhaps we fallback to "update dependencies before a
> > release and before the regression tests" at least on the 2.x and 3.x
> > branches?
>
> It wasn't burdensome for me, I've usually done this while watching TV.
> Doing it only once before the release could mean nasty surprises at the
> wrong moment.
>
> Tilman
>
>
>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tilman Hausherr <TH...@t-online.de>.
On 08.10.2024 16:05, Tim Allison wrote:
> I realize that even dependency maintenance on three concurrent branches
> will be burdensome. Perhaps we fallback to "update dependencies before a
> release and before the regression tests" at least on the 2.x and 3.x
> branches?

It wasn't burdensome for me, I've usually done this while watching TV. 
Doing it only once before the release could mean nasty surprises at the 
wrong moment.

Tilman




Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
All,

  In looking at my schedule and thinking about the project more broadly,
I'm worried that moving pipes to its own module in Tika 3.x after we've had
two beta releases might be a large step. What would you think about this
timeline:

Oct 2024 -- Release 3.0.0 (after regression tests and fixes and with
warnings about upcoming changes in tika-pipes in 4.x)
Oct 2024 -- move main branch to 4.x (and Java 17) and move tika-pipes to
its own module or create a standalone tika-pipes project
??? -- start 4.0.0-BETA releases ASAP
April 2025 (6 months from Oct 2024) -- end support for 2.x (and thereby
Java 8)
April 2025 (6 months from Oct 2024 or earlier???) -- release 4.0.0
Oct 2025 -- end support for 3.x (and thereby Java 11)

I realize that even dependency maintenance on three concurrent branches
will be burdensome. Perhaps we fallback to "update dependencies before a
release and before the regression tests" at least on the 2.x and 3.x
branches?

What do you all think? Many thanks!

     Best,

                Tim


On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 10:39 AM Nicholas DiPiazza <
nicholas.dipiazza@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am going to do my best to remove pipes from Tika tonight and put all the
> code in the new repo. I have all night set aside for it.
>
> Conference call yes I can make that work if you want to communicate that
> way.
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 8:56 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Nicholas and fellow devs,
>>   I'm happy to set up a telecon if you'd like to discuss. I'm sorry that
>> I can't do the significant refactoring of tika-pipes in as timely manner as
>> I had hoped. :/
>> I think getting 3.x out and then turning to this in 4.x makes sense, but
>> I definitely welcome discussion and progress however we can make it.
>>   Thank you.
>>
>>             Best,
>>
>>                  Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 2:20 PM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> For 3.x, I think it might be. For 4.x, I think we should aim in that
>>> direction. What do others think?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:33 PM Nicholas DiPiazza <
>>> nicholas.dipiazza@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel like what I might want to do is remove pipes from Tika completely
>>>> and create a second repository I've already done a lot of the work in my
>>>> local workspace but I have a bunch more to go
>>>>
>>>> Does that sound like crazy talk?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 10:02 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > @Nicholas DiPiazza <nd...@apache.org>
>>>> > I don't think I'll have time to refactor tika-pipes out of tika-core
>>>> before
>>>> > the 3.x release. Is there an MVP we can do to get grpc working so
>>>> that we
>>>> > can release 3.x?
>>>> >
>>>> > All,
>>>> >   Any blockers beyond the regression tests (and grpc)?
>>>> >
>>>> >       Best,
>>>> >
>>>> >               Tim
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:30 AM Gary D. Gregory <gg...@apache.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi All,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0
>>>> depends
>>>> > on
>>>> > > 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
>>>> > > appreciated.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > TY!
>>>> > > Gary
>>>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
>>>> > > > I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika
>>>> grpc.
>>>> > > > Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > > All,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >   There are a couple of items documented on
>>>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted
>>>> to
>>>> > take
>>>> > > > > care
>>>> > > > > of before the 3.0.0 release.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression
>>>> corpus,
>>>> > > and I
>>>> > > > > can try to deal with javadocs.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any
>>>> other
>>>> > > blockers
>>>> > > > > not listed on that issue?
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >   Thank you!
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >            Best,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >                 Tim
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Nicholas DiPiazza <ni...@gmail.com>.
I am going to do my best to remove pipes from Tika tonight and put all the
code in the new repo. I have all night set aside for it.

Conference call yes I can make that work if you want to communicate that
way.

