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[jira] Created: (TAPESTRY-2277) Removing Label body should be parameterizable

Removing Label body should be parameterizable
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                 Key: TAPESTRY-2277
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277
             Project: Tapestry
          Issue Type: Improvement
          Components: tapestry-core
    Affects Versions: 5.0.11
            Reporter: Sven Homburg
             Fix For: 5.0.12


think that was not a good idea for the (html)-designer purpose.
let me know if im think wrong, but nearly every designer is working
with WYSIWYG tools and insert the label text between the label tag.

it s realy hard to explain the designer:
"dont forget to remove your label value after you finish your work"

i think its more felxible, if we can parameterize this behavior.

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[jira] Assigned: (TAPESTRY-2277) Removing Label body should be parameterizable

Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship (JIRA)" <de...@tapestry.apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Howard M. Lewis Ship reassigned TAPESTRY-2277:
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    Assignee: Howard M. Lewis Ship

> Removing Label body should be parameterizable
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TAPESTRY-2277
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277
>             Project: Tapestry
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: tapestry-core
>    Affects Versions: 5.0.11
>            Reporter: Sven Homburg
>            Assignee: Howard M. Lewis Ship
>             Fix For: 5.1
>
>
> think that was not a good idea for the (html)-designer purpose.
> let me know if im think wrong, but nearly every designer is working
> with WYSIWYG tools and insert the label text between the label tag.
> it s realy hard to explain the designer:
> "dont forget to remove your label value after you finish your work"
> i think its more felxible, if we can parameterize this behavior.

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[jira] Updated: (TAPESTRY-2277) Removing Label body should be parameterizable

Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship (JIRA)" <de...@tapestry.apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Howard M. Lewis Ship updated TAPESTRY-2277:
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    Fix Version/s:     (was: 5.0.12)
                   5.1

It is a question: who is Tapestry supposed to serve?  The graphic designer or the Java developer?  I lean toward the latter.

I think the implementation of this would be to have an ignorebody parameter.

> Removing Label body should be parameterizable
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TAPESTRY-2277
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277
>             Project: Tapestry
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: tapestry-core
>    Affects Versions: 5.0.11
>            Reporter: Sven Homburg
>             Fix For: 5.1
>
>
> think that was not a good idea for the (html)-designer purpose.
> let me know if im think wrong, but nearly every designer is working
> with WYSIWYG tools and insert the label text between the label tag.
> it s realy hard to explain the designer:
> "dont forget to remove your label value after you finish your work"
> i think its more felxible, if we can parameterize this behavior.

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[jira] Commented: (TAPESTRY-2277) Removing Label body should be parameterizable

Posted by "Kevin C. Dorff (JIRA)" <de...@tapestry.apache.org>.
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Kevin C. Dorff commented on TAPESTRY-2277:
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I think the goal of Tapestry is to serve BOTH the Graphic Designer AND the Java Developer and I don't see a need to compromise in this case.

Tapestry has, to my understanding, had a long history of enabling you to write HTML (templates) that could be viewed and edited in a tool like Dreamweaver. Writing

   <t:label for="username"/>

so where you want the label to appear is far less preferable to

   <t:label for="username">Username</t:label>

So when I view the template, I have a good idea what is going on. I would certainly vote for an option that allows both camps to be happy with the "ignorebody" flag, or something along those lines, BUT, IMO, for the path to easiest to understand, make it default to displaying the correct label when you have a body (ignorebody defaults to true). It really threw me for a loop in 5.0.11 (my first 5.0 version) when I had the version with a body and it always displayed the body (until I removed the body). I figured it was a big until I found this "Issue".

> Removing Label body should be parameterizable
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TAPESTRY-2277
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277
>             Project: Tapestry
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: tapestry-core
>    Affects Versions: 5.0.11
>            Reporter: Sven Homburg
>             Fix For: 5.1
>
>
> think that was not a good idea for the (html)-designer purpose.
> let me know if im think wrong, but nearly every designer is working
> with WYSIWYG tools and insert the label text between the label tag.
> it s realy hard to explain the designer:
> "dont forget to remove your label value after you finish your work"
> i think its more felxible, if we can parameterize this behavior.

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[jira] Closed: (TAPESTRY-2277) Removing Label body should be parameterizable

Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship (JIRA)" <de...@tapestry.apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Howard M. Lewis Ship closed TAPESTRY-2277.
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       Resolution: Fixed
    Fix Version/s:     (was: 5.1)
                   5.0.15

> Removing Label body should be parameterizable
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: TAPESTRY-2277
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAPESTRY-2277
>             Project: Tapestry
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: tapestry-core
>    Affects Versions: 5.0.11
>            Reporter: Sven Homburg
>            Assignee: Howard M. Lewis Ship
>             Fix For: 5.0.15
>
>
> think that was not a good idea for the (html)-designer purpose.
> let me know if im think wrong, but nearly every designer is working
> with WYSIWYG tools and insert the label text between the label tag.
> it s realy hard to explain the designer:
> "dont forget to remove your label value after you finish your work"
> i think its more felxible, if we can parameterize this behavior.

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