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Posted to community@apache.org by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> on 2002/10/27 02:30:10 UTC

Dear incubator

Dear incubator,

I feel like I'm speaking to the wizard of Oz posting to a list I can't 
see ;-)

Tapestry (tapestry.sourceforge.net) is a web app framework similar in 
use and scope to Velocity/turbine and JSP/Struts, but certainly very 
different in approach.

dIon Gillard and I have both agreed to help with the transition.  However we both feel the first step is for the tapestry community (to whom's mail list I am now subscribed) to adopt apache voting rules (http://httpd.apache.org/dev/guidelines.html) before joining.  once they've demonstrated this transition and identified 3 core committers, we should identify whether they go through some new process or identify the new incubator process.  Whatever the case they should not be unduely lubricated through the guidelines, nor unduely inhibited by the transition.  I think we're all up to this challenge and this could (hopefully) set a very nice precident.

To this end and to the ends of providing more interaction between the various elements here at apache, I would like to suggest Ken Coar whom I have approached as the "member sponsor" and "advisor" of the project and has stated his interest.  His experience and abillities will be an asset to this transition as well as provide greater insight to the rest of the Apache community on the goings on of a Java/Jakarta project.

I'd like to start a conversation on what the process/guidelines for accepting Tapestry should be at the same time and what its path for acceptance as either a Jakarta project or top level apache project should be.

I would suggest that this discussion happen on the community at apache list and move to the general at jakarta list if deemed appropriate as dion and I cannot participate in the pmc@incubator list nor can the project principals.

Thanks for your support,

Andrew C. Oliver
committer POI, Lucene
contributer Cocoon, JAMES




Re: Dear incubator

Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
Since the discussion was initiated here on general@jakarta, I'd prefer we 
kept it here until there is a way forward via incubator, rather than move 
it off to yet another list.


--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Work:      http://www.multitask.com.au
Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers


"Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote on 27/10/2002 11:30:10 AM:

> Dear incubator,
> 
> I feel like I'm speaking to the wizard of Oz posting to a list I can't 
> see ;-)
> 
> Tapestry (tapestry.sourceforge.net) is a web app framework similar in 
> use and scope to Velocity/turbine and JSP/Struts, but certainly very 
> different in approach.
> 
> dIon Gillard and I have both agreed to help with the transition. 
> However we both feel the first step is for the tapestry community 
> (to whom's mail list I am now subscribed) to adopt apache voting rules (
> http://httpd.apache.org/dev/guidelines.html) before joining.  once 
> they've demonstrated this transition and identified 3 core 
> committers, we should identify whether they go through some new 
> process or identify the new incubator process.  Whatever the case 
> they should not be unduely lubricated through the guidelines, nor 
> unduely inhibited by the transition.  I think we're all up to this 
> challenge and this could (hopefully) set a very nice precident.
> 
> To this end and to the ends of providing more interaction between 
> the various elements here at apache, I would like to suggest Ken 
> Coar whom I have approached as the "member sponsor" and "advisor" of
> the project and has stated his interest.  His experience and 
> abillities will be an asset to this transition as well as provide 
> greater insight to the rest of the Apache community on the goings on
> of a Java/Jakarta project.
> 
> I'd like to start a conversation on what the process/guidelines for 
> accepting Tapestry should be at the same time and what its path for 
> acceptance as either a Jakarta project or top level apache project 
should be.
> 
> I would suggest that this discussion happen on the community at 
> apache list and move to the general at jakarta list if deemed 
> appropriate as dion and I cannot participate in the pmc@incubator 
> list nor can the project principals.
> 
> Thanks for your support,
> 
> Andrew C. Oliver
> committer POI, Lucene
> contributer Cocoon, JAMES
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Dear incubator

Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
Since the discussion was initiated here on general@jakarta, I'd prefer we 
kept it here until there is a way forward via incubator, rather than move 
it off to yet another list.


--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Work:      http://www.multitask.com.au
Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers


"Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote on 27/10/2002 11:30:10 AM:

> Dear incubator,
> 
> I feel like I'm speaking to the wizard of Oz posting to a list I can't 
> see ;-)
> 
> Tapestry (tapestry.sourceforge.net) is a web app framework similar in 
> use and scope to Velocity/turbine and JSP/Struts, but certainly very 
> different in approach.
> 
> dIon Gillard and I have both agreed to help with the transition. 
> However we both feel the first step is for the tapestry community 
> (to whom's mail list I am now subscribed) to adopt apache voting rules (
> http://httpd.apache.org/dev/guidelines.html) before joining.  once 
> they've demonstrated this transition and identified 3 core 
> committers, we should identify whether they go through some new 
> process or identify the new incubator process.  Whatever the case 
> they should not be unduely lubricated through the guidelines, nor 
> unduely inhibited by the transition.  I think we're all up to this 
> challenge and this could (hopefully) set a very nice precident.
> 
> To this end and to the ends of providing more interaction between 
> the various elements here at apache, I would like to suggest Ken 
> Coar whom I have approached as the "member sponsor" and "advisor" of
> the project and has stated his interest.  His experience and 
> abillities will be an asset to this transition as well as provide 
> greater insight to the rest of the Apache community on the goings on
> of a Java/Jakarta project.
> 
> I'd like to start a conversation on what the process/guidelines for 
> accepting Tapestry should be at the same time and what its path for 
> acceptance as either a Jakarta project or top level apache project 
should be.
> 
> I would suggest that this discussion happen on the community at 
> apache list and move to the general at jakarta list if deemed 
> appropriate as dion and I cannot participate in the pmc@incubator 
> list nor can the project principals.
> 
> Thanks for your support,
> 
> Andrew C. Oliver
> committer POI, Lucene
> contributer Cocoon, JAMES
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: <ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
> For additional commands, e-mail: 
<ma...@jakarta.apache.org>
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