2 pops

["S M.C Butler" <si...@icmethods.com>]

Hi, I would like to have my mail forwarded to my ISP's account and then
popped to my server where I can run spam assassin and finally popped a
second time to my PC. How do I get this 2-level pop mechanism going? How can
I pop from my ISP account to my server in a way that will allow me to do a
second pop from /var/mail/username to my pc

 Thx in advance.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: GRP Productions [mailto:grpprod@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:33 PM
>To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>Subject: Re: Bayes DB does not grow anymore
>
>>That is the output of --dump magic? I haven't ever seen it formatted that
>>nicely. I assume you skipped the first line, but there's also missing the
>>expire atime delta. So, where do you got this from? Not directly from
>>sa-learn
>>--dump magic I'd say. You are running SA thru some interface? You should
>>have
>>said something about the whereabouts of your installation.
>
>You are right, I am using MailWatch. I just posted this output to be easy
>for one to see the actual dates without having to convert. Here is the
>actual output:
>
># /usr/bin/sa-learn -p /opt/MailScanner/etc/spam.assassin.prefs.conf --dump
>magic
>0.000          0          3          0  non-token data: bayes db version
>0.000          0      49740          0  non-token data: nspam
>0.000          0      47167          0  non-token data: nham
>0.000          0     123325          0  non-token data: ntokens
>0.000          0 1107319073          0  non-token data: oldest atime
>0.000          0 1110636450          0  non-token data: newest atime
>0.000          0 1108137790          0  non-token data: last journal sync
>atime
>0.000          0 1108129534          0  non-token data: last expiry atime
>0.000          0     804361          0  non-token data: last expire atime
>delta
>0.000          0       3475          0  non-token data: last expire
>reduction count
>
>>Ok. Get the values. Then learn a message to it. Make sure it says that it
>>actually learned, then check the values again. Is either the spam or ham
>>count
>>increased by one or not?
>
>No it isn't. This is exactly the point I mentioned. But as I said earlier,
>sa-learn claims it has learned, even from the web interface:
>>SA Learn: Learned from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined).
>
>>Ok, this finally looks a bit suspicious. No sync and no expire for a
>month.
>>If
>>it doesn't sync you don't get new tokens. Check in your bayes directory
>how
>>big
>>your bayes_journal is. I'd think it's quite big. Do a sync now. (Please
>>don't
>>do it via an interface, do it on the command line.) What's the output? Is
>>the
>>journal gone and the number of tokens increased now? If so, you need to
>>investigate why it doesn't sync anymore. Also do an expire then.
>
>This is getting more suspicious: there is no bayes_journal file!
>
># ll /var/spool/MailScanner/bayes/
>total 11780
>drwxrwxrwx  2 root nobody     4096 Mar 14 00:22 .
>drwxr-xr-x  4 root nobody     4096 Mar 13 11:55 ..
>-rw-rw-rw-  1 root nobody     1236 Mar 14 00:22 bayes.mutex
>-rw-rw-rw-  1 root nobody 10452992 Mar 14 00:22 bayes_seen
>-rw-rw-rw-  1 root nobody  5509120 Mar 14 00:02 bayes_toks
>
>I can assure you noone has touched anything inside this directory. If this
>is the reason for the problems I've been facing, is there a way to recreate
>the file without having to lose my current data? (perhaps by copying the
>above files somewhere, execute sa-learn --clear and some time later restore
>the above files?)
>
>Thanks for your help
>
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RE: 2 pops

[Matt Kettler <mk...@evi-inc.com>]

At 02:53 PM 3/14/2005, S M.C Butler wrote:
> >1) what does this have to do with the thread "Re: Bayes DB does not grow
> >anymore"?
> >
>
>oops I replied to that mail to get the mailing list address and forgot to
>delete the inline text, sorry about that.

Even if you did remove the inline text, it's still going to show up as a 
reply to that thread... The "In-Reply-To:" header will give you away.. From 
your original post:

>In-Reply-To: <BA...@phx.gbl>

Based on this, any threading mail readers and list archives will burry your 
post as a reply, rather than showing it as a new thread.

Take a look at the GMANE archives for an example of threading:
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general

The big difference in a mail client is that threading mail clients 
generally allow you to collapse threads and you don't see the posts under 
them when collapsed.

When posting a new thread it's really in your best interest to just create 
a new message, and not try to hijack a reply into being something it's not. 

RE: 2 pops

["S M.C Butler" <si...@icmethods.com>]

>
>1) what does this have to do with the thread "Re: Bayes DB does not grow
>anymore"?
>

oops I replied to that mail to get the mailing list address and forgot to
delete the inline text, sorry about that.

>2) man fetchmail

thx, I'll check it out.

Re: 2 pops

[Matt Kettler <mk...@evi-inc.com>]

At 02:20 PM 3/14/2005, S M.C Butler wrote:
>Hi, I would like to have my mail forwarded to my ISP's account and then
>popped to my server where I can run spam assassin and finally popped a
>second time to my PC. How do I get this 2-level pop mechanism going? How can
>I pop from my ISP account to my server in a way that will allow me to do a
>second pop from /var/mail/username to my pc
>
>  Thx in advance.


1) what does this have to do with the thread "Re: Bayes DB does not grow 
anymore"?

2) man fetchmail