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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Ron McKeating <R....@lboro.ac.uk> on 2005/07/15 11:45:17 UTC

Unsubscribing

I am shortly to go on hols for 2 weeks and so was planning to
unsubscribe until I get back. I notice on the web page at
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists

it tells you how to subscribe

Subscription: send mail to users-subscribe -at- spamassassin.apache.org

but does not tell you how to unsubscribe, I would like to suggest that
unsubscribe details be added to the page. I also notice that I seem to
be subscribed to two spamassassin lists, not sure how that happened,
probably user stupidity knowing me. Is there information somewhere else
that tells people how to unsubscribe from the list. Or what would be
better would be a "don't send me any list traffic for 2 weeks" kind of
option.

Well I shall be thinking of you all fighting the good fight as I lay on
the beach sipping brandy sours. Keep up the good work, never give a
spammer and even break I say.

Cheers all

Ron
-- 
Ron McKeating
Senior IT Services Specialist
Computing Services
Loughborough University
01509 222329


Re: Unsubscribing

Posted by Duncan Hill <sa...@nacnud.force9.co.uk>.
On Friday 15 July 2005 12:05, Loren Wilton typed:
> > Is there information somewhere else
> > that tells people how to unsubscribe from the list.
>
> Yes, its hidden in the headers of the messages from the list, where most
> rational people won't think to look.  I guess they did that as a test,
> since this list is supposed to be for mail admin (or at least spam admin)
> types. Rational lists put this sort of thing where people will think to
> look, rather than making it an easter egg hunt.

Several MUAs, including Squirrelmail, will check the headers for the RFC 2369 
entries (standards track since 1998) and update their display appropriately.  
Imo, it beats having footers mangled onto the bottom of every e-mail.  

*shrug*  Horses for courses I guess.

Re: Unsubscribing

Posted by Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>.
> Is there information somewhere else
> that tells people how to unsubscribe from the list.

Yes, its hidden in the headers of the messages from the list, where most
rational people won't think to look.  I guess they did that as a test, since
this list is supposed to be for mail admin (or at least spam admin) types.
Rational lists put this sort of thing where people will think to look,
rather than making it an easter egg hunt.

        Loren


Re: Unsubscribing

Posted by Chris Lear <ch...@laculine.com>.
* Duane Hill wrote (07/15/05 10:49):
> On Friday, July 15, 2005 at 9:45:17 AM, R.J.Mckeating@lboro.ac.uk confabulated:
> 
>> I am shortly to go on hols for 2 weeks and so was planning to
>> unsubscribe until I get back. I notice on the web page at
>> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists
> 
>> it tells you how to subscribe
> 
> And in the headers of all messages to the list state this:
> 
> list-help: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>
> list-unsubscribe: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>
> List-Post: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>

Which helps. The OP's suggestion was...

>> [...] I would like to suggest that
>> unsubscribe details be added to the page.

I think this is a reasonably sensible suggestion.

>> I also notice that I seem to
>> be subscribed to two spamassassin lists, not sure how that happened,

And you seem to have sent mail to both at once, resulting in a
duplicate. I think that spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org is out
of date.

>> probably user stupidity knowing me. Is there information somewhere else
>> that tells people how to unsubscribe from the list.

See the headers (as mentioned above)

--
Chris

Re: Unsubscribing

Posted by Kai Schaetzl <ma...@conactive.com>.
Ron McKeating wrote on Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:08:02 +0100:

> Is my suggestion of 
> having a "don't send me any traffic for x weeks" option viable ?

There are list managers which allow you to indefinitely suspend your 
subscription without unsubscribing, f.i. Mailman. I don't know if ezmlm (I 
think that's what ASF uses deducing from qmail as their mailer) supports 
it, but it doesn't look like it's offered, whether supported by the 
software or not. I would think that this would be a valuable addition. On 
the other hand, I doubt that many people will be aware of this option if 
it was offered.

Kai

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Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com
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Re: Unsubscribing

Posted by Ron McKeating <R....@lboro.ac.uk>.
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 09:49 +0000, Duane Hill wrote:
> On Friday, July 15, 2005 at 9:45:17 AM, R.J.Mckeating@lboro.ac.uk confabulated:
> 
> > I am shortly to go on hols for 2 weeks and so was planning to
> > unsubscribe until I get back. I notice on the web page at
> > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists
> 
> > it tells you how to subscribe
> 
> And in the headers of all messages to the list state this:
> 
> list-help: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>
> list-unsubscribe: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>
> List-Post: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>
> 

Doh! shows how often I use the "show full headers" option in Evolution.
OK going to unsubscribe now and be back in 2 weeks. Is my suggestion of
having a "don't send me any traffic for x weeks" option viable ?

Cheers all

Ron


> > Subscription: send mail to users-subscribe -at- spamassassin.apache.org
> 
> > but does not tell you how to unsubscribe, I would like to suggest that
> > unsubscribe details be added to the page. I also notice that I seem to
> > be subscribed to two spamassassin lists, not sure how that happened,
> > probably user stupidity knowing me. Is there information somewhere else
> > that tells people how to unsubscribe from the list. Or what would be
> > better would be a "don't send me any list traffic for 2 weeks" kind of
> > option.
> 
> > Well I shall be thinking of you all fighting the good fight as I lay on
> > the beach sipping brandy sours. Keep up the good work, never give a
> > spammer and even break I say.
> 
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>              | E-mail Administrator - duane@yournetplus.com
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> 
-- 
Ron McKeating
Senior IT Services Specialist
Computing Services
Loughborough University
01509 222329


Re: Unsubscribing

Posted by Duane Hill <du...@yournetplus.com>.
On Friday, July 15, 2005 at 9:45:17 AM, R.J.Mckeating@lboro.ac.uk confabulated:

> I am shortly to go on hols for 2 weeks and so was planning to
> unsubscribe until I get back. I notice on the web page at
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/MailingLists

> it tells you how to subscribe

And in the headers of all messages to the list state this:

list-help: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>
list-unsubscribe: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>
List-Post: <ma...@spamassassin.apache.org>

> Subscription: send mail to users-subscribe -at- spamassassin.apache.org

> but does not tell you how to unsubscribe, I would like to suggest that
> unsubscribe details be added to the page. I also notice that I seem to
> be subscribed to two spamassassin lists, not sure how that happened,
> probably user stupidity knowing me. Is there information somewhere else
> that tells people how to unsubscribe from the list. Or what would be
> better would be a "don't send me any list traffic for 2 weeks" kind of
> option.

> Well I shall be thinking of you all fighting the good fight as I lay on
> the beach sipping brandy sours. Keep up the good work, never give a
> spammer and even break I say.

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