On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 8:56 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> Nicholas and fellow devs,
>   I'm happy to set up a telecon if you'd like to discuss. I'm sorry that I
> can't do the significant refactoring of tika-pipes in as timely manner as I
> had hoped. :/
> I think getting 3.x out and then turning to this in 4.x makes sense, but I
> definitely welcome discussion and progress however we can make it.
>   Thank you.
>
>             Best,
>
>                  Tim
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 2:20 PM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> For 3.x, I think it might be. For 4.x, I think we should aim in that
>> direction. What do others think?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:33 PM Nicholas DiPiazza <
>> nicholas.dipiazza@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I feel like what I might want to do is remove pipes from Tika completely
>>> and create a second repository I've already done a lot of the work in my
>>> local workspace but I have a bunch more to go
>>>
>>> Does that sound like crazy talk?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 10:02 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> > @Nicholas DiPiazza <nd...@apache.org>
>>> > I don't think I'll have time to refactor tika-pipes out of tika-core
>>> before
>>> > the 3.x release. Is there an MVP we can do to get grpc working so that
>>> we
>>> > can release 3.x?
>>> >
>>> > All,
>>> >   Any blockers beyond the regression tests (and grpc)?
>>> >
>>> >       Best,
>>> >
>>> >               Tim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:30 AM Gary D. Gregory <gg...@apache.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi All,
>>> > >
>>> > > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0
>>> depends
>>> > on
>>> > > 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
>>> > > appreciated.
>>> > >
>>> > > TY!
>>> > > Gary
>>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
>>> > >
>>> > > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
>>> > > > I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika
>>> grpc.
>>> > > > Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
>>> > > >
>>> > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > All,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >   There are a couple of items documented on
>>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted
>>> to
>>> > take
>>> > > > > care
>>> > > > > of before the 3.0.0 release.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression
>>> corpus,
>>> > > and I
>>> > > > > can try to deal with javadocs.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any
>>> other
>>> > > blockers
>>> > > > > not listed on that issue?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >   Thank you!
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >            Best,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >                 Tim
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
Nicholas and fellow devs,
  I'm happy to set up a telecon if you'd like to discuss. I'm sorry that I
can't do the significant refactoring of tika-pipes in as timely manner as I
had hoped. :/
I think getting 3.x out and then turning to this in 4.x makes sense, but I
definitely welcome discussion and progress however we can make it.
  Thank you.

            Best,

                 Tim

On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 2:20 PM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> For 3.x, I think it might be. For 4.x, I think we should aim in that
> direction. What do others think?
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:33 PM Nicholas DiPiazza <
> nicholas.dipiazza@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I feel like what I might want to do is remove pipes from Tika completely
>> and create a second repository I've already done a lot of the work in my
>> local workspace but I have a bunch more to go
>>
>> Does that sound like crazy talk?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 10:02 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > @Nicholas DiPiazza <nd...@apache.org>
>> > I don't think I'll have time to refactor tika-pipes out of tika-core
>> before
>> > the 3.x release. Is there an MVP we can do to get grpc working so that
>> we
>> > can release 3.x?
>> >
>> > All,
>> >   Any blockers beyond the regression tests (and grpc)?
>> >
>> >       Best,
>> >
>> >               Tim
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:30 AM Gary D. Gregory <gg...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi All,
>> > >
>> > > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0
>> depends
>> > on
>> > > 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
>> > > appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > TY!
>> > > Gary
>> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
>> > >
>> > > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
>> > > > I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika
>> grpc.
>> > > > Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
>> > > >
>> > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > All,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >   There are a couple of items documented on
>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to
>> > take
>> > > > > care
>> > > > > of before the 3.0.0 release.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression
>> corpus,
>> > > and I
>> > > > > can try to deal with javadocs.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other
>> > > blockers
>> > > > > not listed on that issue?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >   Thank you!
>> > > > >
>> > > > >            Best,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >                 Tim
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
For 3.x, I think it might be. For 4.x, I think we should aim in that
direction. What do others think?

On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 12:33 PM Nicholas DiPiazza <
nicholas.dipiazza@gmail.com> wrote:

> I feel like what I might want to do is remove pipes from Tika completely
> and create a second repository I've already done a lot of the work in my
> local workspace but I have a bunch more to go
>
> Does that sound like crazy talk?
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 10:02 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > @Nicholas DiPiazza <nd...@apache.org>
> > I don't think I'll have time to refactor tika-pipes out of tika-core
> before
> > the 3.x release. Is there an MVP we can do to get grpc working so that we
> > can release 3.x?
> >
> > All,
> >   Any blockers beyond the regression tests (and grpc)?
> >
> >       Best,
> >
> >               Tim
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:30 AM Gary D. Gregory <gg...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0 depends
> > on
> > > 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > TY!
> > > Gary
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
> > >
> > > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
> > > > I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika
> grpc.
> > > > Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > All,
> > > > >
> > > > >   There are a couple of items documented on
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to
> > take
> > > > > care
> > > > > of before the 3.0.0 release.
> > > > >
> > > > >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus,
> > > and I
> > > > > can try to deal with javadocs.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other
> > > blockers
> > > > > not listed on that issue?
> > > > >
> > > > >   Thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > >            Best,
> > > > >
> > > > >                 Tim
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Nicholas DiPiazza <ni...@gmail.com>.
I feel like what I might want to do is remove pipes from Tika completely
and create a second repository I've already done a lot of the work in my
local workspace but I have a bunch more to go

Does that sound like crazy talk?

On Tue, Sep 24, 2024, 10:02 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> @Nicholas DiPiazza <nd...@apache.org>
> I don't think I'll have time to refactor tika-pipes out of tika-core before
> the 3.x release. Is there an MVP we can do to get grpc working so that we
> can release 3.x?
>
> All,
>   Any blockers beyond the regression tests (and grpc)?
>
>       Best,
>
>               Tim
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:30 AM Gary D. Gregory <gg...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0 depends
> on
> > 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > TY!
> > Gary
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
> >
> > On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
> > > I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika grpc.
> > > Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > >   There are a couple of items documented on
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to
> take
> > > > care
> > > > of before the 3.0.0 release.
> > > >
> > > >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus,
> > and I
> > > > can try to deal with javadocs.
> > > >
> > > >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other
> > blockers
> > > > not listed on that issue?
> > > >
> > > >   Thank you!
> > > >
> > > >            Best,
> > > >
> > > >                 Tim
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org>.
@Nicholas DiPiazza <nd...@apache.org>
I don't think I'll have time to refactor tika-pipes out of tika-core before
the 3.x release. Is there an MVP we can do to get grpc working so that we
can release 3.x?

All,
  Any blockers beyond the regression tests (and grpc)?

      Best,

              Tim


On Tue, Sep 24, 2024 at 9:30 AM Gary D. Gregory <gg...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0 depends on
> 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be
> appreciated.
>
> TY!
> Gary
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671
>
> On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
> > I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika grpc.
> > Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > >   There are a couple of items documented on
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to take
> > > care
> > > of before the 3.0.0 release.
> > >
> > >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus,
> and I
> > > can try to deal with javadocs.
> > >
> > >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other
> blockers
> > > not listed on that issue?
> > >
> > >   Thank you!
> > >
> > >            Best,
> > >
> > >                 Tim
> > >
> >
>

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by "Gary D. Gregory" <gg...@apache.org>.
Hi All,

Is there a time frame for 3.0.0? It looks like Apache CXF 4.1.0 depends on 3.0.0 [1] and I'm waiting on CXF 4.1.0... Any guidance would be appreciated. 

TY!
Gary
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-8671

On 2024/08/21 17:08:22 Nicholas DiPiazza wrote:
> I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika grpc.
> Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far
> 
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > All,
> >
> >   There are a couple of items documented on
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to take
> > care
> > of before the 3.0.0 release.
> >
> >   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus, and I
> > can try to deal with javadocs.
> >
> >   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other blockers
> > not listed on that issue?
> >
> >   Thank you!
> >
> >            Best,
> >
> >                 Tim
> >
> 

Re: 3.0.0 release?

Posted by Nicholas DiPiazza <ni...@gmail.com>.
I have a pull request for some class path loading fixes for Tika grpc.
Hoping to get that done today but it's a struggle so far

On Wed, Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM Tim Allison <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> All,
>
>   There are a couple of items documented on
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TIKA-4280 that we wanted to take
> care
> of before the 3.0.0 release.
>
>   I can run a comparison btwn 2.x and 3.x on our regression corpus, and I
> can try to deal with javadocs.
>
>   Any recs on how to wrap up the other issues? Are there any other blockers
> not listed on that issue?
>
>   Thank you!
>
>            Best,
>
>                 Tim
>